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On God's Election of Obama
Parchment and Pen Blog ^ | November 7, 2012 | C. Michael Patton

Posted on 11/09/2012 9:29:40 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick

I have kept an eye on what people are saying in my circles about Obama’s re-election. Things don’t look too good there. Fear, anger, frustration, and hopelessness are filling the thoughts of those of us who are supposed to have the most hope. There is no time that the sin of idolatry comes to light more than after a Presidential election. One person I know says that they are taking off a week of work to recover. Another says they are leaving the country. Yet another says this is the downfall of America. It is the end. The downfall of America? The end? Really?

It is hard for me to get too upset about these elections. Sure, there are implications. These implications extend to my family and my job. They make me look at the people in my country and think, “Really, is this who we are now? Is this what it has come down to?” Were I to place the full weight of my body (which is getting lighter every day!) on the chair of human achievement, I suppose I would feel less secure today than I did yesterday. But I don’t and I can’t. In fact, I found myself rejoicing once the results came in.

Obama is our president for the next four years. How bad is that? I suppose I could talk about all the issues involved, both economic and moral. I suppose I could talk about how much worse it is now going to get. I suppose that I could get ready for the most bleak outcome: increased unemployment, higher taxes, less pay, fewer donations to Credo House, waiting in line for health care, homosexual marriage, increased toleration for the death of the unborn, increased intoleration for Christianity, and a thousand other things. But this would lack perspective. Whether it is Obama or Romney, I pause and take account of this fact: I live in the most secure, free, and moral country that has probably ever existed. And we are a long way from giving up this title. Are we heading toward a “fall”? Maybe, but we are still a long way from the cliff. In fact, it is not even in sight yet.

But let us say for the sake of argument that Obama is the iconic president who will lead the charge off the cliff. Let us say that America is heading for disaster. Let us say that in ten years our teeth will be on edge due to the sour grapes that Obama is handing out. Let us say that Obama will be the cause for an imminent loss of security, freedom, and morality. What then? If we knew this without a doubt, what then? Is it then time to despair? Is it then time for us to tear our cloaks, shave our heads, and go into mourning? How could it be?

My favorite theologian and philosopher, Bono, once said in a song about Christ’s death, “I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword. I threw the dice and they pierced his side. But I have seen love conquer the great divide” (“When Love Comes to Town”). The worst event in the history of the world is when we hung our Creator on a tree and let him die. We all went to the polling booth and said, “We will not have this man to rule over us.” We voted against the very incarnation of goodness, righteousness, and truth. We held the scabbard of the soldier’s sword as he killed our savior. Yet, while this was the worst event in the history of humanity, it was also the best. While it was a day for the greatest mourning in the history of the world, it was also a day for the greatest rejoicing in the history of the world. While angels gawked at the arrogance of man, they gawked more at the love of God. God drew the sword on himself that day. He was in charge. I held the scabbard as the King of Kings was unelected from office. Yet God’s plan was that through evil greatness might be revealed. Have we not learned? Do we stand in the crowd in front of the cross with hopeless despair or with great anticipation and excitement of what God is doing?

We all stand in front of the cross on election day, not knowing what God’s plan is. Will righteousness be delivered or killed? Will evil triumph or be smothered? Will we begin to heal or continue to be beaten? Who knows? But what we don’t have the right to do is keep from rejoicing in anticipation that our Father is going about his business and he has something in mind.

Obama has been reelected. Please don’t come down too hard on me as I rejoice. Me and my kids got down on our knees tonight and prayed that Romney would win. He did not. Yet, in a very real way, I am excited. No, I don’t agree with Obama, his policies, his plans, or his dreams. Yet I have this really awesome Father who does incredible things like kill his own Son. I have this Father who knows what he is doing and is in complete control. I have this Father who elected Barack Obama as his man and you are not going to believe what comes next. Yes, it looks bad. Yes, there are a lot of people in this crowd crying. Yes, they are without hope. But let me tell you about the way he works. It is too cool.

