Posted on 02/04/2013 6:54:55 AM PST by Alex Murphy
When you speak of the Protestant "Irish," you must be referring to the Scots-Irish. The Irish of the Northern states, particularly the Northeast, like the Kennedy clan, are immigrants from Ireland, and are, of course, Catholic.
The Scots-Irish from Ulster, or Northern Ireland, a very different story. Protestants to the man, making up a large part of the south, Bible belt Protestants.
the Italians and Greeks, all Catholic
Wouldn't the the Greeks be Greek Orthodox?
There are TWO major waves of Irish immigration. The first is in the Colonial period ~ and the second is from the 1830s to the 1860s.
During the colonial period the Irish who arrived in America had no friendly Catholic church to greet them. Instead they had Scandinavian Lutherans, English churches (Anglican and Puritan, etc.) and the Scotts ~ who were something, or nothing, but fur shur were not Catholic.
Not that the English had banned Catholics from America, but the original Treaty of London (1604) put the core area(Virginia) off limit to Catholics. That was on the orders of the King of Spain who was doing a cramdown on his enemies and his friends!
As a consequence there were no religious in the area and without them you don't even get an underground Catholic church movement ~ what you get are Protestants, and that's where the majority of America's Irish descend from ~ that first wave of immigrants back in the colonial period.
They got two out of four right.
The study found that while 25 percent of Catholics
I'm one of them.
On a roll here?
The Pope, who claims primacy over all Catholic bishops, recognizes the baptism of many Protestant bodies ~ my own included ~ and we recognize his as well and boy was there a fight over that one!
Now, regarding the Kennedy's, there are probably more Kennedys whose lineage dates from the Colonial period than from the Famine period. They were here longer, bred frequently, had enormous families, and spread out all over the country. The Murphys are even more numerous and have, to their credit THREE GREAT AMERICAN HEROES ~ Timothy Murphy, the most renowned enlisted man in the American Army in the Revolution, and Audie Murphy, the most decorated soldier in the Armed forces of the United States in WWII. More recently another Murphy was awarded the Medal of Honor.
I know the first two are Protestant ~ this latest guy may be Catholic. But they're all Murphy, and that's what counts!
In modern America even the Catholics are in common agreement with the Huguenots regarding firearms ~ don’t leave home without one!
I wasn’t aware of the different waves of Irish coming to this country. Good info. Nor “Greek Catholics,” I would have assumed they would be more ethic than that. Thanks.
You'll get no answer if you don't ping me to the question.
I know the first two are Protestant ~ this latest guy may be Catholic. But they're all Murphy, and that's what counts!
Huzzah!
Russians/Greeks/etc. are Catholics in the sense of the Orthodox Church being officially "the Orthodox Catholic Church," but Eastern Orthodoxy is a separate church and religion from the Catholic Church in Rome. There are Vatican-affiliated Catholic churches among these Orthodox peoples but they are in the minority and traditionally disliked by their Orthodox neighbors for being "uniates."
How can someone who knows so much about Lapland and Santa Claus not know this?
BTW, Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism are NOT different religions! Islam is a different religion, but they are the same religion. The disputes are ecclesiastical.
You just have to give me your Kimber.
Regarding "Lapland", that's a European invention. It's more properly 'the sapma or sapmai' ~ virtually all the original peoples of the Sapma are, in fact, Lutherans or Russian Orthodox ~ in name. It gets very complex after stating that so we'll leave it at that.
Rebellion and independent thinking go deepest in Protestant multi-generational Americans. We reject the doctrine of Papal Infallibility and of Kings. Acceptance of Papal infallibility is only a step away from acceptance of human perfection and authority.
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