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To: marshmallow
>> Archbishop of Canterbury Says Anglican Church Wounded, Not Dead <<

I dunno. Looks pretty dead to me. I have a hard time finding a proud, devout, practicing Anglican.

>> Christianity was still relevant in Britain despite falling numbers of believers. Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, who leads the global 80-million-strong Anglican Communion, said in his Christmas day sermon that the answer to the question of whether Christianity had "had its day" was a "resounding no". <<

Christianity is still relevant in England, Anglicanism isn't. You can designate yourself the "official church" all you want, it won't change the fact nobody attends your services.

>> The Church of England narrowly voted against allowing women bishops last month - to the dismay of Williams and Prime Minister David Cameron - in a move its leaders said risked undermining its role as the established church in society with clerics in parliament's upper chamber. <<

Underminded it's role in parliament? GOOD. The idea that a "free country" would give some totally discredited "church" seats in Parliament SOLELY because it's guaranteed such clout in the Constitution is appalling. Though I don't see all the liberals screaming about "separation of church and state!!" ever criticize England for having an ACTUAL theocracy (or Muslim countries for that matter). Yet they go ballistic when church officials that DON'T have constitutionally enshrined government offices speak their minds about political issues. Go figure.

>> The media, many politicians and some members of the public have criticized the Church of England for failing to allow women bishops and for failing to back government plans for gay marriage at a time when it is under pressure to modernize. <<

Again, where's the "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!" crowd? Oh that's right, it's OK to have churches get involved in "government affairs" if it helps advance a liberal cause, right?

>> In separate comments aired on Tuesday but recorded earlier, the Roman Catholic Church's leader in England and Wales, Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Nichols, said the government's plans to allow gay marriage were a "shambles" and had no mandate. <<

Nah, can't be. Protestants on FR keep telling me that Catholic officials are sooooo much more liberal than protestant churches. Certainly news to Christians in Europe, though.

>> No religious organization or cleric will be forced to conduct gay weddings under the plans <<

Hmmm. Sounds familiar...

"Removing immigration quotas will not flood western countries with third world immigrants"

"Legalizing abortion won't result in abortion on demand or forcing people morally against it to pay for one"

"Income taxes will ONLY affect the richest citizens and extremely affaluent corporate CEOs, most people will never have to pay income taxes in their life"

22 posted on 12/25/2012 8:58:56 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
Again, where's the "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!" crowd? Oh that's right, it's OK to have churches get involved in "government affairs" if it helps advance a liberal cause, right?

Of course the Church of England has always been an arm of the state, ever since it was forcibly severed from Rome. It has just taken this long for the state to become overtly and aggressively apostate, and of course, now it demands acquiescence in that apostasy from the C of E.

24 posted on 12/25/2012 9:14:42 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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