I am in the crowd tonight listening. Dashed dreams and hopelessness are topics of conversation. But I can’t join in. I know the Guy in charge of all this. And because I know his M.O., I will hold the scabbard with great anticipation and joy. God’s will has been done tonight and I can’t wait to see what he does next. Don’t fault me for rejoicing in the unexpected and unwanted. I can’t help it. This is Christianity 101.

“Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.” –Titus 3:1-2

Pray for my president that God elected tonight. I commit to loving and encouraging him. I will speak no ill-will of him. He is the man God elected and my arms are laid down. There is no authority except from God and who am I not to hold the scabbard of God’s mission? Selah.


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Prayer; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; election; obama
This is tough medicine, but the encouragement and hope that it gives me has helped make this a wonderful Friday! Let us unite as Believers in Christ to be faithful followers of the King of Kings regardless of what perplexes these mortal frames of clay.
1 posted on 11/09/2012 9:29:41 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

God gave us free will. Obama is on us, not God.

God did not put Stalin or Hitler in power as part of His plan. He gave man free will, and man chose a path divergent from God.

When an adult allows their child to take the car, after specifically forbidding speeding and alcohol, it is not part of the adults greater plan that the child gets drunk, rolls the car, and dies.

We (America) own this.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 9:35:45 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

This is the biggest bunch of crap.

Read this and educate yourself:

http://jillology101.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/god-elected-obama-and-other-lies-that-christians-tell/


3 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:14 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Dear Mr. Patton,
Oh do rejoice. Yes, God is in control. I believe that. I know that.

I also know that some seasons are awful. The Holocaust was awful. WWI and WWII were awful. Some people’s assignment from God are really terrible assignments. I think we are called to faith always, but not rejoicing always. We are called to know the seasons, to have eyes to see and ears to hear.

I suspect your friends who are leaving the country are called to do so. I suspect your friends shutting things down in their life are called to do so.

In fact, I have more trust in how they are walking out their faith that I have in you rejoicing. Having said that, maybe that is your call. I just submit that perhaps you not assume that is everybody’s assignment.

Just sayin...


4 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:48 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Consultant Class Have Destroyed America")
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To: DrewsMum

I am a born again Christian, who always votes, and I am disgusted with Obama, and very worried we will soon not have a country left. I think a civil war is coming, I just do not know when. I do not plan to go quietly into the night.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:20 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: SampleMan
God gave us free will. Obama is on us, not God.

Exactly. I get sick to death of hearing, "How could God have let this happen?"
"Why did God let such a good person die?"
...ad nauseum.

There is a Supreme Being folks but quality of life on this rock is up to us. Just get your arse and your soul ready for life after this rock. Then you will see the much bigger picture. Many will not like what they see that awaits them.

6 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:20 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Well said. This pretty much aligns with my gut instinct that we are approaching an Old Testament level tough love period from our Father.

Re-reading the OT may be give us some perspective. Repeatedly, God would allow Israel to suffer when they lost their way.

I would say that the moral decline we have in the USA is close to the declines in Israel that caused them to head into bondage, defeat and destruction.

There is an old saying: "the only way some people will look up is when they are knocked on their back".

7 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:48 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
I agree that God is in control and His plan will go forth no matter what insolent man will do. However...

This election tells us exactly where the American public is. It has turned it's back on God. It once again has turned from God's principles and moral law. They cheer everything that God calls evil. They have made the golden calf once again. They sit down to feast and rise up to play. We are now in the wilderness and the promised land is out of view.

What next? God sends them 'great delusion' that they would believe the LIE that have rejected the TRUTH. Read 2 Thess. 2. Obama is just a symptom of the underlying moral cancer. Give us a King. Here he is. Reap what you sow. The wicked shall wax worse and worse. This is a time for Christians to really reflect on what being a follower of Christ means. Time to take up your cross and follow HIM.

