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The Shroud of Turin The Holographic Experience (1 Minute Amazing Video)
Shroud 3D.com ^ | Dr. Petrus Soons

Posted on 11/17/2012 11:28:19 AM PST by GonzoII

This website summarizes work connected with digitizing Shroud photographs taken by Giuseppe Enrie in 1931, enhancing the digitized images to improve details, translating the enhanced images “gray scale data into depth data”, generating a sequence of up to 625 images of each of these, and combining these images with a Holoprinter to produce holograms (3D images) of the Shroud. It also summarizes my study of these holograms and discovery of heretofore unseen details, which confirm many previous findings and reveal some suprises.

(Excerpt) Read more at shroud3d.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: research; schroud; science; shroud; shroudofturin
Notice as the Lord's face turns that his beard under his chin is in a wave going back toward his neck and pressed up under his chin as if by wrappings.
1 posted on 11/17/2012 11:28:30 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Impressive.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 11:35:35 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: GonzoII

I never noticed before what appears to be a heavily piped tunic collar.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 11:41:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: GonzoII
What I think I can see is the swelling on the bridge on His nose, as if it had been broken by a blow or a fall. It also looks like there is a small part of His beard missing, maybe pulled?

I wish they had the same images for the rest of the body. I struggled to look at the right shoulder and maybe there's evidence of bruising by the weight of the cross.

Before anybody starts making fan of me, let me mention that I am not Roman Catholic, but as a chemistry graduate student I got a chance to listen to the head of the team that analyzed the Shroud in the late 70s or early 80s (my memory is not so good these days). I don't have any doubt that is THE shroud!

4 posted on 11/17/2012 11:41:58 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: knarf

I was wondering that as well. And were coins placed over the eyes?


5 posted on 11/17/2012 11:59:58 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Former Fetus

If you check out some other images he has on his site you can see that the hair is pulled back like a braid and the sides of his hair is hanging long beside his face (curled?) just the way the Orthodox Jews ware it today. The”hard shell” Jews never change anything.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 12:04:34 PM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

ware=wear


7 posted on 11/17/2012 12:05:54 PM PST by WVNan
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To: All

http://vimeo.com/13622517


8 posted on 11/17/2012 12:08:58 PM PST by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: WVNan

Thanks! I know it’s just movies, but I’ve often wondered why they almost always represent the common people with short hair and Jesus with long hair. It never crossed my mind that it was the locks of an observant Jew!


9 posted on 11/17/2012 12:09:24 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: GonzoII

His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew.

I’ve always believed the Shroud of Turin to be a clever artist’s hoax from the Middle Ages, and this does nothing to change my mind.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 4:15:29 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray

You might want to look into it a bit further. Try Ian Wilson’s “The Blood and the Sword”. It’s an interesting detective story.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 5:59:33 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Stingray

“His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew”

If he was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary, then I’d say deconstructing hypothetical DNA would be rather a waste of time, wouldn’t you?


12 posted on 11/17/2012 8:14:45 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc; Stingray
“His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew”

Your error is to compare what you think a "Middle-Eastern Jew" now looks like with what a Middle Eastern Jew would have looked like 2000 years ago. That region of the world has had more people from different places sweeping through it over the centuries than any other place. Tell me, how close do Ashenazi Jews resemble Sephardic Jews?
13 posted on 11/17/2012 8:18:46 PM PST by aruanan
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To: GonzoII; Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...

Shroud of Turin PING!


14 posted on 11/17/2012 10:02:35 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: GonzoII

Gave me chills!
I believe!


15 posted on 11/17/2012 10:34:15 PM PST by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: aruanan
Check this out
16 posted on 11/17/2012 10:39:05 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Stingray
His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew.

Have you ever thought of the possibility of western Europeans being of Israeli decent? The Bible says often in the Old Testament that they would be dispersed throughout the world. Maybe with a heavier concentration in Europe? Many races have those in their race that are lighter than others. The Jews of today look more like Europeans than any other race. Their detractors accuse them of not being real Jews because they look so Caucasian, without realizing that it is likely that many of the Caucasians are of the same decent. The name Labin, Abraham's nephew, Rebekkah's brother, and Rachel and Leah's father, actually means white. Names often denoted something unique about the individual with the name in ancient times.

17 posted on 11/17/2012 11:48:34 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
"And were coins placed over the eyes?"

I can't concieve of observant Jews performing such a pagan practice as that.

