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To: Usagi_yo

>>That’s simply not true. Even a cursory glance of Zen Buddhism, the 4 noble truths and the noble eightfold path noble will tell you that.

Even with Zen Buddhism there is no relationship with God and no salvation. Zazen might bring you closer to “enlightenment,” but in that case what is “enlightenment” without God? Furthermore, much of Zazen is reflection on humanity, and not humanities relation to God.

I think that Zazen too is probably the least corrupt of Buddhist sects - Sokka Gakkai being the worst - but it doesn’t hold a candle to Christ and his sacrifice. Even my wife converted from Buddhism to Christianity because there is, as she said, “nothing really spiritual about it.”


6 posted on 11/11/2012 1:30:27 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

Christianity is a literal and competitive religion. It has strict methods, competes for others to participate, and relegates those that do not — that is the corruption of man. It is Christ, his parables, his life and his death we are to contemplate on, not worship the church. I often contemplate the life of Christ as one on the noble eightfold path.

Buddhism doesn’t compete, isn’t literal and doesn’t relegate, but it too gets corrupted by man in that there is too much focus on the Buddha and the Monks. When the focus is supposed to be on the individual and the noble eightfold path. To live in a corrupted world without ourselves being corrupted.

Salvation and Enlightenment are the same to me. Salvation deals with the here and now and this life. Enlightenment deals with complete cycle of lives we live and the final transcendence of our entire being to God’s end.

The only conflict is the corruption of one vs the corruption of the other.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 2:01:06 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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