9 posted on 11/09/2012 10:00:32 AM PST by BigFinn (The King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Sorry God did not elect Obama Satan did. If God put Obama in power then he put Hitler in power too...

The God of Israel turned his back on Israel when they forsook him. He is doing the same to America . You cannot sanction the murder of 50 million babies and assume Gods grace. We live in a country amoung a people that made Hitler look like an amateur.

That which you do unto the least of these you do unto me.....


10 posted on 11/09/2012 10:10:00 AM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: SampleMan

I’m sure Romans chapter 13 kicks in somewhere here.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 10:11:18 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

God will NEVER do for us what we can do for ourselves. We have brought this on our selves true enough. Praying for Romney to win is an interesting response....what did you DO to defeat the destroyer in chief???? I am so tired of the Christian who is meek and mild and says ‘Oh well it must be God’s will so I’ll just sit here and wait for what’s next.”

Jews who thought of themselves as good Germans found themselves in the same concentration camps as others. They went meekly and mildly saying oh well it must be God’s will.

This is bad theology on sooooo many levels


12 posted on 11/09/2012 10:15:41 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I’m sure you’re a very nice person, but I wish you not publish this stuff. If this is God’s will, then everything is God’s will. Then we can’t punish people who murder others because IT’S GOD’S WILL. Understand?


13 posted on 11/09/2012 10:24:29 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

The article is half right. Obama’ reelection was ordained by God. Scripture indicates God’s sovereignty over everything, including elections. And the powers that be are ordained by God whether they be personally righteous or not. Still, the idea that we are to be silent in the face of evil is not biblical. Where at all possible live in peace, stand for the truth even if the stars fall, and you’re doing God’s work.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 10:27:43 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

The article is half right. Obama’ reelection was ordained by God. Scripture indicates God’s sovereignty over everything, including elections. And the powers that be are ordained by God whether they be personally righteous or not. Still, the idea that we are to be silent in the face of evil is not biblical. Where at all possible live in peace, stand for the truth even if the stars fall, and you’re doing God’s work.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 10:27:53 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

The article is half right. Obama’ reelection was ordained by God. Scripture indicates God’s sovereignty over everything, including elections. And the powers that be are ordained by God whether they be personally righteous or not. Still, the idea that we are to be silent in the face of evil is not biblical. Where at all possible live in peace, stand for the truth even if the stars fall, and you’re doing God’s work.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 10:28:07 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

The article is half right. Obama’ reelection was ordained by God. Scripture indicates God’s sovereignty over everything, including elections. And the powers that be are ordained by God whether they be personally righteous or not. Still, the idea that we are to be silent in the face of evil is not biblical. Where at all possible live in peace, stand for the truth even if the stars fall, and you’re doing God’s work.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 10:28:36 AM PST by Blogger
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To: 5thGenTexan

That’s exactly right. When Israel spent 200 years worshiping other gods and were being attacked, they THEN cried out to God. And He said “Go get the other ones that you loved so much.”


18 posted on 11/09/2012 10:33:41 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
My favorite theologian and philosopher, Bono, once said in a song about Christ’s death

Tactfully expressed, nothing else needs to be said about the author. He has already summarized his position.

19 posted on 11/09/2012 10:39:24 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

It is ENTIRELY possible that we DID NOT re-elect Obama. As each story is posted about serious voter fraud -— drip, drip, drip -— it is becoming more and more obvious that the election was stolen instead of won.

The saddest thing of all is that our elected leaders who CLAIM to be CONSERVATIVE will brush all this off and not do a single thing about it. The Republican Party should SUE each and every voting district where Obama received 99%-100%-108% of the vote. Surely there are TRUE PATRIOT lawyers who would take up this gauntlet pro bono.

I will watch and wait to see if anything is done -— but I must confess my expectations are low. Like many others, the criminal element of the Democrat party has tried us and pushed us, and found us to be a soft target. Who can blame them for taking advantage of an adversary who refuses to fight back from even the most blatant provocation!?!