18 posted on 11/18/2012 5:12:55 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Former Fetus

“It also looks like there is a small part of His beard missing, maybe pulled?”

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t the beard been described before as a two-part beard or “forked” beard? Perhaps was the conventional way in that society?


19 posted on 11/18/2012 5:23:17 AM PST by Nabber
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 11/18/2012 6:48:21 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Stingray; Swordmaker
National Geographic channel featured a TV special titled "The Real Face of Jesus" that was a result of years and years of study and advanced computer generation that reconstructed a face based on the Shroud itself.

The Real Face of Jesus - Shroud of Turin used to create new 3D portrait of Jesus

The classic "x-ray" negative picture of the Shroud is incredible in that it actually contains 3-D information, like a statue that is hidden data within the image. Science is still attempting to get its arms around this as there is no other image that has a recorded history centuries long that contains such data.

At the 1:00 minute mark of this video, you see the Shroud an the almost Nordic classical features of the X-ray image of the Shroud. Many things were taken into consideration to produce the computer generated estimation of the face of Christ that ensues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ggxvgcx88&feature=related

What was produced was this image:

This is a much more an image of a classical Jewish man. there were some "gaps" filled in during the process. Hair, compression of the cloth, distortions caused by the cloth, etc. However, if you watch the entire 2.0 hour TV series you can tell that the team really did their homework. This was not an overnight process. It literally took years and years to produce.

I am not saying this computer generations is 100% accurate. However, it is my opinion that it is as close as we are ever going to get until we see Him face to face. And thank Christ, I will.

21 posted on 11/18/2012 9:31:35 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: aruanan; Stingray
what you think a "Middle-Eastern Jew" now looks like

Most of us know Jews of the Ashkenazi branch, with distinct features they took on for the 2000 years of living in Asian and central European diaspora.

22 posted on 11/18/2012 1:35:28 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: WVNan; Former Fetus
They are called "peyos". It was the traditional hair arrangement for Jewish men in that day...and for some still is.

The Torah says, "You shall not round off the peyos of your head" (Leviticus 19:27).

The word peyos refers to sideburns -- i.e. the hair in front of the ears that extends to underneath the cheekbone which is level with the nose. The Talmud explains that this law only applies to men, not to women.

23 posted on 11/18/2012 7:10:57 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Like this?


24 posted on 11/18/2012 7:22:20 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

Umm...yah. Like that.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 6:06:55 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Sorry if this particular pic offended you. I had seen it earlier in the day and it had cheered me up at the thought of how many young ultraorthodox Jews are serving in the IDF. But I realize that the picture of a soldier is not appropriate when we are talking about the Prince of Peace. I just meant to show the peyos.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 6:37:17 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: knarf
I never noticed before what appears to be a heavily piped tunic collar.

That "tunic collar" is an artifact from a fold in the Shroud cloth... the body is nude.

27 posted on 11/19/2012 1:16:16 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: knarf
I never noticed before what appears to be a heavily piped tunic collar.

That "tunic collar" is an artifact from a fold in the Shroud cloth... the body is nude.

28 posted on 11/19/2012 1:16:28 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

When the figure turns to it’s left, the end of the ...line ... disappears and as it turns to it’s right it reappears and becomes more pronounced.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 1:56:42 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Thanks for the word “Peyos”. I never knew what they were called, or if I did, I forgot.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 6:01:01 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Former Fetus
Sorry if this particular pic offended you.

Not at all. Please. I am no shrinking violet. My bum around t-shirt is an IDF t-shirt my son got for me when he was in Israel a few years back.
In fact, I was rather impressed by how well used the gentleman's M16 is. He has been around the block a few times.

No offense at all. My response was only tinged with a bit of sarcasm because of the most prominent object in the phonto. It rather grabs one's attention so the peyos are not so quickly seen.

31 posted on 11/20/2012 6:17:43 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Former Fetus

Of course, phonto=photo.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 6:18:43 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It rather grabs one's attention so the peyos are not so quickly seen.

I reckon that depends on one's point of view. When I first saw the pic, the peyos jumped out at me, even if I didn't know the name, and the pic went immediately in my collection of IDF soldiers wearing tefillin, prayer shawls and, now, peyos. Eze 37 talks about a mighty army and many scholars believe he was referring to the IDF. I would like to add that it refers to the observant Jews in the IDF.

33 posted on 11/20/2012 6:40:56 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: GonzoII

Does Our Lord have a phyllactery on his forehead?


34 posted on 11/22/2012 6:26:14 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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