Man of Lawlessness and 2 Thessalonians 2

The Bible ^ | Paul of Tarsus

[LifeComesFirst]

For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

[Nifster]

And in O’s arrogance I have come to believe that he is indeed the anti-Christ

[MtnMan101]

Thank You

[MtnMan101]

Amen

[jcwky]

Amos 2:6

Thus saith the Lord;
For three transgressions of Israel,
and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof;
because they sold the righteous for silver,
and the poor for a pair of shoes;

[lurk]

Is this President the man of sin?

I don’t know.

What I do know is that collectivism can only take root and grow in a population that is spiritually and morally corrupt. This, like the Clinton elections in the 90’s, is a moment when our spiritual temperature is measured.

We will wake up tomorrow and do the next thing.

[LifeComesFirst]

What’s “the next thing”?

[dps.inspect]

We are told to be watchful... the world is nearly ripe for a false Messiah.

[Dr.Deth]

What “nearly,” kemo-sabe?

[c-b 1]

I do not believe Zero is the anti-Christ, but he provides an example of how the masses will blindly follow the anti-Christ.

[CottShop]

he certainly is proving himself to be a man of lawlessness isn’t he? Even the supreme court and it’s law mean nothign to him-

[BigFinn]

Perfect scripture. 2nd time I heard it tonight.

Delusion was on full display today. When is evil is called good and the masses wave their flags in approval, you know it's one minute to midnight.

[RginTN]

The Book of Job. God allowing SAtan to test America by taking away all.

[21twelve]

I think we need to remember that God doesn’t care too much about kings and Nations and groups of people, with the exception of Jews. But he IS concerned about the salvation of each individual. And He does work for good for all that believe in Him. Of course, the end of America and us scrounging around in the wastelands may be what it takes to make our faith in Him stronger.

I met a Chinese missionary that said the Christians in China were praying that Christians in America would be persecuted (like they were) so that our faith would grow. I told him “Tell them thanks. And tell then to knock it off!”

[RginTN]

Did not the tribulation make Job stronger??

[21twelve]

It did. But I’m just saying that it was him as an individual. America may be no more - but we need to realize that God is bigger than some nation. Even greater than America.

[cuban leaf]

I remember, 15 years ago, my then wife of 20 years, completely out of the blue, served me divorce papers “without cause”.

I remember the feeling and my feelings of the time following. The world changed for me as much as if it had physically changed, or I had changed places for the rest of my life with another person. It was gut wrenching. It was hard.

This is what this felt like.

I feel a bit like I am Dr. Zhivago. At the very least, I feel like I am going to see the same kind of change he saw.

The first, most obvious impact is that I’m tempted to walk away from all side activities - quit my bands. It is no longer relevant and distracts me from my relationship with my Creator. No more arguing politics with liberals on the internet. I must shake the dust off my feet as a testimony against them.

The hardest part of the “shaking the dust” is walking away from my adult children who are not saved. There are a lot of people I will be unfriending in facebook. I am done with all the arguments. It is pointless and, to be frank, last night proved it always was.

2008 put us in a place where we could see who Obama was. Yesterday we got to see who the American people are.

I have a lot more processing to do, but the words of a visiting pastor to my church a couple of decades ago ring in my ears as I type this, and the wisdom is apparent now:

“Where would the early church have been if it had put its faith in Rome?”

[poobear]

Prayers for your adult children. Everyone is Redeemable.

[RginTN]

Yes, I get your point however I believe God is allowing us- Christian Conservatives- to go thru 4 years of tribulation with Obama and pansy Republicans in government. I hope like Job, this makes us stronger.

[D1X1E]

And in O’s arrogance I have come to believe that he is indeed the anti-Christ

I dont think that but pastor last week talked about those having what he referred to as "the spirit of anti-Christ". Obama was specifically noted.

[subaru]

2008 put us in a place where we could see who Obama was. Yesterday we got to see who the American people are.

I have a lot more processing to do, but the words of a visiting pastor to my church a couple of decades ago ring in my ears as I type this, and the wisdom is apparent now:

“Where would the early church have been if it had put its faith in Rome?”

Thanks for that. The first line is a great encapsulation of this. The second point is even better.

I have been praying and fasting for this election, but honestly, I have not had the fervor of past election cycles when I did the same thing. But when things started going south last night, I hit my knees and prayed as hard as I had in a long time. I spent the night reading the Bible and didn’t even check the final results until this morning. I think I finally saw what God was trying to show me — to really realize how much I need Him and should be depending on Him and not earthly things. Now I have to find a way to put on a smiling face to my children and teach them the hard lesson that we are citizens of a heavenly kingdom not an earthly one.

[left that other site]

Yes. I hear you.
I was widowed a year and a half ago.

I disengaged from FB years ago, paid off or negotiated away crushing debt, lost my house to short sale, and closed all but one bank account.

I now am mortgage free, debt free, credit card free, and loan free.

As long as I can pay the rent (from giving private piano lessons)in my little apartment, I won’t be homeless.

It seems that, in a strange way, I have “Gone Galt”.

Dr. Zhivago was a scary book. It our struggle to fly under the radar, we may be facing decisions much like his.

[GBA]

Thank you for your informative and thoughtful post. The depth of what you often post here tells me you were tempered by the trials and tribulations you’ve gone through and that you found things of value in your struggles. I am better for your sharing the truths you found, especially now in this aftermath/beginning.

[LivingNet]

I do not believe at this point that Obama is the anti-christ. I believe the anti-christ will be the 12 Imam of Islam. However, I do believe they are on the same family cell-phone plan.