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Does Satan Believe He Can Defeat God?
vanity | 11-19-2012 | kjam22

Posted on 11/19/2012 5:43:55 PM PST by kjam22

Interesting discussion yesterday with a variety of opinions. Just curious what some here might believe and why...


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: evil; satan; vanity
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1 posted on 11/19/2012 5:43:59 PM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22

Hate doesn’t care if it wins.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 5:46:56 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: kjam22

I would say either he is appointed to tempt and skim off the dross or he very much believes so, as he works so hard.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 5:47:30 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: kjam22
Of course he does...otherwise he would admit defeat.

Satan (and his son Obama) are delusional. They will lose, but they don't see it...

4 posted on 11/19/2012 5:47:30 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Bill Clinton just signed Paula Broadwell to write his bio...and Jill Kelley as his social liaison.)
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To: kjam22
He knows he doesn’t stand a chance. He just wants to make as big of a mess as he can before lockdown time.
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

— Matthew 8:29

5 posted on 11/19/2012 5:47:40 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: kjam22
Does Satan Believe He Can Defeat God?

Seems like voter fraud could do it io this USSA right now!!!

6 posted on 11/19/2012 5:49:02 PM PST by IrishPennant (Dr Erkel and Mr. Jive...lurking the streets of DC)
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To: Olog-hai

So... based on the demons response here... do we think they know the future... or they have just read and accept God’s prophecy? Just curious...


7 posted on 11/19/2012 5:50:05 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: kjam22

He must. Especially since it is much easier to follow Satan than it is to follow the Lord. One may not even want to follow Satan, but do anyway.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 5:51:09 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: kjam22
Can Satan defeat God?

Prompts a thought.

If Satan exists, who created him?

9 posted on 11/19/2012 5:51:52 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: kjam22

Of course not. he just wants to take as many souls down with him that he possibly can. God loves us & it hurts Him when we turn from Him. The devil knows that.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 5:52:00 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: kjam22

He DID a couple weeks ago..


11 posted on 11/19/2012 5:52:47 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: kjam22

satan is doing a pretty good job of it.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 5:53:11 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: kjam22

I think that Satan knows for certain that he will lose. I believe he has read God’s Word, and has probably been told by God himself. His hate for God is so great that he doesn’t care that he will lose, just as long as he gets to take as many of God’s creation with him.


13 posted on 11/19/2012 5:54:40 PM PST by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

That’s one of the primary thoughts. That he knows he can’t win but just wants to do the damage etc. I’ve talked to a few of his professed followers. You know... they really believe Satan will win the battle ultimately. That bad will win in the end. We know differently, but they believe it.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 5:55:00 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: OldNavyVet
If Satan exists, who created him?

Which prompts another question.

Why would God create something so evil and so imperfect?
15 posted on 11/19/2012 5:55:06 PM PST by adorno
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To: kjam22

“Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.”


16 posted on 11/19/2012 5:55:39 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: CMailBag

:)


17 posted on 11/19/2012 5:55:49 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: kjam22

No, he does not believe he can win.

However, he does NOT want to perish (and lose) alone.

Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels (not man).

Man will only go there by rejecting grace (therefore God does not determine someone’s eventual abode, but the free will of man determines his fate).


18 posted on 11/19/2012 5:57:30 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: kjam22

“YOU CANNOT FIGHT ME
FOR I HAVE
A SWORD OF HATE!!!”

“BUT ONE THING YOU CAN’T SEE
MY ANSWER IS SIMPLY
IN IMPENETRABLE
FORTRESS OF LOVE”

(Hensley/Box/Kerslake)


19 posted on 11/19/2012 5:59:37 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: kjam22
They have no choice but to believe prophecy. They are aware that God does not lie.

They seem to be adept at seeing into the future either way.
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: / The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. / And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. / And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers, / And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city, / And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans. …

— Acts 16:16-21

20 posted on 11/19/2012 6:02:51 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: kjam22

Sci Fi author James Blish wrote a series of novels with this plot. Been 40+ years since i read them but they were interesting and even posited a way humanity could destroy demons. The best line I remember is a priest seeks to exorcise Satan and is defeated and says that it’s impossible since it is written that heaven shall overcome darkness and Satan responds that in war both sides write propoganda to serve their interest. Some here will find the stories blasphemous but I found Blish an interesting read.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 6:03:20 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: adorno

God created an angel. The angel chose to rebel. Man chose to follow him.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 6:04:13 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: kjam22

Right now he is just wondering how he is going to get his twinkie fix.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 6:05:55 PM PST by albionin
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To: IrishPennant

Satan knows he’s defeated. He’s just trying to take as many with him to hell as he can. He wants to deny God as many believers as he can because he HATES humanity. He steals, kills and destroys every day those who allow him entrance into their minds.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:41 PM PST by sgfan1212
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To: IrishPennant

Satan knows he’s defeated. He’s just trying to take as many with him to hell as he can. He wants to deny God as many believers as he can because he HATES humanity. He steals, kills and destroys every day those who allow him entrance into their minds.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:54 PM PST by sgfan1212
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To: Olog-hai

Good points... I’m certain they are aware of the prophecy. Yet they are in rebellion as if they don’t accept it. ?? But I like the text you posted. The text gives us some insight.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:54 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: gop4lyf

Agreed.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:54 PM PST by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: kjam22

Pride consumes reason.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:54 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: IrishPennant

Satan knows he’s defeated. He’s just trying to take as many with him to hell as he can. He wants to deny God as many believers as he can because he HATES humanity. He steals, kills and destroys every day those who allow him entrance into their minds.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 6:07:59 PM PST by sgfan1212
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To: albionin

No, satan knows full well he was defeated by Christ at the Cross and because of the resurrection. Now, it’s just sheer, unmitigated hatred and trying to take all he can with him into hell.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 6:08:20 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: kjam22

In the Biblical account its simply astounding that 1/3 of the angels in heaven went along with the demented Lucifer and got kicked out of the glorious heaven.


