Posted on 11/16/2012 7:28:39 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
So this article would have us believe that Jesus is appearing to and trying to save the Muzzies?
He had the gift of Faith, did not let the traditions of men get in the way. It is exciting to see God reaching these people held in the darkest of human traditions. Being introduced to the Word of God is a good first step. Many of these new disciples of Jesus Christ will achieve martyrdom before they ever get to graduate from theological junior high. The Holy Spirit works with souls where they are. They will sit at the low table until the Groom notices and says, “Friend, come up higher”.
Jesus doesn't care who you are. He only cares about who you can become.
FYI, Jesus died for ALL! Whosoever will...........
You made several mistakes:
“They are teaching her the things that no Catholic bothered to teach her.”
Show me a Catholic had a chance to do it. It took a war for this woman to be able to hear even an incorrect version of the Gospel.
“Had they bothered to preach the Gospel to them thenmaybe they would not be outnumbered by the muslims that want to kill them .”
Your point would make sense ...if it was rational. Catholics are suffering in Syria right now - from both sides.
“Putting anything before God is idol worship , what ever you choose to call it doesn’t change what it is .”
And veneration of the saints doesn’t put them before God, so you’re not actually saying anything. Your ignorance is comparable to hers.
The key is her ignorance.
Actually, when you truly know Jesus you want to know His saints as well since He made them. They are your family.
According to this woman, Jesus said, “Tomorrow I will send you someone who will tell you about Me. Listen to him.”
Jesus didn’t say that she’d be told about your “saints,” but that she’d be told about Him.
You demean Christ by insisting that Jesus is insufficient.
You wrote:
“According to this woman, Jesus said, “Tomorrow I will send you someone who will tell you about Me. Listen to him.””
First, that’s what we are being told. We have no idea if this actually happened.
“Jesus didn’t say that she’d be told about your “saints,” but that she’d be told about Him.”
Right. So, she is being mislead by the Evangelicals.
“You demean Christ by insisting that Jesus is insufficient.”
You bear false witness by claiming - FALSELY - that I EVER insisted, claimed, wrote, suggested or even thought that Jesus is insufficient.
True to form, a Protestant here is already resorting to lying. You can now claim all you want that you love Jesus, but I will have no reason to believe you because you’ve proved to be a bad witness. I suggest you do some serious soul searching about the lack of integrity you offer in your service to Christ.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters will prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
So, a Roman Catholic Freeper resorts to name-calling and ad hominem attacks. I totally expected that.
Go waste your time talking to dead people, and encourage others to do the same. I’ll talk to the living Christ, and will never stop encouraging people to go directly to Him.
Wait, why do you want to burn the saints?
im·mo·late
1. -- to sacrifice.
2. -- to kill as a sacrificial victim, as by fire; offer in sacrifice.
3. --to destroy by fire.
Adoration is for Christ alone!
Agreed.
Glorious good news!
Everyone who is a believer in Christ, including the angels, are known as saints. The Catholics like to pick certain people out and hold them to a higher standard and label them as saints but they are wrong. Read the Bible and you’ll see.
Wouldn't that make you an intercessor? If somebody asks you to pray for them on their behalf, do you turn them away and tell them they should go directly to Christ and stop bothering you?
I’m alive, though. Talking with the dead is specifically prohibited in Scripture.
Certainly the Bible prohibits consulting mediums and necromancers. However, if we define the Christian Church as the community of all believers in Christ, and we believe in eternal salvation and the immortality of the soul, I would suggest that those who have departed this earth are still quite alive in Heaven, and remain members of the Christian church (unless somehow they stop believing in Christ once they get to Heaven.)
When I *pray* to the Saints I really don't consider it anything different than me asking a fellow church goer, friend or family member to pray for me - to Christ. I also meditate on their lives, actions, faith and in many cases martyrdom not to worship them, but as a means of inspiration as to how my life may be better spent in Christ's service. I think we can agree that God (in three persons) should be the sole object of our worship, and the Scriptures the primary directive for implementing that worship. I think we can also agree that some of us implement the above better than others, so why not look to them as examples?
You wrote:
“So, a Roman Catholic Freeper resorts to name-calling and ad hominem attacks.”
Everything I said was true. What you said was not. I never said, claimed, insisted, nor suggested, nor even THOUGHT that Jesus was insufficient. Yet that is EXACTLY what you claim I did. That’s bad witness on your part.
“I totally expected that.”
You totally expected to say something about me that was untrue?
“Go waste your time talking to dead people, and encourage others to do the same.”
Those in heaven are not dead. God is the God of the living. Mark 12:24.
“I’ll talk to the living Christ, and will never stop encouraging people to go directly to Him.”
Talk to Him more often. Ask Him to give you grace so you don’t bear false witness against others. Apparently you are asking for that right now.
Excuse me but this entire are is loaded with Catholic Arabs and there has not been an Evangelical presence their until very recently . Catholics Arabs got outnumbered by Islamic Arabs because they did not share the Gospel . Where the Gospel is preached people come to Christ even former Muslims.
Catholics have had a couple thousand years to do this but chose not to . BTW I know who the pastor is in the article . He is a former Catholic who heard the Gospel in Israel from a Jew.
You wrote:
“Everyone who is a believer in Christ, including the angels, are known as saints.”
Everyone in the early Church was called a saint (Cor 1:1, Rom 1:7,Phil 1:1, Col 1:2, Eph 1:1). Today, not everyone who says they believe in Christ can be called a saint in the same way. Too many heresies have gotten in the way. Also, angels are called saints by convention - “sanctus”. It is largely a quirk of language. They are holy, but they are not saints as human beings can be saints. EVen when people cite verses for angels being called saints, they are rarely very clear on that point: see Deut 33:2-3 or Zech 14:5 or Dan. 7:18 for instance.
“The Catholics like to pick certain people out and hold them to a higher standard and label them as saints but they are wrong.”
False. Catholics do not “pick certain people out and hold them to a higher standard and label them as saints”. God gives grace to men to make them saints. The Church merely recognizes what they are and treats them accordingly as the children of God they are. Perhaps you never knew that. If you don’t know what the Catholic Church actually holds to or teaches you probably shouldn’t be stating your opinions on it since they will be poorly informed to say the least.
“Read the Bible and you’ll see.”
I read it often - probably more than you do.
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