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Obama wins with the Catholic vote
patheos.com ^ | 11/7/12 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:20 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Obama wins with the Catholic vote

November 7, 2012 By

Details, from Catholic News Agency:

The Catholic vote was divided much as was the rest of the nation’s voters, leaning slightly in favor of Obama. A final Gallup poll, reflecting tracking from Nov. 1 to 4, showed Catholics favoring Obama by 52 to 45 percent.

“The Catholic vote, like any number of votes, does have the potential to make an impact,” said Gregory Smith, a senior researcher who specializes in Catholic politics at the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life.

While they do not vote as a unified group, Catholics are significant in elections because of their large numbers, making up approximately one in four U.S. voters, he said.

Smith said it is difficult to pinpoint what effect the contraception mandate and religious freedom issues are having on the Catholic vote this year.

And there’s this:

In his concession speech Tuesday night, Romney encouraged fellow Republicans to join him in praying for President Obama “and for this great nation.”

“We look for our pastors, priests, rabbis, and counselors of all kinds to testify of the enduring principles upon which our society is built: honesty, charity, integrity and family,” he said.

From the Catholic Sentinel:

The vote is still being parsed, but experts think the majority of the Catholic vote went for President Obama. Catholics who attend Mass weekly seem to have favored Romney.

Catholics represent more than a quarter of the electorate and have voted for the winner of the popular vote in every presidential election since at least 1972. Both campaigns conducted intense outreach to Catholic voters and had Catholic vice presidential nominees. Meanwhile, Hispanic voters also broke heavily for Obama by a 39-point margin.

Exit polls noted that the economy was a top issue and voters were evenly split over which man would do better at fixing it. But the president was seen by voters as more empathetic, some polls said.

It appeared Republicans would retain their majority in the House, and that Democrats would hold their lead  in the Senate.

It’s close, but Washington state voters appear to have approved same sex marriage in their state. Voters in Maryland and Maine made the same choice. That breaks a string of 32 losses in various states, including Oregon.

In all three states, the electorate countered an effort by Catholic bishops, who argued that marriage must abide by natural law. Baltimore Archbishop William Lori had priests read a letter in defense of traditional marriage from the pulpit.

Minnesota voters rejected a measure that would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

And from Huffington Post:

Despite strong assaults about everything from what opponents have called a “war on religion” for his healthcare reform policy’s provisions on contraception coverage and pastors’ protests against his support of same-sex marriage to questions over the his support of Israel and his relationship with Jewish voters, President Barack Obama was reelected to a second term Tuesday night with support from religious and especially nonreligious voters.

Obama carried Electoral College votes in several battleground states where religious voters were key parts of the electorate, including Catholic-heavy Ohio, evangelical-heavy Iowa, and Virignia. Another swing stage with a large population of religious voters, Florida, was too close to call by early Wednesday morning.

In his concession speech from Boston, Republican challenger and former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney congratulated Obama, saying it was a time of “great challenges” in America and that “I pray the president will be successful in guiding our nation.” He thanked supporters for their prayers and said Americans will “look to our pastors and priest and rabbis and counselors of all kinds” as the nation moves on from the election. “Ann I join you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation,” he said, asking God to “bless America.”

Speaking at his victory speech in Chicago, Obama thanked supporters and “every American who participated in this election,” saying that voters “reaffirmed the spirit that triumphs.” Returning to his motivational, pastor-like tone that was common in his first campaign, Obama referenced the American “belief that our destiny is shared” and said a sense of “love, charity, duty and patriotism” is the hallmark of the nation’s culture.

“Together, with your help and God’s grace we will continue our journey forward and remind the world just why it is that we live in the greatest nation on Earth. God bless you. God bless these United States,” Obama said.

Initial exit polls — which are expected to change through Wednesday as more results come in — showed a mix bag of support for Obama and Romney among religious voters. Among people who said they attend religious services weekly, for example, exit polls indicated Romney took a significant lead. But among voters who said they attend services “occasionally” or “never,” Obama had large leads.

Early exit poll results also showed Obama losing the overall white evangelical vote to Romney, but winning the overall Catholic vote by just a few points. Among Jewish voters, initial exit polls showed Obama having an overwhelming lead over Romney, but preliminary results also showed him winning a smaller percentage of the Jewish vote than he did four years ago.



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To: what's up
The only reason the Protestant vote is only by 13% is that the black church is factored in. Take them out and the margin of Romney voters would be much greater.

Glad I left the Catholic church a long time ago and attend a God-fearing conservative denomination.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 8:54:13 AM PST by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: Rca2000

That’s why we need female priests, Bishops, liberated nuns — yep, that’ll do it!


22 posted on 11/07/2012 8:54:52 AM PST by mikrofon (+ Prayers for America +)
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To: DesertRhino

No, they stayed home. This is why Romney earned fewer votes than John McCain - despite the fact that John McCain suspended his campaign and the disaster that was the 2008 crash.