31 posted on 11/19/2012 6:08:28 PM PST by tflabo
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To: kjam22

Ever see The Fallen Ones? As SciFi Movie channel originals go, one of the best, if you ignore the giant walking wicker-man. After all, just how far wrong can you go with Tom Bosley cast as a Rabi?

Anyway, Rabbi Eli Schmitt, has occasion to ask Satan about his plans in person.

Satan lays them out.

Although he claims he is “by no means an expert on the Book of Revelations, but I have often thought that the Christians had something right when they depicted the end of the world,” Rabi Schmitt says, “there is nothing you describe in there, YOU ARE GOING TO FAIL!”

Satan gently responds, “But I have to try, Rabi, it is what I do.” then kills him.


32 posted on 11/19/2012 6:10:46 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: tflabo

It would make you think that even if Lucifer didn’t believe he could defeat God... those angels that followed him did.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 6:12:16 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: kjam22

Does Satan believe he can defeat God.?

Not sure ,but right now in the USA he is doing a pretty fair job of it.

Now maybe it isn’t a real fight in that God may have just given up on us, but with all of the wins by the ACLU and school prayer and crosses and nativity sets, with the Homo in chief filling our military,and same sex marriage, I would say the battles are going in favor of satan right now.

It would be nice if God took a hand in this game, and soon.

But then we don’t know his real plan, maybe he is waiting for us to take a hand in CW2.


34 posted on 11/19/2012 6:12:29 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Olog-hai

First of all define what you mean by win or lose.

What is Satan’s mission?

To destroy God’s creation?

If that is the case than doesn’t Armageddon achieve that goal?


35 posted on 11/19/2012 6:14:23 PM PST by kokoda
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To: kjam22

Glad you posted this - I’m discouraged today (world events plus a sprained ankle!) and seeing this headline made me remember what’s going on. Thank you!


36 posted on 11/19/2012 6:14:55 PM PST by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: WriteOn

Satan was the first evolutionist, thinking he could evolve beyond God. See Isaiah 14.


37 posted on 11/19/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: kjam22

The real question is, will evil people defeat the good people? Will good people just accept the power of the evil ones even though they far outnumber them? Good people never start wars, the evil ones do, and its usually the good who suffer and lose the most. Its mostly about up bringing, and the environment you grow up in. Don’t blame the Devil for evil, blame complicity and apathy.


38 posted on 11/19/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: MonicaG

Your welcome. No doubt, there is spiritual warfare going on. It is the big picture... Hope your ankle gets better quickly.


39 posted on 11/19/2012 6:16:22 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: Olog-hai

BUMP!!


40 posted on 11/19/2012 6:17:04 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: sgfan1212
“Satan knows he’s defeated. He’s just trying to take as many with him to hell as he can. He wants to deny God as
many believers as he can because he HATES humanity. He steals, kills and destroys every day those who allow him entrance into their minds.”

Bravo!
I Couldn't have said it better.

41 posted on 11/19/2012 6:17:05 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: adorno; OldNavyVet

“If Satan exists, who created him?”
“Which prompts another question.
Why would God create something so evil and so imperfect?”

The Bible says God created the angels and Lucifer (Satan) was the most beautiful. He wasn’t satisfied with that and rebelled getting some angels to join him. He was cast to earth to do his dirty work and, after the Lord’s Day comes, he will be cast into hell.


42 posted on 11/19/2012 6:17:30 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Does Satan Believe He Can Defeat God?

You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”

Sounds like he did at one time at least.

Now I think he just wants to thwart God in any way he can.

43 posted on 11/19/2012 6:18:40 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: kjam22

i think before the cross, i believe he actually thought he had a chance. after the cross, no way. he’s just trying to take as many of us down with him before his time runs out.


44 posted on 11/19/2012 6:19:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Westbrook

thanks... good text


45 posted on 11/19/2012 6:20:17 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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To: RoosterRedux

i don’t think so. satan has to ask permision of God to do certain things. you don’t ask permission from someone if you think you are more smart and powerful than they are.


46 posted on 11/19/2012 6:21:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kjam22

It’s more of a case that he fears the hell fire and is doing everything to put off that fate for as long as possible.


47 posted on 11/19/2012 6:22:08 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: kjam22

He knows he can’t defeat God but wants to take as many as he can with him as he can. And all he can do is use deception so others will either lose their faith and/or prevent others from knowing the fullness of God.

His time is short and he knows it, so he’s in
‘how many can he seduce with a lie.’ mode FULL TIME. It’s in the airwaves, it’s in the laws evil imposes, it’s in the schools to get the children - it’s surrounding us.

Same sex marriage, baby killing, PC, ....the list is endless to what he’s been doing.

And when people speak out with elections - evil steals it. Make no mistake.

John 10:10 “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.”

So anyone saying that God allowed it is wrong! God wants us to have a good abundant life but HE knew how people would give themselves over to be seduced by evil - so HE told us what HE knew - for It is Written.


48 posted on 11/19/2012 6:22:26 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: kjam22

Rock Paper Scissors?


49 posted on 11/19/2012 6:23:16 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

agree


50 posted on 11/19/2012 6:23:24 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fHjvo6eRkI)
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