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Does Bible code predict President Romney?
WND ^ | Oct 2012 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 11/03/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by tflabo

A well-known Bible-code researcher has bad news for Barack Obama, as he claims hidden texts in the Holy Bible indicate Mitt Romney will be America’s next president.

Moshe Aharon Shak, an orthodox Jew and author of “Bible Codes Breakthrough,” has produced a series of videos on YouTube with his modern analysis of Scripture.

For those not familiar with Bible codes, they are said to be secret messages embedded in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Theology
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Torah numerology expert? Fascinating analysis from the video links.
1 posted on 11/03/2012 2:39:40 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: tflabo

No.


2 posted on 11/03/2012 2:43:14 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: tflabo

No


3 posted on 11/03/2012 2:45:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: tflabo

I’ve read s book from them and actually go look at their web site from time to time...prayers that this is true and for this election!


4 posted on 11/03/2012 2:48:02 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Jewels1091

Why do people post this type of idiotic stuff?

Bible Code? wrong book.

Is there a code in the Book of Mormon?


5 posted on 11/03/2012 2:49:17 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tflabo
Amazing! Dr. Gene Scott was saying the same thing about M.R. and 1947 years ago when referring to a future election 2012 and 2016.


6 posted on 11/03/2012 2:50:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: tflabo

No.

Bible code...Bible schmode...pure voodoo.


7 posted on 11/03/2012 2:50:30 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: tflabo

My Super Sleuth Secret Decoder ring is predicting a landslide win for Gary Johnson.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 2:51:07 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: tflabo

Stahhhp.


9 posted on 11/03/2012 2:51:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GeronL

White Horse Prophecy.....


10 posted on 11/03/2012 2:52:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GeronL

Supposedly, according to Dr. Gene Scott, there will be a President who will not be baptized as a Christian until sometime during his first term in office.


11 posted on 11/03/2012 2:53:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: tflabo
STOP POSTING "BIBLE CODE" BULLCRAP
12 posted on 11/03/2012 2:53:13 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: tflabo

13 posted on 11/03/2012 2:53:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GeronL

I don’t understand why some people are so snarky. If you don’t agree with the post, don’t comment, don’t read it at all. Or just say I don’t agree without trying to degrade the person who posted it.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 2:54:10 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: tflabo; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

15 posted on 11/03/2012 2:55:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: tflabo

Why does it also work for Moby Dick and War and Peace? You should try studying probability and statistics.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 2:55:45 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jewels1091

really, we have to agree with the post to comment?

The title is a question. We have to assent in order to post an answer?


17 posted on 11/03/2012 2:57:12 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jewels1091

The same poster loaded this up yesterday...same article.


18 posted on 11/03/2012 2:59:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: tflabo

19 posted on 11/03/2012 2:59:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GeronL

I didn’t say that..I just don’t understand why FR has become so nasty...I’ve been on here for many years and this site has lost a lot of people because of the nastiness...that’s why I hardly ever post anymore.


20 posted on 11/03/2012 3:00:24 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Jewels1091
From one of the videos it mentioned reaction against Obama as "oh my bowels'....Yesterday Axelrod said 'Obama's feeling it (campaign) from his inner loins'. Caught my attention today...

hey all I'm not superstitious but its interesting stuff. Having fun with it. Do what you wish with it...and dont worry--I can handle ANY negative comments without 'revenge' eheheheh..

21 posted on 11/03/2012 3:03:23 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: tflabo

Misuse of the codes!

The codes purpose is simply to provide a DNA-like lock on the true scriptures. The Lord condemns sooth-sayers.


22 posted on 11/03/2012 3:03:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jewels1091

I was reading some tea leaves and my crystal ball shouted that Romney would last 3 whole terms.

:p


23 posted on 11/03/2012 3:03:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tflabo

You posted this yesterday, why are you posting it again?


24 posted on 11/03/2012 3:05:41 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jewels1091

“I just don’t understand why FR has become so nasty”

I think it’s a cross of DU folks posting and folks on the extreme right.

Both are very similar in tone just opposite sides of the spectrum. The weird part though is that they both agree to hate everything.


25 posted on 11/03/2012 3:08:03 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: EEGator
You posted this yesterday, why are you posting it again?

We rationing here?

26 posted on 11/03/2012 3:08:19 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: EEGator

>> “Why does it also work for Moby Dick and War and Peace?” <<

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It doesn’t!

The examples from those texts were fraudulent. They made changes in the spelling of key words to shift the sequences. This was proven a long time ago. Same held true for the claims for Atlas Shrugged.


27 posted on 11/03/2012 3:09:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: tflabo

That wasn’t an answer, but have at it.


28 posted on 11/03/2012 3:09:59 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: editor-surveyor

And this code is in the english version or original greek/hebrew texts?

lol.

This code stuff is silly. That is the thing about Christianity, there are NO secrets, no secret knowledge because Adam and Eve ate the fruit. There is no mystical secrets in Christianity.


29 posted on 11/03/2012 3:12:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tflabo

Will you post it tomorrow and the day after? Next week on Saturday, too? PLEEEZE!


