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1700 B.C.: 'Alla' god of 'violence and revolution'
WorldNetDaily ^ | Sept 17, 2012 | staff writer

Posted on 09/17/2012 4:31:09 AM PDT by wesagain

A research article posted on the website of terrorist-turned-Christian Walid Shoebat contends the oldest known references to the Islamic deity Allah are not in Arabian records but in Babylonian artifacts.

Ancient tablets describe “Alla” as a deity of “violence and revolution.” “This link sheds new light since for many years we have been hearing various ideas on where Allah came from. Christian and Muslim scholars – as well as secular professors – presented numerous arguments on just who Allah really is,” wrote Ted Shoebat, the son of Walid Shoebat.

In his heavily footnoted project, he writes that historians have suggested Islam’s beginnings are found in the Persian religion Zoroastrianism, while others, including Christian writers, argue Allah was a moon-god in Babylon.

The younger Shoebat, who already has published several books, said previously the oldest known reference to “Allah” was in northern and southern Arabia about the fifth century B.C., according to Kenneth J. Thomas.

The new find, however, links the name to....

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: allah; babylon; islam; zoroastrianism
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1 posted on 09/17/2012 4:31:15 AM PDT by wesagain
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"Ancient tablets describe “Alla” as a deity of “violence and revolution"

Plese allow me to introduce myself......

2 posted on 09/17/2012 4:34:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: wesagain
They were the enemies of God's people who had breached the wall he said. Ninth century B.C. soldiers from the ancient city of Nimrod. These were masters of evil and terror. “Terrorists” who breached the wall of God's protection. The details of what will happen to Israel is revealed in a prophecy....

Isaiah 10:5-7 Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger! And the staff in their hand is My fury. I will send him against an ungodly nation, and against the people of My wrath. I will command him to take the plunder, and to strip off the spoil, and to trample them like the mud of the streets. Yet he does not plan this, nor does his heart think so. For it is in his heart to destroy and cut off not a few nations.

And another... Isaiah 10:10 – 12 As my hand has reached to the kingdoms of the idols, and their graven images more than Jerusalem's and Samaria's; shall I not do to Jerusalem and her idols as I have done to Samaria and her idols? And it will be, when the Lord has broken off all His work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the proud heart of the king of Assyria and the glory of his high looks.

The Assyrians were brought into judgment. But because God wanted Israel to awake from it's apostasy......he would let the enemies strike. These who's language was Akkadian and is now Arabic. And as Israel was drawn into conflict so America has been drawn in; Iraq, Afghanistan, what next – Syria? The blood descendents of those who attacked Israel have breached the wall again!

Read "The Harbinger" - Jonathan Cahn

3 posted on 09/17/2012 4:37:51 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: wesagain

Watch for a Shoebat fat wad.


4 posted on 09/17/2012 4:40:10 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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'Allah', god of 'violence and revolution'

Radical islam has a lot in common with Obama's communist "Black Liberation" theology. It also advocates violence and revolution. The Weather Underground advocated it, too, along with the murderous Black Liberation Army of the 1970s and 1980s. Recall they and former members of the WU murdered 2 police officers and a security guard in a robbery of a Brinks truck. See my FR Home page for much more related info. The New and original Black Panthers are/were also proponents of communist, so-called, "Black Liberation".

5 posted on 09/17/2012 4:54:50 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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“See my FR Home page for much more related info.”

Keep for further research.
However, to convince the rest of the world requires the intervention of the Holy Spirit to remove the scales from their eyes.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 5:02:40 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: wesagain

The lie that is repeated by the MSM and Obama, etc. Is merely to convince us that Islam is no different from Christianity or any other. The historicity of either cannot be argued (I have tried) because they operate under the premise that there is no real God except your individual concept of Him. And, of course all views have to be valid.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 5:08:56 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: vanilla swirl
Keep for further research.

Thanks. If I had the funding (or hit the lottery) I have no doubt I could put together a documentary that would crush Obama's chances of being reelected.