20 posted on 11/09/2012 10:40:07 AM PST by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

America is a nation without God and has been given over to reprobate mind. It is those minds that elected Obama. Sure, God let it happen, because of our evils...the insistent killing of the least and the defenseless among us and the perverted marriage.

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Prophecy Of Jeremias 6:[28] All of these princes go out of the way, they walk deceitfully, they are brass and iron: they are all corrupted. [29] The bellows have failed, the lead is consumed in the fire, the founder hath melted in vain: for their wicked deeds are not consumed. [30] Call them reprobate silver, for the Lord hath rejected them.

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Epistle Of Saint Paul To The Romans 1:[26] For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. [27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. [28] And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient;[29] Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, [30] Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,[31] Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. [32] Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

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Second Epistle Of Saint Paul To Timothy 3:[1] Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times. [2] Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked, [3] Without affection, without peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness, [4] Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God: [5] Having an appearance indeed of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Now these avoid.

[6] For of these sort are they who creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, who are led away with divers desires: [7] Ever learning, and never attaining to the knowledge of the truth. [8] Now as Jannes and Mambres resisted Moses, so these also resist the truth, men corrupted in mind, reprobate concerning the faith.[9] But they shall proceed no farther; for their folly shall be manifest to all men, as theirs also was. [10] But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, patience,[11] Persecutions, afflictions: such as came upon me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra: what persecutions I endured, and out of them all the Lord delivered me. [12] And all that will live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. [13] But evil men and seducers shall grow worse and worse: erring, and driving into error. [14] But continue thou in those things which thou hast learned, and which have been committed to thee: knowing of whom thou hast learned them; [15] And because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

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Epistle Of Saint Paul To Titus 1:[10] For there are also many disobedient, vain talkers, and seducers: especially they who are of the circumcision:

[11] Who must be reproved, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. [12] One of them a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, slothful bellies. [13] This testimony is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; [14] Not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, who turn themselves away from the truth. [15] All things are clean to the clean: but to them that are defiled, and to unbelievers, nothing is clean: but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.

[16] They profess that they know God: but in their works they deny him; being abominable, and incredulous, and to every good work reprobate.

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Epistle Of Saint Paul To The Hebrews 6:[4] For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, have tasted also the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] Have moreover tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,[6] And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery. [7] For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God. [8] But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt.

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Deuteronomy 32:32
Their vines are of the vineyard of Sodom, and of the suburbs of Gomorrha: their grapes are grapes of gall, and their clusters most bitter.

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Deuteronomy 29:23
Burning it with brimstone, and the heat of salt, so that it cannot be sown any more, nor any green thing grow therein, after the example of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrha, Adama and Seboim, which the Lord destroyed in his wrath and indignation:

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Isaias (Isaiah) 1:10
Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom, give ear to the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrha

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saias (Isaiah) 13:19
And that Babylon, glorious among kingdoms, the famous pride of the Chaldeans, shall be even as the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha.

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Jeremias (Jeremiah) 23:14
And I have seen the likeness of adulterers, and the way of lying in the prophets of Jerusalem: and they strengthened the hands of the wicked, that no man should return from his evil doings: they are all become unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrha.

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Jeremias (Jeremiah) 49:18
As Sodom was overthrown and Gomorrha, and the neighbours thereof, saith the Lord: there shall not a man dwell there, and there shall no son of man inhabit it.

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Lamentations 4:6
Vau. And the iniquity of the daughter of my people is made greater than the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown in a moment, and hands took nothing in her.

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Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 16:53
And I will bring back and restore them by bringing back Sodom, with her daughters, and by bringing back Samaria, and her daughters: and I will bring those that return of thee in the midst of them.

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Matthew 11:24
But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.

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Jude 1:7
As Sodom and Gomorrha, and the neighbouring cities, in like manner, having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, were made an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.

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Apocalypse (Revelation) 11:8
And their bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city, which is called spiritually, Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord also was crucified.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 10:43:36 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
I have been thinking about this more and more lately

“In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise. He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Daniel 8:23-25

22 posted on 11/09/2012 10:54:32 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Yet God’s plan was that through evil greatness might be revealed.

