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African-American Christians waver over vote
The Longview Daily News / The Associated Press ^ | September 16, 2012

Posted on 09/16/2012 1:15:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Some black clergy see no good presidential choice between a Mormon candidate and one who supports gay marriage, so they are telling their flocks to stay home on Election Day. That's a worrisome message for the nation's first African-American president, who can't afford to lose any voters from his base in a tight race.

The pastors say their congregants are asking how a true Christian could back same-sex marriage, as President Barack Obama did in May. As for Republican Mitt Romney, the first Mormon nominee from a major party, congregants are questioning the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its former ban on men of African descent in the priesthood....

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bhohomosexualagenda; blackchurch; blacks; blackvote; christianity; christians; christianvote; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; obama; romney; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 09/16/2012 1:15:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama supports gay marriage and taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth.

Romney opposes both.

There is no way for a self proclaimed “christian” to justify voting for Obama.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 1:20:37 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take it, though I would prefer conservative blacks wake up and leave the Dem Party.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 1:21:56 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney's Mormon beliefs are just that and he's entitled to believe whatever he wants. His Church changed their position on blacks getting the priesthood in 1978 and they discriminate against no one.

Obama not only believes in the gay agenda but has acted on it, even refusing to protect existing law, such as the DOMA.

Romney has personal religious beliefs and Obama acts against the law. Big difference.

4 posted on 09/16/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Black voters choose their party over their God?


5 posted on 09/16/2012 1:28:15 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Will Black voters choose their party over their God?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s time to decide which means more: your skin color or your Lord.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 1:31:30 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How about the difference between one that supports life, and one that will allow the brains to be sucked out of a fetus's head, and will allow failed abortions to just die?

Sounds like these African-American "Christians" aren't thinking this through very well, or else they aren't so "Christian" after all.

7 posted on 09/16/2012 1:31:33 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Lexington Green

To answer your question - YES, they will choose their party over God. Haven’t their voting patterns shown you the answer to this?


8 posted on 09/16/2012 1:31:34 PM PDT by Catsrus
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The candidate with the fewest number of supporters who just “stay home” for this election will win. We can’t let that be us.


9 posted on 09/16/2012 1:32:20 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some black clergy see no good presidential choice between a Mormon candidate and one who supports gay marriage, so they are telling their flocks to stay home on Election Day. That’s a worrisome message for the nation’s first African-American president, who can’t afford to lose any voters from his base in a tight race.

So Obama’s “base” is a race (black people)? Gee that is not racist at all!


10 posted on 09/16/2012 1:34:01 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Unfortunately, to many blacks such as Santita Jackson, Obama is the Lord.


11 posted on 09/16/2012 1:34:41 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MNJohnnie

Nice qualifiers you applied to Romney there.
I supposed it is a way to justify his positions.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 1:36:29 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Great statement! AMEN!!!


13 posted on 09/16/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: svcw
Nice refusal to acknowledge the truth so you can keep rationalizing your support for Obama.

How about you try dealing in truth and fact from this point forward? How about you try getting over your sour grapes because your candidate of choice did not win the GOP nomination?

14 posted on 09/16/2012 1:41:52 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Nice try, same old tired boring song...really get something new.

Romney supports abortion - you qualified by making sure you said “not tax payer funded”

Romney supports homosexual unions and adoption - you qualified by making sure you said “marriage”.

No matter how you spin it you added qualifiers.


15 posted on 09/16/2012 1:52:04 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
congregants are questioning the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its former ban on men of African descent in the priesthood....

If they can't forgive the Mormon church for its past sins, how can they consider themselves Christian?

16 posted on 09/16/2012 1:53:02 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: MNJohnnie; svcw
your support for Obama.

You have been warned repeatedly by Mr. Robinson about brow-beating and harassing conservative freepers by calling them Obama supporters. You run away for a bit and come back again with the same schtick.

svcw is right. Romney has been marketed as "ABO". A lot of people who come to this forum are going to vote for him as just that - ABO. No need to bullshi-ite people by proclaiming that he is pro-life and pro-traditional marriage. He has yet to prove that. Everybody here knows his record.

17 posted on 09/16/2012 1:56:22 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you honestly believe that the African American church community will not turn out just as much if not more for this election as they did in 2008, I think you will be surprised. Rev. Jesse, Rev. Al, Brother Charlie, Brother Elijah and maybe Sister Hillary have 6 weeks to paint the Organizer in Chief as the latest example of “whitey” trying to keep a brother down and they will flock to the polls. I would not be surprised to see a tearful and supposedly remorseful Obama show up at Dr. King's church confessin’ and witnessin’ all about his God. Of course it will be a sham but the undecided black church needs an excuse to vote for him. There may be at the most a 5% drop in black voter turnout since there is a remnant (God always has a remnant) that understand just how NON Christian this Alinskyite has been since his indoctrination in the Indonesian school. He has numerously referred to collective salvation. Glad mine was personal. I imagine the line will back up billions deep at the gates of Hell where collective salvation will be rewarded.
Make no mistake: the rule of thumb with the black vote is, First, color; second DemocRat (no matter how evil or degenerate), third, keep the pay window open. Somewhere around 8th or 9th they will finally get around to their religious filter but will have voted for Eric Holder's people's President by then. It will be the after thought as they leave the polling place.

It's sad to think in about 5 years the black community will be 1/3 the size of the Hispanic community. They lose more political clout with every passing year and then I don't remember the news bulletin from the NAALCP touting about how their numbers are swelling with a huge influx of Hispanics.

18 posted on 09/16/2012 1:56:51 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: svcw

Very well just cling to your emotion based ignorance. Anyone who cannot see the fundamental difference between Romney and Obama has simply weld their mind shut and refused to look


19 posted on 09/16/2012 1:57:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Moorings

Obama favors Gay Marriage and Taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth. He specifically had both positions written into the 2012 Democrat Party platform

Romney opposes both. Sorry Romney is not perfectly pure enough for you but anyone who cannot see the deep fundamental difference between the two is simply NOT looking.

Sorry your candidate of choice did not win the 2012 GOP nomination. Get over it.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 2:00:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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