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In India, All Religions Join In 'The Big Day' (Christmas)
npr.org ^ | December 25, 2012 4:00 AM | July McCarthy

Posted on 12/25/2012 2:53:08 PM PST by entropy12

India, the birthplace of Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism, marks the birth of Jesus with a national holiday.

Indians call Christmas bara din, or the Big Day.

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christians; india
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To: Cronos; RobbyS; entropy12

Sorry Cronos, The mythologies you quote from comes from lesser important texts not the Bhagat Gita, or the Shatras or the Puranas. If you talk about Christianity you would most probably be quoting from King James Bible not some obscure mythological text relating to Christianity. Same with Hinduism.

The Purushasukta of Rig Veda talks about the Varnas or Castes being various organs of a human body like a society. All parts are equally important regardless of their position. It is not a hierarchy or a pecking order. Its not a prescription for something.

And is THE ONLY mention about “Caste” in all of the Vedas and according to some scholars its a more recent insertions.

So yes “caste system” has got nothing to do with Hinduism.


41 posted on 12/27/2012 2:31:45 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos; RobbyS; entropy12

...Other then that you are simply muddying the water with obscure mythologies, legends, bogus history and crackhead theories.


42 posted on 12/27/2012 2:39:30 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: entropy12

well, I think hindu mobs have attacked Moslems without a provokation at that time — but can you blame them considering the history?


43 posted on 12/27/2012 2:46:16 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: ravager

There is a distinction and the Hindu holy man was killed by communists. The communists acknowledged this later, after the reverse violence


44 posted on 12/27/2012 2:47:07 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: entropy12; Cronos; RobbyS; Houghton M.
“Christian missionaries arrived in 1st century and were successful in converting millions of Hindu’s to Christianity because it was mostly a peaceful process.”

I wouldn't say it was all very peaceful process. The Portuguese in Goa weren't very “peaceful”. And just imagine..... early Christians were persecuted out of their own land and yet in India where they took refuge they not only practiced their faith but also converted the locals. That takes lot of balls. You think American Christians would allow Hindu refugees to settle on their land and also let them be converted to Hinduism? In today's day and age? Hindus were too peaceful.

45 posted on 12/27/2012 2:52:33 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager; RobbyS; entropy12
"obscure mythological text" -- do you consider the Bhagavad Gita and the Manusmriti to be obscure? The Gita states that the varnas are created by Brahma

And the Manusmriti clearly states the difference between the twice-born and the Shudras

The caste system is part of Hinduism. However, as I said above, Hinduism is not a permanently defined religion but a free-flowing meta-religion and for Hinduism to junk the caste-system may change it, but will not end Hinduism

46 posted on 12/27/2012 2:54:41 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: ravager; RobbyS; entropy12

Unless you, ravager know the co-relation between Ahuras and Daevas in the Avestan and Asuras and Devas in the Vedas, don’t make nonsensical comments.


47 posted on 12/27/2012 2:55:54 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos; entropy12

Are you talking about Gujarat? There again Muslims started first with the train burning. Nice try. You still lose.


48 posted on 12/27/2012 2:57:42 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos

I am read about all of those “co-relations”. They are simply theories. Seems like you have a hard time distinguishing theories from facts.


49 posted on 12/27/2012 3:02:39 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos
The actual quote from Bhagwad Gita is....

“The four-fold order was created by Me according to the divisions of quality and work. Though I am its creator, know Me to be incapable of action or change.”

It talks about varnas based on guna (aptitude) and karma (action) not birth or heredity.

Again Bhagwad Gita has no reference Brahma's head or feet or @ss from where shudras came from.

50 posted on 12/27/2012 3:38:22 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos
Now Manusmriti is the only place that talks about “caste system” they way we know it today. However it is neither Rig Veda not Bhagwad Gita. Manusmriti is a codification of laws and ethics of THAT time. It is the favorite of the Marxist historians who rule academia, because it contains six oppressive verses, which they love to quote to in criticism of Hinduism (by association with caste and oppression). It's a favorite book with which to beat up the Hindus.

It is a book that has been written (not by Manu) but by many different authors and has been added to over many hundreds perhaps thousands of years. Many parts of the book are confusing, contradictory and controversial even regarding castism.

Bottomline: Manusmriti not the final authority on Hinduism.

And even Manusmriti is not even half as oppressive as some passages in the Old Testament.

51 posted on 12/27/2012 3:39:42 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos; entropy12
I was expecting you would be hitting me with the Manusmriti anytime soon. After all it the favorite book of Zakir Naik, Romila Thapar, Arundhati Roy.....how could you miss it?

Muslims, Marxists and Christians all unite with this one unimportant book with which they can beat up the Hindus.

52 posted on 12/27/2012 4:00:17 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager; entropy12

Manusmriti is unimportant? Go talk to the RSS and see how important it is for them.


53 posted on 12/27/2012 11:38:38 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

So now RSS goons are authority on Hinduism?


54 posted on 12/27/2012 11:56:42 PM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager; Cronos

Manusmruti is hardly UNimportant for the Hindu’s. Even the British did extensive studies of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manusm%E1%B9%9Bti


55 posted on 12/28/2012 12:05:09 AM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12; ravager

thanks entropy. Ravager evidently didn’t read my other statement that though the Manusmriti is important and the caste system is right now integral to Hinduism, removing it does not “kill” Hinduism, due to Hinduism’s fluid nature as a meta-religion.


56 posted on 12/28/2012 12:08:01 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: entropy12; Cronos

It’s important because a bunch of Rosbif munchin’ Limeys did “extensive” study of it?


57 posted on 12/28/2012 12:14:37 AM PST by ravager (I)
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To: Cronos

I did read. Just couldn’t handle all that deep mumbo jumbo intellectual BS in one day.


58 posted on 12/28/2012 12:17:02 AM PST by ravager (I)
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To: ravager

well,if you can’t handle intellectual conversations, sad for you.


59 posted on 12/28/2012 2:53:27 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

I know! Right? You get so creative with freshly concocted BS, it’s hard to keep up.

So how is your rosbeef cooking today?


60 posted on 12/28/2012 8:35:11 AM PST by ravager (I)
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