God's Plan doesn't need evil to reveal His greatness. The thought isn't Scriptural. One manner in which God responds to evil is by grace, but also by love, righteousness, justice, and vengeance.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 10:54:54 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Blogger

Just because God’s Sovereignty rules over all things, doesn’t mean he approves, directs, or ordains all events.

If the decision is between 2 unbelievers, He might not lower Himself to make such a contrived decision, but instead might simply allow worldly power systems the liberty to exercise their decisions, manifesting to all Creation how their independence from His Will leads to catastrophic consequences.

One poor choice of words is in the article’s title. God’s election is different than a national election.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:55 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
I look at what Obama and the MSM did to win. Pandering and lies to cling to 'power'. Paul Ryan and others pointed out how divisive the dems were playing on class envy and painting good people as evil. This majority of this nation has become fat and lazy who doesn't want to take responsibility. Live off of others -- redistribution (stealing). Bearing false witness. Reminds me of many of the bad kings in the Old Testament. He needs to repent. I don't really get to worked up at him being elected - the nation needs a revival and he will force it.

I just wrote my US Congressman from KS-4 today to hold fast to his principles - I support him in opposing Obama's tax increases.

25 posted on 11/09/2012 11:04:25 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Cvengr
God's Plan doesn't need evil to reveal His greatness. The thought isn't Scriptural.

The Bible is chock full of evil kings and rulers both in the OT and NT. I pray a grassroots conservative rise up IN GOD'S TIME to lead our nation and world through this great reset.

Obama is demonstrating every day what deceit buys. Our work as missionaries is to instruct from the timeless stories of the Bible just what he is.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 11:12:48 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

We believe that individual liberty makes a nation stronger than any alternative because we have an inherent faith in the wisdom of free people.

We believe in free markets as superior to any other system because supply and demand react to each other in organic ways, not through manipulation, control or edict.

We believe in free will because God knows man will be better by making his own mistakes and learning from them rather than being controlled and channelled by a supreme being or group.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 11:20:43 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: MachIV
I’m sure Romans chapter 13 kicks in somewhere here.

Those are not red lettered words. More of good advice on not getting thrown directly into the arena.

That said, we have a Constitution. I respect and submit to it. I do not respect and submit to false-leaders that usurp power which is not theirs.

28 posted on 11/09/2012 11:22:34 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Cvengr
To put a finer point on your comment:

(4) Thus the permitting of evil occurs for the sake of the end, to make possible salvation. It is a known fact that people have complete freedom in what they think and will, but not complete freedom to say and do whatever they think and will. For one can think as an atheist and deny God and blaspheme the sanctities of the Word and church. Indeed, a person can will to destroy them by word and deed until they are utterly annihilated, but he is restrained from doing so by civil, moral and ecclesiastical laws. Consequently he harbors these impious and wicked thoughts within, thinking and willing them, and even intending them, but still not doing them. Someone who is not an atheist also has complete freedom to entertain many thoughts that are thoughts of evil - thoughts of fraud, for example, or lascivious, vengeful, and other irrational thoughts - which he also occasionally does. Who can believe that if a person did not have complete freedom he not only could not be saved, but would even totally perish? ~ Divine Providence 281:1 (Swedenborg)

29 posted on 11/09/2012 11:27:06 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: BigFinn
Your post articulated the truth of what has happened and accurately portrays what is coming.