30 posted on 11/03/2012 3:15:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Jewels1091; GeronL

GeronL is partly right on this.

Torah is not a fortunetelling volume. The obvious purpose of the codes is to prevent tampering with the pure texts, not to be used to predict the future.

God hates sooth sayers.


31 posted on 11/03/2012 3:15:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: EEGator

This is the third posting of this idiocy!


32 posted on 11/03/2012 3:18:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GeronL

The codes are solely in the Masorite texts, for the purpose of assuring that the text is unmodified.

It is clearly the work of God, as proven by extensive statistical analysis. The probability of them happening by accident is nil.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 3:19:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

and who decided what the code is?

Who decided that every 9th letter on every 4th page or whatever would be it?

How do we know someone didn’t find a bunch of letters and then decide to make a code that fit it?

Humans devised the code, not God.


34 posted on 11/03/2012 3:32:17 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tflabo

35 posted on 11/03/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks editor——nice input. My question is if God is an absolute mathematical genius then why could there not be numerical significance from the original Hebrew words?

PS. I posted this twice because I’m interested to find out more—not get excoriated for it, ehehehe.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3779495/Hebrew-Numerology-Gematria-the-Mathematics-of-the-Torah#outer_page_3


36 posted on 11/03/2012 3:36:46 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: editor-surveyor

For those that are interested, here are several Moby Dick examples of “predicting” assassinations:

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html


37 posted on 11/03/2012 3:46:16 PM PDT by shoe212 (One of the few Conservative professors in the Midwest.)
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To: tflabo

My bible code research promised me a free pony when I was 9, I am still waiting.


38 posted on 11/03/2012 3:47:07 PM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: tflabo

A more rational look at the code:

http://www.skepdic.com/bibcode.html


39 posted on 11/03/2012 3:58:35 PM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: shoe212

You seem to miss the point that the text of Moby was altered to produce your “example.”


40 posted on 11/03/2012 4:11:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Nonsense is not “rational.”

Deal with reality or go to bed, but don’t lie.


41 posted on 11/03/2012 4:13:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nonsense is not “rational.”

I couldn't agree more...which is why I don't give credance to absurdities such as the Bible Code.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/hidden_messages_and_the_bible_code/

42 posted on 11/03/2012 4:19:48 PM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: GeronL

>> “Who decided that every 9th letter on every 4th page or whatever would be it?” <<

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You obviously have not done due dilligence on this.

The codes were found by exhaustive search of digital copies of the Masorite text. God had to have selected them.

The fortune telling nonsense is from after-the-fact search of events that are known, not done in advance of any event.

Its nonsense and wishful thinking by those that have no idea what God’s word is.


43 posted on 11/03/2012 4:19:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

The codes are undeniable (the real ones).

They are in the text, and were found by computer search.

After the book was published, charletans tried to foist false examples fron other texts to ‘disprove’ them but all of the examples of more than four characters were proven to have been achieved by altering the subject texts.

You, being of similar mind, got bit. Go suck your wounds.


44 posted on 11/03/2012 4:24:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Good article. Still if we were to believe in the existence of the ‘Bible Codes’, then we must take another step and assume that placing such codes in the text would have to affect the contents of the text, that is its veracity. That is to say, in order to make the Codes work, God, or whoever wrote the Bible, had to adjust the content, change it to fit the puzzle and thus make it less reliable as it would have been as a straight narration. Have the cake or eat it, dear believers in superstitions of this nature.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 4:41:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: editor-surveyor
People do react badly to this subject, although every book of the traditional Masoretic text, the five books of Moses, begins with an equidistant letter sequence with a skip frequency of 50, spelling T O R A H. This has been known for over a thousand years.

The book of Genesis is particularly well-studied in this regard and for a very long time. All the names of the Biblical Patriarchs are encoded in Genesis in the same manner.

So, while I grasp the source of the controversy, I do not grasp the derision. This is not new. In the modern era, some liken the purpose of it to a check sum, an authentication. Some say it's the book sealed unto the end times.

Regardless, it's to me an interesting puzzle. The surface text is vastly more important, but this is far beyond random chance and is there for a purpose.

We do not know just what that purpose is intended to be. Speculation could be a bad thing, but that should not stop further research into the matter, and has not.

Here is a pretty fair summary of the last decade or so, covering both the pros and the cons, for those who might have an interest:

http://unitedisrael.org/blog/2009/11/19/bible-codes-looking-back-a-dozen-years/

What it isn't is a means of predicting the future. The few examples of codes that appeared to have done so are the very rare exception.

46 posted on 11/03/2012 4:46:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Revolting cat!

Yeah? Well, my I-Ching reading says “The unyielding tiger bows to the phlegmatic river.”

So there!


47 posted on 11/03/2012 4:51:11 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: tflabo
You already posted this once.
48 posted on 11/03/2012 4:57:44 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: tflabo

You posted this same crap yesterday.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 5:26:12 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Want to bet if there is a fourth?


50 posted on 11/03/2012 5:33:13 PM PDT by EEGator
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