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Does It Matter Which Person of the Trinity We Pray to?
Christian Post ^ | 11/14/2012 | John Piper

Posted on 11/14/2012 9:33:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The following is an edited transcript of the audio.

Does it matter which Person of the Trinity we pray to? Yes, I think it matters. But being wrong about doesn't mean that it's in the category of damnable sin and maybe not even in the category of sin at all.

The Holy Spirit is sent into the world, according to John 16, to glorify the Son. And he glorifies the Son by leading us to the Son and causing us to see the Son as the ground for our access to the Father. The Son came to die for our sins in order to bring us to God. So the pattern that you find almost uniformly-I say almost uniformly-throughout the New Testament is to pray to the Father in the name of the Son by the power of the Holy Spirit. So we're said to pray "in the Spirit" in Ephesians 6:18. "Pray in the Spirit."

"Pray in the name of Jesus," I think means "on the basis of what Jesus has done to make our access to God possible," namely his blood and righteousness. So when I say, "In Jesus' name" at the end of a prayer, I mean "because Jesus died for me and rose again, covered my sins, and imparted and imputed righteousness to me, I have access to the Father." "Because of him"-that's what "In Jesus' name" means.

I know of no example or encouragement to pray... No, no, no. That's not true. I was going to say, "to pray to the Holy Spirit." But "Come Holy Spirit" is not an evil prayer to the Holy Spirit. "Come Holy Spirit."

But if you got into the habit of praying to the Holy Spirit all the time-"You're my Benefactor. I pray to you"-you would be out of sync with the pattern of the New Testament.

So my bottom line answer-and I've been asked this a lot-is to follow in general the pattern of the Bible, namely, pray to the Father in the name of Jesus by the power of the Spirit, that is, in reliance upon the help of the Spirit.

But, from time to time, "Maranatha! Lord Jesus, come!" is not a bad prayer. And "Holy Spirit, fall upon us and grant us a fresh baptism" is not a bad prayer.

So, in general, pray to the Father; but occasionally, to express their Personhood and your own love for them, telling the Spirit and the Son that you love them and that you would like them to come in fullness is a good thing.


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: god; prayer; trinity

1 posted on 11/14/2012 9:33:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What a great post!


2 posted on 11/14/2012 9:51:44 AM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus prayed to the Father. Jesus never said, “worship me”. He said worship God the Father.

I follow the example Jesus set. He said to believe in him but he never said to worship him. That would be worshiping a man, even a divine man.

The prayer begins “Our Father who art in Heaven” for a reason.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 10:01:16 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Pray to God. Apologize to your children.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The best way is to say three Hail Marys, one for each of the three persons of the Godhead.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 10:12:03 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does It Matter Which Person of the Trinity We Pray to?

Depends if one really wants their prayers heard and answered. Christ = God with us in a flesh body prayed to the Heavenly Father. Christians pray to the Heavenly Father in the name of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

5 posted on 11/14/2012 10:29:44 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

RE: Jesus prayed to the Father. Jesus never said, “worship me”. He said worship God the Father.

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Jesus ACCEPTED people’s worship and never rebuked them for doing so.

Matthew 14:33 “Then those who were in the boat worshiped him Jesus, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

John 9:38 “Then the man said, ‘Lord Jesus, I believe,’ and he worshiped him.”

The 10 Commandments which governed the life and worship of God’s people begin with the declaration of who God is and the commands to worship God alone and no one or nothing but Him (Exodus 20:1-17).

To worship anyone or anything other than the One True God as the incredibly sin of idolatry that is forbidden throughout the Bible.

But, Jesus freely welcomed other people to call Him God and worship Him as God without correcting or rebuking them for being in error. Therefore, Jesus acceptance of worship also proves that He is God.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.” (John 1:1-4)

“The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth” (John 1:14)


6 posted on 11/15/2012 5:29:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: steve86

RE: The best way is to say three Hail Marys, one for each of the three persons of the Godhead.

Why Hail Mary? Why not Hail Father, Hail Son, Hail Holy Spirit, one for each of the persons of the Godhead?


7 posted on 11/15/2012 5:30:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The answer to the question is in the origin of The Rosary.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 8:06:00 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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