America has crossed the Rubicon and nationally chosen to reject the Lord Jesus Christ and Almighty God's rule over our people and nation. They have purposely chosen to side with those who renounced the true and living God, and Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel... THREE TIMES. They have sided with those who hate America and her Judeo-Christian foundations, laws, morals and underpinnings. Sided with those who hate Israel, the Jews and the one true and Almighty God of Israel and the entire universe. Sided with those who love and endorse unbridled evil: murdering unborn babies by the millions and who support and promote unbridled sexual promiscuity, perversion, sodomy and for the first time since the foundation of the world, as a nation, support and promote perverted, so-called sodomite "marriage". They have willfully, purposely chosen a godless, wicked, evil, man as their president-dictator to rule over them and have purposely chosen godless, wicked, evil men and women who are his willing servants to represent them. All of this knowing full-well the kind of evil, wicked, godless people they voted for and have placed into power over them and the entire nation.

Almighty God has removed His hand of favor, grace and protection from America and has given us over to our own evil, lustful, wicked ways, given us over to the very people who hate America, and given us over to CERTAIN JUDGMENT, both in the here and now and in the future.

We have willfully sown the wind, and are reaping the whirlwind. America and the "American dream" as God established it, and as we have known it our entire lives is over. No mere man, no political party, no political movement can undo the damage, deliver us from what is and is to come, or put the pieces of this puzzle back together again.

Unless there is a national repentance and a nation-wide "Spiritual Awakening" and a turning in faith from our sin to a personal saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, that reaches from the President of the United States and his family, down to the lowliest person in America, as took place in Nineveh (this scenario, though possible, is highly unlikely), THERE IS NO NATIONAL SALVATION FROM WHAT IS COMING, ONLY JUDGMENT, FALL AND DESTRUCTION.

Godly Americans who know and love the Lord Jesus Christ (the "righteous remnant") residing in the land and those Americans who do not know the Lord, and yet voted against the evil outcome of this election need to do everything in their power to PREPARE, and do whatever you can to SURVIVE what is about to descend upon us. I am talking about surviving on the very basic level of the personal survival of themselves and their families and to take it one step further, maybe the survival of your neighborhood, town or small community.

God is using the crucible of judgment that is coming as a refiners fire to purify and refine the lives and faith of His people in America; those who truly know the Lord Jesus Christ, and to use this judgment as a means of calling individual Americans to personal, saving faith in Christ.

The sure and certain judgment that is coming to America will also serve as a test to separate the chaff from the wheat; separating false Christians from genuine Christians, those who do not know the Lord Jesus Christ from those who do, separating the ungodly from the godly.

If you are reading this post today and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior, I implore you, I beseech you to come to Christ and accept Him as your personal savior. He alone can and will save you from your sin. He alone can and will save your eternal soul. Flee, be reconciled to God, and be saved from this evil and perverse generation before it is eternally too late.

One more thing; in the new Obamaland-Amerika that is coming and already upon us, evangelical Christians and those professing faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as the one and only savior, the true and living God, the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" and the only, exclusive, way to heaven and to God the Father; and those proclaiming biblical Christianity, biblical morals and biblical ethics, ...these individuals, are the "new jews" as it were.

If you want to see how evangelical Christians and those espousing steadfast faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and biblical Christianity are going to be viewed and treated in Obamaland-Amerika and in our "society" at large, just look at how Germany viewed and treated the Jews under Hitler from the 1930's until Hitler's death and the utter collapse and destruction of fascist, Nazi Germany . That is what is coming to Obamaland-Amerika:

Bible believing evangelical Christians will at first be soundly, vocally ridiculed and their message rejected, they will then be ostracized from "society" and from gainful employment (these things are already taking place throughout America at an alarming, ever increasing rate). This animosity against them, their Christ and their brand of "Evangelical" Christianity will progress to outright persecution, imprisonment , and ultimately end in death if they cannot and will not accept "reeducation", recant their "evangelical" faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and become accepting participants in, and willing promoters of, Obamaland-Amerikan "society".

