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To: wideawake

What’s troubling is that many Calvinists who talk about grace don’t really understand it, scripturally.

I’ve met a significant number of Calvinists whose testimony is essentially, “One day, I just realised I was part of the elect” - and that is the basis of their claim to salvation. Nothing about repentance. Nothing about calling upon the Lord.

People who believe that way are sorely deluded and still lost in their sins.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 9:36:04 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Your post illustrates a key point.

We are saved by grace through faith.

In Calvinism, these are conditional upon election, so we are saved by election.

This is quite different.


54 posted on 06/21/2012 12:24:54 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
I’ve met a significant number of Calvinists whose testimony is essentially, “One day, I just realised I was part of the elect” - and that is the basis of their claim to salvation. Nothing about repentance. Nothing about calling upon the Lord.

You mean that you cannot declare self salvation and make it stick? Dearie me. Whatever will our Calvinist and OSAS friends do now?

95 posted on 06/21/2012 6:29:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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