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Sweeping new abortion bill in New York: “It defies common sense”
Patheos ^ | 1/15/2013 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 01/15/2013 5:20:36 PM PST by wonkowasright

Last week, Cardinal Timothy Dolan raised his objections to proposed abortion legislation in New York. Now the state Catholic Conference has issued a point-by-point memo that makes clear how extreme Governor Andrew Cuomo’s proposal really is. The memo below comes from the conference website.

(Excerpt) Read more at patheos.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; newyork
They are moving to create the right to late term abortion on demand and while an individual exclusion for conscience exists none exists for organizations.

Only state and religious hospitals ok with hacking babies to bits will remain if this goes through.

1 posted on 01/15/2013 5:20:49 PM PST by wonkowasright
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To: wonkowasright

This was within hours of his tearful speech about rushing new gun regulations through to protect children.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 5:26:34 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: wonkowasright

Hopefully Cardinal Dolan can successfully marshal enough people to stop this, but I doubt it.

New York is a completely lost cause, and Catholic voters in NY support Democrats anyway. If Cuomo is the Democrats next Presidential candidate, you can bet approximately 50%+ of Catholics will vote for him. Maybe the Catholic Church leadership will finally realize that the secular left (Democrats in this country) are their enemy, and begin a sustained campaign to get their flock to vote conservative. I won’t hold my breath for that to happen though.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 5:26:48 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: wonkowasright
I guess I should have gone to this site as thats the original memo source......

http://www.nyscatholic.org/category/billmemos/
4 posted on 01/15/2013 5:26:48 PM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright

bookmark


5 posted on 01/15/2013 5:26:48 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: wonkowasright

Can I get an individual exclusion for conscience sake to Obamakare? On Medicare; he has been taking money out of Medicare to put it onto Obamakare, which includes abortion. - I fear God more than the government.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 5:38:51 PM PST by Twinkie (The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein. Ps. 24:1)
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To: wonkowasright

the dnc/socialist position:

We will protect our kids if mom doesn’t abort them first. because we care about our kids, but only if we want them.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 5:43:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: wonkowasright
New York State Catholic Conference 465 State Street • Albany, New York 12203¬1004 • Tel. (518) 434¬6195 • Fax. (518) 434¬9796 www.nyscatholic.org • info@nyscatholic.org RICHARD E. BARNES Executive Director

January 9, 2013 Governor Andrew M. Cuomo Executive Chamber State Capitol Albany, NY 12224

Dear Governor Cuomo:

Congratulations on your third State of the State message earlier today. There is much to cheer in your report, and my brother bishops and I look forward to working with you to advance much of this agenda. In particular, we share your absolute horror at the many incidents of gun violence that have had such a terrible impact on our society, none more so than the unspeakable massacre of 26 innocent children and women at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14. We commit ourselves to working with you to address this urgent problem as you look toward meaningful reforms of our gun laws, improvements in care for the mentally ill, and safer schools.

Allow me also to single out for praise your continued interest in reforming and improving our state’s health care system, as well as your support for a long-overdue increase in the state’s minimum wage. I am hopeful that real progress can be made in these and other areas that enhance the lives of those who are living below or near the poverty level in our state. Yes, there is much to praise. However, I would be remiss if I did not renew my great disappointment regarding your continued support for the radical Reproductive Health Act. I know that you appreciate the fact that millions of New Yorkers of all faiths, or none at all, share a deep respect for all human life from conception to natural death. I also know that you are aware that New York State’s abortion rate is, incredibly, double the national average. Sadly, nearly 4 in 10 pregnancies statewide end in abortion. In some parts of New York City, the rate is higher than 60 percent, mostly in the impoverished Black and Latino communities.

As we have discussed in the past, we obviously disagree on the question of the legality of abortion, but surely we are in equally strong agreement that the abortion rate in New York is tragically high. There was a time when abortion supporters claimed they wanted to make abortion “safe, legal, and rare.” Yet this measure is specifically designed to expand access to abortion, and therefore to increase the abortion rate. I am hard pressed to think of a piece of legislation that is less needed or more harmful than this one. Archdiocese of New York • Dioceses of Albany / Brooklyn / Buffalo / Ogdensburg / Rochester / Rockville Centre / Syracuse

8 posted on 01/15/2013 5:47:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: wonkowasright

Is Cuomo the real antiChrist? Or co-antiChrist with the Kenyan?


9 posted on 01/15/2013 5:56:48 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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Apparently America’s enemies have decided that this is the time to go all in. We are facing a sudden and shocking level of disregard for human decency, well beyond the mild to moderate violations of the Bill of Rights that we had grown accustomed to. My first instinct is to hope and pray that the left will pull back from their extremism, but I wonder whether it might be better for America to have this out now, even if Obama and his minions push it far enough to trigger another civil war. If that disaster is inevitable, we may be better off facing it now than suffering slowly and then still defending ourselves in a civil war.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 6:00:12 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: Jeff Chandler

Pretty weak letter.

Not a single word about excommunication...


11 posted on 01/15/2013 6:05:22 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Pollster1

If they turn up the heat too fast, the frog might jump out of the water before it boils.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 6:06:20 PM PST by Boogieman
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OBAMA: IF WE CAN SAVE ONE CHILD ‘WE SHOULD TAKE THAT STEP’

Referring to gun control instead of abortion on demand


13 posted on 01/15/2013 6:10:54 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Baynative

I thought the same thing. As I was watching Cujo go insane on guns I thought, “but let’s kill the unborn at will”.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 6:18:39 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and start over.)
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To: castlebrew
Pretty weak letter.

Pretty weak shepherds.


Disarming the innocent.

Socialized medicine.

Crushing job creators.


P.S.: Oh, about the baby killing. I kinda wish you wouldn't do that. But as for the rest of your leftist agenda, it's all good.

15 posted on 01/15/2013 6:20:06 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Baynative

Up is down, down is up. The oppressing left WILL not see the hypocrisy, and it’s not that they CAN’T. They are of Satan and can do no good.


16 posted on 01/15/2013 6:44:25 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Dagger John” Hughes would have written something with a different tone.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 6:45:07 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Pollster1

Civil war is coming, I have been predicting this.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 3:53:27 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I predict a second American civil war, MARK MY WORDS.


20 posted on 01/16/2013 3:55:09 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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