8 posted on 09/17/2012 5:13:26 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: wesagain

The interesting link in that article is of ‘Alla’ (’Allah’) to Tammuz, the pagan god (of those people God judged) whose birthday we celebrate on December 25, calling it “Christmas” even though it’s far likelier He was born in September.

And I won’t even mention the Babylonian goddess of fertility, Ishtar, whose holiday we celebrate, calling it “Easter” and convincing children to search for eggs and eat chocolate bunnies, ostensibly in celebration of the Lord’s resurrection.

Israel isn’t the only chosen people to lose the plot completely....


9 posted on 09/17/2012 5:15:01 AM PDT by Publius Maximus (It was a nice Republic, while it lasted.)
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A fascinating discovery. Molded a violent Babylonian god with the messiah of Christianity and Judaism, created a world movement.


10 posted on 09/17/2012 5:18:44 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Publius Maximus
The interesting link in that article is of ‘Alla’ (’Allah’) to Tammuz, the pagan god (of those people God judged) whose birthday we celebrate on December 25, calling it “Christmas” even though it’s far likelier He was born in September.

And I won’t even mention the Babylonian goddess of fertility, Ishtar, whose holiday we celebrate, calling it “Easter” and convincing children to search for eggs and eat chocolate bunnies, ostensibly in celebration of the Lord’s resurrection.

Israel isn’t the only chosen people to lose the plot completely....


Well, you certainly have. No one on Christmas thinks of "Alla" and no one on Easter thinks of Ishtar.
11 posted on 09/17/2012 5:24:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Publius Maximus
I believe Jesus was born during the feast of tabernacles and this is supported by simply doing the math from statements in the Bible.

It begins here.....Luke 1:5 In the days of Herod, the king of Judea, there was a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abijah. And his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.

Unfortunately our lazy and un-educated church leaders today would rather have us go down the road of Babylonian pagan worship than do some real instruction in what the Word of God has taught us.

12 posted on 09/17/2012 5:26:13 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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sfl


13 posted on 09/17/2012 5:42:05 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: GoDuke

sfl


14 posted on 09/17/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: wesagain

“historians have suggested Islam’s beginnings are found in the Persian religion Zoroastrianism”

The Islamic Pig-People have all but destroyed Zoroastrianism but other than that, I’ve never seen an Islamic reference to Zoroastrianism. If I recall correctly, the references in the Koran are always Judeo-Christian.

I know there are historians who think the concept of Satan came from the Zoroastrians but beyond that, I’ve never heard suggestions of other influence.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 5:47:59 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Insulting" Islam is as impossible as casting aspersions on a pile of dog crap.)
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To: wesagain

This is the cult of the Queen of Heaven spoken of in Jeremiah 44... the queen of heaven is the moon. Allah was, and is, the “god” of the moon. That is why the Muslims worship the moon rock in Saudi Arabia.

Just as Allah is simply the devil under a different name, the moon has no light of its own... only what it can reflect from the Sun.


16 posted on 09/17/2012 5:49:11 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: circlecity

LOL! Sounds familiar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

“Plese allow me to introduce myself......”


17 posted on 09/17/2012 5:53:17 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: ETL

In Israel it is called the “red/green alliance” - marxists and islamists.


18 posted on 09/17/2012 5:56:53 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: wesagain

god of violence and revolution => kill, steal and destroy.


19 posted on 09/17/2012 5:59:19 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: vanilla swirl

>>However, to convince the rest of the world requires the intervention of the Holy Spirit to remove the scales from their eyes.

I agree with you and I’ve done a lot of prayer and thought on this. So what put the scales in front of our eyes? What was the event in the history of Christianity that put them there? We were on track. Christ had risen and the Way was flourishing, but then a couple centuries later, a corrupted version of scripture arose from the desert that would plague us for at least 1400 years (and counting). In the Old Testament, punishment followed falling away or the turn to idolatry. What did we do, and what must we do to repent and turn back to the right path? This isn’t going to take some easy fix like banning contemporary worship music or wearing suits and dresses to church (as some have told me). This is a 1400 year old curse on humanity!


20 posted on 09/17/2012 6:02:47 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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