Posted on 11/08/2012 2:10:53 PM PST by Colofornian
Good pt...
Michael Medved said today that there 21 million MORE "voting age" people than in 2004.
So if even half of those climbed on board since '08, 'tis a lot.
Of course, when we're even bandying about these #s, what's NOT mentioned are all of the unregistered voters who are eligible to vote.
Toss in those #s and we could get a lot of unique "could have been" scenarios...
But I'm telling you, these people tend to be rather "shepherdless" and would probably help the Dems more than the GoP.
I disagree that the young people are shepherdless.
Young Catholics are “on fire” for the Church. Seminarian numbers are up. Ordination numbers are up. The religious life for sisters will take about five more years to go up since they are just now cleaning out the old LCWR ones.
Anyway — I’m curious about youth in other denominations. What’s happening??
This wasn't a generic statement about ALL young people...
Context was about unregistered voters...who are younger...and 'twas broader of a statement than only Catholic unregistered voters...
I asked her how she reconciles her faith and political beliefs and it seemed to be she looks to govt to protect her from the truths of her faith (they are just suggestions, she would say). I left her over her selfishness and hypocrisy. There is no changing some people.
After Obama has declared war on Catholics, his voting percentages have remained the same from 2008. I ask you -- what's up with that?
More Catholics voted for Romney than voted for McCain. Consider the increase in population.
Whitie Catholics definitely need to get to the Hispanics, though, just like the white Protestants need to get to the Black Protestants who voted 95% for Obama. Figure that one out? LOL!
For my church, half the members are black -- in Africa.
White Catholics
I know your issues with Mormonism, but I wonder if it was wise to let the bigger evil (Moslem Obama) win. What do you think now?
Well, a LOT of people have said that whoever gains power, God's sovereignty is still in play...
IoW, that God has certain purposes for that...even if it's judgment vs. a people...and let's face it, if our land worships the $ -- what better way to "judge" us than by removing the average $1 from this land?
Many FReepers told me that God could work thru a pagan leader -- or one who calls upon a distinct god. Of course, the "leader" they were referencing was Mitt Romney. My Q earlier this week back to one of them is why didn't they apply this same theological application to Obama?
So, if God had anything to do with either allowing Obama to be POTUS -- and remain there -- then who would I be to question His sovereign wisdom?
And frankly, 'tis better to go the route of acknowledging active sovereignty vs. becoming a deist.
Another factor people tend not to consider is I believe we were "had" as a nation either (a) as soon as we were hit up as a nation financially in 2008 -- when even a POTUS we liked was in power; and/or (b) when Obama was put in power; or (c) the moment Romney became our unofficial nominee.
God's temporal judgment already seemed to be kicking in a LOT earlier than the average FReeper will acknowledge. I believe that FReepers were simply in denial about this -- and wanted to believe we still had an "out" somewhere...Hence, they treated Romney as some political messiah...the last "hope."
And the problem with that, as I see it, were I God, is why give a guy who already claims to be a competing god the glory of national deliverance? I mean Lds literally use the word "saviors" to apply to themselves due to baptism of the dead.
Why would God want to reinforce...
...glory for a false "god" (Romney)?
...the false notion that Lds are literal "saviors"?
...and the false Mormon prophesy of the White Horse riding in to rescue the constitution?
Lastly, think of it this way:
What has made the GoP great was its initial stances on social issues...going back to 1856 when it started when it said it would take on the "twin relics" of slavery and polygamy.
It took them on for the next 40+ years!
The GoP has spoken out on behalf of the pre-born.
Had the RINOs completed this takeover of the GoP, they would have (a) held power thru 2020 and beyond... (b) "Proved" to all that RINOism is the way to go; (c) They would have held a "funeral" of sorts for both the Tea Party & social conservatives.
We would have been "dead in the water"...the Third Wheel on a "date"...viewed as the "crazy aunt" that needs to be hid in the White House basement...
They tried to tell us that the "base" of the party -- the two groups above -- were irrelevant. That we only needed to be good "minions" and show up on election day...and that they would rule the party, the White House, and the world via RINOism.
Well, for the umpteenth time, they proved how wrong they were!
They keep giving us either boring white guys or country club millionaires whose country club embraced open racism; and they somehow think that our changing multi-cultural nation won't notice...
Can you say stupid???
I know your issues with Mormonism, but I wonder if it was wise to let the bigger evil (Moslem Obama) win. What do you think now?
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Bigger evil based upon WHAT?!?!?
Matthew 10:28 - Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Islam isn’t knocking on doors telling people that they are Christians and the ‘only true church’ while lying to their faces about their beliefs.
I have been seeing a lot of what Lewis said in the Screwtape letters here....
Let him begin by treating the Patriotism or the Pacifism as a part of his religion. Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part. Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the “cause”... Once you have made the World an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man, and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing. Provided that meetings, pamphlets, policies, movements, causes, and crusades, matter more to him than prayers and sacraments and charity, he is ours — and the more “religious” (on those terms) the more securely ours. I could show you a pretty cageful down here
Christians (real Christians) never put politics over their faith.
Comparing mormons to Hitler is idiocy.
Deliberately exaggerating that if you buy into the “lesser of two evils” political relativism, where does that rhetoric as an ethic stop?
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