As for those who actually are ethnic Jews living in America; whether you voted for Obama or not, whether you are practicing the religion and faith of your forefathers or not. The handwriting is on the wall, just like evangelical Christians, your days are also numbered in Obamaland-Amerika because the Democrat party which YOU have placed into power over YOU, over YOUR CHILDREN, over YOUR GRAND CHILDREN, and over YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A JEW! The Democrat party which you have placed in power over all of America HATES the Jew, it HATES Israel, and it HATES the God of Israel. When (not if) the time comes, you will suffer the same fate as that of evangelical Christians listed above in the Obamaland-Amerika that is coming. I know this to be true because the Democrats told you exactly who and what they are and stand for at their convention. They rejected the Jews, they rejected the True and living God of the Jews and they rejected Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel THREE TIMES! You KNEW this, you SAW this and yet, you voted for and placed them in power OVER YOU anyway!

30 posted on 11/09/2012 1:07:59 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: SampleMan
Your post articulated the truth of what has happened and accurately portrays what is coming.

America has crossed the Rubicon and nationally chosen to reject the Lord Jesus Christ and Almighty God's rule over our people and nation. They have purposely chosen to side with those who renounced the true and living God, and Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel... THREE TIMES. They have sided with those who hate America and her Judeo-Christian foundations, laws, morals and underpinnings. Sided with those who hate Israel, the Jews and the one true and Almighty God of Israel and the entire universe. Sided with those who love and endorse unbridled evil: murdering unborn babies by the millions and who support and promote unbridled sexual promiscuity, perversion, sodomy and for the first time since the foundation of the world, as a nation, support and promote perverted, so-called sodomite "marriage". They have willfully, purposely chosen a godless, wicked, evil, man as their president-dictator to rule over them and have purposely chosen godless, wicked, evil men and women who are his willing servants to represent them. All of this knowing full-well the kind of evil, wicked, godless people they voted for and have placed into power over them and the entire nation.

Almighty God has removed His hand of favor, grace and protection from America and has given us over to our own evil, lustful, wicked ways, given us over to the very people who hate America, and given us over to CERTAIN JUDGMENT, both in the here and now and in the future.

We have willfully sown the wind, and are reaping the whirlwind. America and the "American dream" as God established it, and as we have known it our entire lives is over. No mere man, no political party, no political movement can undo the damage, deliver us from what is and is to come, or put the pieces of this puzzle back together again.

Unless there is a national repentance and a nation-wide "Spiritual Awakening" and a turning in faith from our sin to a personal saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, that reaches from the President of the United States and his family, down to the lowliest person in America, as took place in Nineveh (this scenario, though possible, is highly unlikely), THERE IS NO NATIONAL SALVATION FROM WHAT IS COMING, ONLY JUDGMENT, FALL AND DESTRUCTION.

Godly Americans who know and love the Lord Jesus Christ (the "righteous remnant") residing in the land and those Americans who do not know the Lord, and yet voted against the evil outcome of this election need to do everything in their power to PREPARE, and do whatever you can to SURVIVE what is about to descend upon us. I am talking about surviving on the very basic level of the personal survival of themselves and their families and to take it one step further, maybe the survival of your neighborhood, town or small community.

God is using the crucible of judgment that is coming as a refiners fire to purify and refine the lives and faith of His people in America; those who truly know the Lord Jesus Christ, and to use this judgment as a means of calling individual Americans to personal, saving faith in Christ.

The sure and certain judgment that is coming to America will also serve as a test to separate the chaff from the wheat; separating false Christians from genuine Christians, those who do not know the Lord Jesus Christ from those who do, separating the ungodly from the godly.

If you are reading this post today and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior, I implore you, I beseech you to come to Christ and accept Him as your personal savior. He alone can and will save you from your sin. He alone can and will save your eternal soul. Flee, be reconciled to God, and be saved from this evil and perverse generation before it is eternally too late.

One more thing; in the new Obamaland-Amerika that is coming and already upon us, evangelical Christians and those professing faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as the one and only savior, the true and living God, the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" and the only, exclusive, way to heaven and to God the Father; and those proclaiming biblical Christianity, biblical morals and biblical ethics, ...these individuals, are the "new jews" as it were.

