Throwing a cup of water on a house fire would be something good as well but will still bring criticism for its ineffectiveness.
" brings out the Catholic haters in droves.
That s a funny thing to read having just returned from Mass.
"Why dont you all take a deep breath...
Sitting back and taking deep breaths, issuing meaningless papers about "concerns" are what got us here.
"and go back to Westboro Baptist Church (which, btw, is not truly Baptist but uses the name only because anybody can call themselves Baptist)?
Not a fan of those whackjobs, sorry to disappoint.
Gay marriage is going to be the thing that will be used to silence and illegalize the Church in both Europe and the US. The Obamacare oppression doesnt really need to get going. Now that all these countries have legalized gay marriage, becuase most people (Catholic, Protestant or agnostic) think that if something is legal under Caesar, its moral and legitimate, when Caesar comes after the Church on this issue, there will be no support.
Which is exactly why yet another article in some Italian newspaper "expressing concern" is a joke.
"And I think many people on FR, I hate to say it, would be cheering on the destruction of the Church."
Some might, along the lines of wanting the GOP destroyed to be replaced with a real conservative organization, but not me. I prefer that both go on and succeed and will criticize both for milk toast responses and leftward leanings.
"But were your only hope, so dont be too hasty."
Yes, we are. (In case you are missing my points, I yelled at Joe Flacco today as well-but to say I'm a Pittsburgh fan because of it is silly. Its about wanting your team to win-which we did today!)
I entirely agree, but the thing is that we can’t sit here and scream invectives at the Church as a whole. There are bad bishops and bad clergy. I have a good bishop, but lousy clergy (left over from the two previous bishops), so it’s very hard for us in my diocese. And it’s probably very hard for any faithful Catholic anywhere, and even harder for any faithful bishop.
My bishop was born in Cuba and was brought here when he was 16, after he had seen the glories of Fidel and Che. He became our bishop about 2 years ago. He hates the left and really fought hard to get us to oppose the Obama regime (we spent the night before the elections praying before the Blessed Sacrament) but his Irish-American clergy undermined him. Still, he shouldn’t be criticized for having tried and failed.
As for the Italians, they’re a little on the lily-livered side, so if they even “express concern,” this should be taken as a major statement. They’ll probably retract it tomorrow anyway, so don’t congratulate them on this.
My commments were mostly directed at the other poster. I don’t know why it is that any time the Vatican (meaning the “official international Catholic Church”) says anything positive and agressive, the fundamentalist Protestants here run forward to cut it down. So what have they done, pray tell?