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Obama's DOJ Attacks Homeschoolers
Set Our Children Free ^ | 3/4/13 | Tony Caruso

Posted on 03/04/2013 12:16:33 PM PST by Guido2012

News Item: Department of Justice says homeschooling is not a fundamental right.

Excuse me? Is this legal arm of our United States Government really taking the position that we don’t have the right to determine how we educate our own children? When it is the legal position of our federal government that parents have no fundamental right to educate their own children, then it is up to the people to rise up and put government back in its place.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: education; freedom; homeschool; homeschooling; justice; religion
News Item: Department of Justice says homeschooling is not a fundamental right.

Excuse me? Is this legal arm of our United States Government really taking the position that we don’t have the right to determine how we educate our own children? Fundamental rights are those that we get as a result of being alive – you know, like life and liberty – and are bestowed by God, not government. If ever there was a fundamental right, it is the right to raise our children the way we want without interference from government, absent abuse of course. That right was not given to us by government, and it cannot be taken away by government. We are a self-governing nation, i.e. the ultimate power in our Republic rests with the people. When it is the legal position of our federal government that parents have no fundamental right to educate their own children, then it is up to the people to rise up and put government back in its place. To do any less, is to assure future tyranny. Anyone who has attended school knows that if you don’t deal with a bully at the first incident, they will grow bolder and meaner and make your life even more miserable. James Madison said as much when he opined, “It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties.” We are way past the first “experiment” and are almost at the point of no return when it comes to our fundamental rights. We, the people, have allowed this to happen due to our ignorance and complacency about what it takes to preserve freedom.

That brings us back to the news item. What prompted this news flash was the political asylum case of a German family that fled to the United States because they were prohibited, like most families in that country, to home school their children. They were initially granted political asylum. But then our own government appealed the decision based primarily on the notion that this family was not denied any fundamental right, and therefore did not deserve political asylum. If they are forced to return to Germany, they face fines, jail, and loss of custody of their children. This, despite Germany having signed human rights treaties that guarantee parents the right to educate their children apart from government schools. Apparently, this nation is reverting to the World War II Nazi view that children belong first to the state before they belong to their parents. Hitler outlawed homeschooling in 1938.

In America, however, there should be no excuse for any government agency to act this way, nor take the position that the government has priority over parents when it comes to their children. Yet, in arguing this case before the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, that is exactly the position our government has taken. This flies in the face of decades of American jurisprudence saying otherwise. This should be no surprise to followers of the Obama administration, as they are Marxist in philosophy to the core. In their view, the state is God, no matter what the Constitution says. This is a lawless administration and they do what they want, and defy anyone to stop them. Some states aren’t much better, as there have been numerous instances where they’ve have abused and persecuted home school parents as if the state did in fact own the children. With the federal government now formally taking this same position, the abuse of homeschoolers is likely to get worse unless the government is put in its place.

The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child was one attempt to circumvent parental rights that is still looming out there like the proverbial 800 pound gorilla. This treaty was signed by Bill Clinton, but has never been ratified by the Senate, although it keeps coming up for a vote every few years. Obama has called our failure to ratify this treaty “embarrassing” and promised to revisit it. It has been opposed by every conservative family organization, and supported by those who view the government as the ultimate authority. That should tell you everything you need to know about it. It will effectively end parental rights to raise our children as we see fit in every area of their life, not just education. All it would take is 67 Senate votes to ratify this evil treaty and our fundamental right to raise our children as we desire would be gone. So with the United Nations, and now the federal government arrayed against American families, we have the fight of our lives ahead of us. It is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

1 posted on 03/04/2013 12:16:38 PM PST by Guido2012
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To: Guido2012

Combine this with the bogus “separation of church and state” and you see where they are going.


2 posted on 03/04/2013 12:20:35 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Guido2012

It’s all about control and indoctrination. Can’t have any “threats” to their system, don’t cha know.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 12:21:58 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Guido2012

Yet we allow millions of illegals who just go on welfare. We bring in Somalis who beat up random people. It’d be nice to have a decent government.


4 posted on 03/04/2013 12:22:20 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Guido2012

these are the states children, you are the nominal custodian

that is the attitude


5 posted on 03/04/2013 12:23:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Guido2012

But did the DOJ really make this ruling? I could believe it, I’d just like a more reputatble source....before I get all exercised about it.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 12:25:55 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Guido2012

It’s interesting that you can find only your own material worth posting here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:guido2012/index?tab=articles

I suppose also that your excerpting of your own material results in blog hits for you.

Doesn’t this make it seem like you are using FR to get some hits for your blog?


7 posted on 03/04/2013 12:31:13 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You won’t see it on the mainstream media because they cover for Obama, but it’s public record. See below:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/obamas-doj-targets-religious-freedom-again/


8 posted on 03/04/2013 12:33:53 PM PST by Guido2012
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To: I Drive Too Fast

One must not think. That is detrimental to a stable system. Creative, knowledgeable people are always a threat to the power mongers.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 12:38:43 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: GeronL
these are the states children, you are the nominal custodian

That goes for our money as well.

