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To: BillyBoy

bill, you might be told that Francis of Assisi (1181-1226) was more of a charismatic pentecostal which is why the Catholics gave him such a hard time at first. And that if he prayed a bit more, he would have become the first Baptist.


21 posted on 12/29/2012 10:33:37 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigned for local conservatives only)
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>> you might be told that Francis of Assisi (1181-1226) was more of a charismatic pentecostal which is why the Catholics gave him such a hard time at first. And that if he prayed a bit more, he would have become the first Baptist. <<

1) Well, which it is? Charismatic Pentecostal or Baptist? Those are two very different Christian traditions. Charismatic/Pentecostal was formally organized around the early 1960s, and Baptists around 1609. If it's the former, that wouldn't be an issue, since the charismatic movement overlaps Christian denominations and is accepted within Catholicism. That St. Francis of Assini might have been a charismatic before they were formally organized didn't make him any less of a Catholic.

2) Bringing up one person doesn't address the poster's original comments, that "Catholicism" ITSELF (the faith a whole, rather than say, for example "Catholic leaders are not the way to salvation") is not the way to God the Father or Jesus. If we go by her premise, then NOBODY on earth had the "way to Jesus" until Protestants (which according to her, are the ONLY "Christians") show up in the 1600s. True, there non-Catholics around before the 1600s, such as Orthodox Christians, but presumably they "don't know Jesus" either, since they hold same beliefs that cause her to reject Catholicism.

46 posted on 12/29/2012 6:05:38 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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