And he still ran a better campaign than Romney. :)


23 posted on 11/07/2012 8:55:54 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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Well, Catholics who do not attend Mass on Sunday are not really Catholics anymore. It is more accurate to refer to thenm as former Catholics or people who were “born Catholic.” Faithful Catholics , who do attend Sunday Mass, voted overwhelminhgly against Obama, as they did in 2008. These faithful Catholics would have heard or read the bishops’ statements.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 8:58:02 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: bella1

Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back. While “catholic” voters who don’t attend mass voted for Obama en masse, evangelicals stayed home.

At least the majority of faithful mass attending Catholics voted for Romney.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 9:00:38 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: JCBreckenridge

Thats an interesting strategy. If our candidate is not utterly perfect on the issue, such as suggesting rape and life of the mother exemption, then we go ahead and vote for the psychopath who advocates killing babies that manage to survive an abortion?
This mentality has just enabled FAR more abortion than Romney ever would have on his worst day.

Maybe the body count will reflect our purity? This is like marrying a career prostitute to avoid marrying a fiancee’ who isn’t a virgin, and is therefore impure.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 9:00:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

if this is true this really pisses me off....


27 posted on 11/07/2012 9:02:36 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Gargantua
Just goes to show how seriously Catholics take their own doctrine..

The half that voted for Obama or the half that didn't?

Why would the sincerity of the devout Catholics be questioned? I don't get it.

Another FReeper was saying the Catholic Church should "Go to Hell". Why is that? The bishops in my state sent out a letter telling parishioners to not vote for gay marriage. Some of the Catholics evidently disobeyed. Why is the Church to blame? Why the irrational hate for the Church among other Christians? You are making Satan very happy.

28 posted on 11/07/2012 9:03:53 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Maybe after Islam becomes the official religion of the United States they will come around.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 9:04:33 AM PST by McGruff (This is probably the biggest cover-up in American history - Sen. Fred Thompson)
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To: Godwin1

I would suspect that a majority of the Catholics who voted socialist came from south of the border.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 9:05:01 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: diamond6

Amen.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 9:05:39 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Quite the opposite. The Catholics that I know who voted Obama attend mass every Sunday. The ones I know who do not attend church regularly mostly voted for Romney.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 9:05:50 AM PST by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The question is what kind of church do you have when neither the parishioners nor those who lead them are interested in the doctrines that supposedly define them.

It would appear the Church has chosen a popularity contest approach to be all things to all people, rather than being an anchor for all people against the world of temptation and consequences.

It is said that after elections we get the world we deserve. I have resisted that belief since I didn't vote for any of this, but now I see that we do.

The older generation first receives the world they have taught to their children.

And here we are, wondering what comes next. Too bad the Church doesn't know the answer or chose not to teach it...but it's not too late, is it?

33 posted on 11/07/2012 9:11:22 AM PST by GBA (Vote as if your Freedom depends on it...)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

They’re crazy. Don’t they know how he’s destroying them?


34 posted on 11/07/2012 9:11:50 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Time to purge the church of lukewarm Catholics.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 9:12:04 AM PST by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Time to purge the church of lukewarm Catholics.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 9:12:17 AM PST by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Someone at that church needs to set the example. (the right one)


37 posted on 11/07/2012 9:12:26 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: steve86

I friend who I trust and is very well connected in the Church said in September that over half the members of the USCCB were still planning on voting for Obama this year. Given what Raymond Arroyo said about their vote in 2008 ( see http://onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-many-of-hierarchy-voted-for-obama.html ) I believe this.

“All heresy begins below the waist.” And the problems in the USCCB still run very deep in this regard. That is the primary explanation for the failure of the Church in this election.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 9:16:03 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: JCBreckenridge

“No, they stayed home.”

Only an immature low life A-hole would have stayed home. Their big day of moral posturing just got us the maximum possible number of abortions,
6 dollar gasoline,
the end of coal (doubling our electric bills),
the end of fracking, skyrocketing taxes,
“flexibility” with Russia,
more of Moochelle Obamas food nazi policies,
a warm embrace of the muslim brotherhood,
nuclear weapons for Iran,
the final abandonment of Israel,
the likely destruction of the dollar as a reserve currency,
further oppression of American churches,
and all the Abortion Obama and his machine can churn out.

Good work guys.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 9:16:53 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

This should be a profound warning to the Vatican that it has effectively lost the souls of over half of those in America who call themselves Catholics.

Hypothetically, it is comparable to a situation in which over half the Catholics living in a nation embraced unholy paganism, while continuing to call themselves Catholic. What can the church do?

When the church is afraid to carry out actual excommunication, unwilling to do more than argue with the heretic that they should stop being heretics, it is no longer Catholic.

What priest is brave enough to ask for a show of hands of who voted for Obama, then to ask them to group together and tell them that they are excommunicated, that their names will be removed from the records of the church, and that in future they are to be denied communion or even attendance at mass? And finally give them a request that they henceforth do not call themselves Catholics.

It is past the point where the church can try to redeem the majority who have strayed. It can either expel them or be destroyed by them.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 9:17:06 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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