Skip to comments.Anti-Israel Protestants: more Bible study needed
Posted on 11/19/2012 11:57:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The state of Israel is an illegal, genocidal place to equate Judaism with the state of Israel is to equate Christianity with Flavor Flav. UCC Pastor Emeritus Jeremiah Wright, in a speech to thousands of people in Baltimore in 2011
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11
Much has been made in the Jewish community too much, in my humble opinion of the recent letter signed by 15 Protestant church leaders calling for Congress to review and possibly suspend U.S. aid to Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East. The signatories believe that unconditional U.S. military assistance to Israel has contributed to this deterioration, sustaining the conflict and undermining the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians. To add insult to injury, the letter was released with no notice on a Jewish holiday, just days before a scheduled interfaith meeting between Protestant and Jewish leaders. Predictably, Jewish leaders angrily withdrew from the meeting and denounced the letter. It is hard to see how this troubled dialogue can be resurrected in the near future.
A letter like this doesnt come out of a vacuum. The offending churches -- Presbyterian Church (USA), Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, United Methodist Church, National Council of Churches USA and the United Church of Christ (UCC) are all mainline Protestant bodies. In a recent Pew survey, white mainline Protestants knew less about Christianity and the Bible than Mormons, white Evangelicals, white Catholics, black Protestants, Jews and atheists...
(Excerpt) Read more at jewishjournal.com ...
untied methodists. figures.
and the irony, this article written by a Mormon — who STILL has more clue about the bible than these estimable old, but now creaky, mainlines that chase the do-good du jour but forget their roots.
of course a better answer than “dialogue” would be for all these mainlines to become baptist... i’m not holding my breath that it will happen!
There was a survey from about 2 or 3 years ago that didn’t hold up very well when looked at here at FR, tomorrow I will try to see if it is the one they are talking about.
This feeble attempt at cleverness rather shows that the right Dr. Wright could use a close encounter with logic. The truly discouraging thing about this report is that Jewish leaders would mistake this motley assembly for Christianity.
I’m old enough to remember when the Lutheran Church was somewhat conservative and Bible-based.
ELCA is not mainline.
Getting told by a guy who thinks Jesus and Satan are brothers that you need to study scripture more? Ouch. The sad thing is, he’s right.
Unless, of course you want no part of Jesus. That is easily arranged.
It sure is. The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, along with the PCUSA and the Episcipagans is as mainline, liberal and non-Christian as it gets.
Onward “Christian” Soldiers, Marching with the Marxists and Islamists.
These church leaders are actually haters of God and are gleeful at the ease with which they have succeeded in turning formerly faithful worshipers into social justice would-be tyrants, their minds poisoned by bitterness and sin.
Jesus is not gentle with such as these:
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth..." - John 8:44
Jeremiah Wright... Presbyterian Church (USA), Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, United Methodist Church, National Council of Churches USA and the United Church of Christ (UCC)...Before anyone runs off at the mouth about every last member of these sects -- oops, too late! -- remember that, aw never mind, such snarking people are just jackasses.
I was raised in the United Methodist Church- and I have fond memories of Sunday School- but, what a shame that as I have gotten older I have realized that they don’t know the Bible at all.
If they did, they would understand what Paul said about the progressive-newage “Christian” movement.
I was invited to a children’s meditation meeting , at our local United Methodist Church. It is centering prayer New Age stuff. They believe it is to help them “focus” on God more.
*sigh* teaching that stuff to kids. It really made me sad.
These churches are insisting that Jesus was a Palestinian.
They have another Jesus , a fictionally made up Arab one .
You took the word out of my mouth and committed it to posterity.
Sorry, but God’s people are the church, not the Jews. God still loves the Jews of course, but they are outside his revealed plan of salvation. Jesus and John the Baptist before him were quite plain spoken about the spiritual peril of Jews who trusted solely in their ancestry. You cannot reject God incarnate and remain his special people.
So look at actual scripture instead of off the cuff comments.
Compare Jeremiah 18, Northern Kingdom remade, to Jer. 19 esp. vs 11. Jerusalem shattered like a fired clay pot, never to be made whole again.
Compare Jer. 7:14 to Shilohs fate. Judah and Jerusalem told it would be made like Shiloh, which was completely abandoned as the place where god had set his name at first cp. 1 Sam 1:24, Ps 78:60 etc.
Read Mt 21-25
21:18-22 The fig tree (Jerusalem) cursed to NEVER produce fruit again. Mountain(Jerusalem) cast into sea(destroyed)
21:28-46 The kingdom taken from Jews given to a nation bringing forth fruits
22:1-14 Destroyed the Jew who were murderers of the prophets.
23 many woes and condemnation for the Jews.
23:36-39 Jerusalem to be left desolate
24 Jerusalem to be destroyed.
25:1-13 five foolish virgins(Jerusalem/Jews) shut out of the marriage feast
25:14-46 Wicked servant(Jews/Jerusalem) has everything taken from him and cast into outer darkness
for you to add to your lists...
note that while there is a PCUSA, there is a PCA and while there is a ELCA, there is an LCMS -- the PCA and LCMS folks won't support such a blatantly anti-Israel stance, yet I don't see them becoming Baptists either...