10 posted on 03/04/2013 12:40:16 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I found the following article about the case at The Washington Times website.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2013/feb/12/deportation-german-homeschool-family-affects-us-ho/


11 posted on 03/04/2013 12:41:49 PM PST by IdratherbeatPemberley
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To: Guido2012

bkmk


12 posted on 03/04/2013 12:53:56 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: fwdude

bump


13 posted on 03/04/2013 1:07:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Guido2012

“liberalism” is about taking away choices. It was only a matter of time until they set their sights on this. What’s next?

Their end goal is to control every aspect of life in detail. Maybe that’s why they love that middle eastern death cult so much, since its book dictates every aspect of live in detail.


14 posted on 03/04/2013 1:14:41 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: humblegunner
I suppose also that your excerpting of your own material results in blog hits for you.
I like this man's blog; why do you give bloggers such a hard time? My own husband is a "crackpot blogger," the most revered of all... :)
15 posted on 03/04/2013 1:19:34 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

“why do you give bloggers such a hard time?”

It’s a case-by-case criticism.

This particular fellow has been politely questioned due
to his history of posting his own material as an excerpt.

ONLY his own material. Does this suggest nothing to you?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:guido2012/index?tab=articles


16 posted on 03/04/2013 1:25:07 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
This particular fellow has been politely questioned due to his history of posting his own material as an excerpt.
I noticed in his first commentary, the full post is published. Does that not suffice?
17 posted on 03/04/2013 1:35:28 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
I noticed in his first commentary, the full post is published.

What is this, then?

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18 posted on 03/04/2013 1:40:26 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Guido2012

Well Guido,

If you do have a blog, maybe you should pimp this info for everyone to learn.


Because Title 28 contains statutes which govern all federal courts,
the consistent use of “United States” to refer to the federal
government carries enormous weight. Title 28 is the latest word
on this subject, as revised, codified and enacted into positive law
on June 25, 1948. Moreover, the Supremacy Clause elevates
Title 28 to the status of supreme Law of the Land.

To make matters worse and to propagate more confusion,
the entity “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”
incorporated twice in the State of Delaware:

The main problem that arises from these questions is that
United States Attorneys are now filing lawsuits and
prosecuting criminal INDICTMENTS in the name of the
“UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” [sic]
but without any powers of attorney to do so. Compare
28 U.S.C. 547 (which confers powers of attorney to represent
the “United States” and its agencies in federal courts):

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/547.html

They are NOT “United States of America Attorneys”, OK?

First of all, they do NOT have any powers of attorney
to represent Delaware corporations in federal courts;
Congress never appropriated funds for them to do so
and Congress never conferred any powers of attorney
on them to do so either.

Secondly, the 50 States are already adequately represented
by their respective State Attorneys General; therefore,
U.S. Attorneys have no powers of attorney to represent
any of the 50 States of the Union, or any of their agencies,
either.

They are “U.S. Attorneys” NOT “U.S.A. Attorneys”, OK?

Accordingly, it is willful misrepresentation for any U.S. Attorney
to attempt to appear in any State or federal court on behalf
of the “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” [sic]. And,
such misrepresentation is actionable under the McDade Act
at 28 U.S.C. 530B:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/530B.html


19 posted on 03/04/2013 1:47:38 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: circlecity
Department of Justice says homeschooling is not a fundamental right.

The DoJ has no jurisdiction on education. IOW, it has no "standing" to decide anything about education. It shouldn't even be allowed to voice an opinion on it, except in conjunction with a lawsuit.

I see nowhere in the Constitution where the People cede the "right" of education to the government, and even if we did/had it should be up to each state and not the federal government. But of course, Zero needs to expand his dictatorial court of jesters.

20 posted on 03/04/2013 2:02:49 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Guido2012

The US Supreme Court settled this in 1926 — Pierce vs Society of Sisters. The court wrote that “the child is not the mere creature of the state.”

This current Clown-in-Chief and the rest of his circus think that a child has no right to a mother. What’s that supposed to mean?

Holder should just shut his ignorant mouth and crawl under a rock.


21 posted on 03/04/2013 2:43:17 PM PST by goldi
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Parents better take responsibility for their own kids unless they want them indoctrinated by the Obamanation. I wish we’d homeschooled our son (47 now); but husband’s family was too wedged into the “education system” for us to ever be able to break free. - He was the perfect little liberal for a long time. Now, at least he’s intellectually honest enough to see the blatant truth about Obama, Pelosi and Reid.


22 posted on 03/04/2013 3:01:28 PM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://www.christianpost.com/news/german-homeschoolers-appeal-decision-on-asylum-in-us-court-90840/

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2013/02/disputed-asylum-for-german-homeschoolers-heads-to-sixth-circuit.html


23 posted on 03/04/2013 5:51:42 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Guido2012

Timely discussion indeed. Mrs. jimfree and I tomorrow are visiting faculty for my daughter’s home school group. Ann will be doing a Federal period history presentation and I will be follow her leading some period appropriate dances. This evening we baked some ginger nuts and shrewsbury cakes to serve after the dancing(instead of the standard lemon zest Ann flavored the s cakes with rosewater.)

Lisa schools 3 of hers with the fourth to begin K in a couple years. I am very proud of my little girl.


24 posted on 03/04/2013 7:51:50 PM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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