If you want to see how evangelical Christians and those espousing steadfast faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and biblical Christianity are going to be viewed and treated in Obamaland-Amerika and in our "society" at large, just look at how Germany viewed and treated the Jews under Hitler from the 1930's until Hitler's death and the utter collapse and destruction of fascist, Nazi Germany . That is what is coming to Obamaland-Amerika:

Bible believing evangelical Christians will at first be soundly, vocally ridiculed and their message rejected, they will then be ostracized from "society" and from gainful employment (these things are already taking place throughout America at an alarming, ever increasing rate). This animosity against them, their Christ and their brand of "Evangelical" Christianity will progress to outright persecution, imprisonment , and ultimately end in death if they cannot and will not accept "reeducation", recant their "evangelical" faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and become accepting participants in, and willing promoters of, Obamaland-Amerikan "society".

As for those who actually are ethnic Jews living in America; whether you voted for Obama or not, whether you are practicing the religion and faith of your forefathers or not. The handwriting is on the wall, just like evangelical Christians, your days are also numbered in Obamaland-Amerika because the Democrat party which YOU have placed into power over YOU, over YOUR CHILDREN, over YOUR GRAND CHILDREN, and over YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A JEW! The Democrat party which you have placed in power over all of America HATES the Jew, it HATES Israel, and it HATES the God of Israel. When (not if) the time comes, you will suffer the same fate as that of evangelical Christians listed above in the Obamaland-Amerika that is coming. I know this to be true because the Democrats told you exactly who and what they are and stand for at their convention. They rejected the Jews, they rejected the True and living God of the Jews and they rejected Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel THREE TIMES! You KNEW this, you SAW this and yet, you voted for and placed them in power OVER YOU anyway!

31 posted on 11/09/2012 1:09:23 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Great posting. I am “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13).


32 posted on 11/09/2012 1:35:02 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Cvengr

God chooses kings. Scripture clearly says that.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 3:19:09 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Author sounded like a dunce. Then I read up to where he said his favorite theologian and philosopher is Bono. Quit reading right there. Author is an obvious imbecile.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:26:34 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Blogger

He also chooses Apostles, but He didn’t choose Matthias, but provided Paul instead. Man chose Matthias by drawing lots, even after praying to God for His guidance, but that doesn’t mean He will be forced by man to make a choice from man’s selection.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 9:47:09 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I agree with a lot you say but if you are right on all counts then i really did wrong, i voted for Romney and since you obviously did also, then we committed a great sin against god.

If it was Gods will for Obama to stay in the white house then God forgive us and i think maybe we all should think about it very carefully before giving sermons to some one else.


36 posted on 11/10/2012 9:40:16 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: SampleMan

Those are not red lettered words. More of good advice on not getting thrown directly into the arena.


That is also how i see it.


37 posted on 11/10/2012 9:58:07 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Blogger

God chooses kings. Scripture clearly says that.


God chose the kings in the old world, that is up until the time of Christ, but Jesus says my kingdom is not now of this world.


38 posted on 11/10/2012 10:04:24 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Obama will most certainly fulfill Gods purpose in bringing about the end times and Christs glorious return.

Obamas greatest failure is cursing Israel.

Israel will no longer be restrained and will soon attack Iran unleashing total world chaos.

As for us here gas prices will double or triple which will devastate shipping costs which will in turn cripple our already fragile and failing economy which then in turn spread to the rest of the world.

Tough times are certainly ahead.

Prepare for shortages.

Also I would encourage people to help the unprepared.

Have a plan because they will not.

I work at a food shelf and plan to help my neighbors with the resources at my disposal.

I can help provide food, security and leadership.

Lawlessness will certainly increase and the ability to organize neighborhoods will a valuable commodity in short supply.

That ability is attained by simply having a plan.

I am ready.

Who will people look to for leadership, preppers who go underground or shoot people on sight? Or those who have a plan to help them?

39 posted on 11/10/2012 10:35:37 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

God hasn’t voted yet.

To be continued!


40 posted on 11/10/2012 12:01:16 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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