Posted on 04/20/2012 7:40:01 PM PDT by marshmallow
(Reuters) - When Pope John Paul II arrived in the United States in 1979, the president of the nation's most powerful organization of nuns met him with a challenge. In a bold welcoming address, Sister Theresa Kane called on the pope to include women "in all ministries of our church," including the priesthood. The pope sat silent, his expression stony.
That moment did not change Vatican policy.
But it unveiled growing tensions between the Vatican and American nuns. The conflict would continue to mount for the next three decades, until this week the Vatican finally moved to reassert control over the aging but still ferociously independent conference of Catholic sisters.
In a stinging "doctrinal assessment," the Vatican accused the Leadership Conference of Women Religious - an umbrella group representing most American nuns - of numerous grave breaches of doctrine and decorum.
The report, four years in the making, found that the nuns promoted political views at odds with those expressed by U.S. Roman Catholic bishops, "who are the church's authentic teachers of faith and morals." The Vatican chastised the nuns for airing discussions about the ordination of women, the church patriarchy and ministry to gay people.
The Vatican also rebuked the nuns for spending too much time "promoting issues of social justice" while failing to speak out often enough about "issues of crucial importance to the life of the church and society," such as abortion and gay marriage.
Determined to cleanse the sisterhood of "radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith," the Vatican appointed Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle to effectively take control of the Leadership Conference, rewriting its statutes, supervising its meetings, and investigating its relationships with politically active groups.
Officials of the nuns' leadership conference said they were "stunned" by the crackdown. But Catholics who have........
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Just yank their mandate. It came form Rome in the first place in those heady days after Vatican II when nuns were allowed to have a more active role. Many of them got into the heads that they were updated version of Teresa of Avila, but they began to talk more like Emma Goldberg. They totally lost sight of the meaning of the Gospel, and turned to politics to achieve an earthly kingdom.
The nuns in the article obviously did not behave as you suggest.
My trapezius muscles can attest to the strength of a 75-year-old Sister of Providence.
I meant socialism in the sense that planning is centralized and everyones production is shared by the group as a whole. I was speaking in theory where everyone joins and participates voluntarily.
What you are describing is probably the reality where people are kept as virtual slaves or farm animals, working and producing for the benefit of the elites.
what would be worse than having a woman priest?
A wiminpriest type priest who supports abortion, euthanasia, same sex marriage, and teaches enneagrams and channeling spirits...
Translation: "QUIT BEIN' A ******* BUNCH OF LIBERAL LEFTIST *****!!!!!"
guess I’ve never come across one of them.........
guess I’ve never come across one of them.........
That's the first time I've ever heard a Protestant say that. I wonder if it's true for other Protestants. I'm a Catholic and go along with your Scriptural thinking.
Lol. Great comment and analogy.
Leni
The Vatican also rebuked the nuns for spending too much time “promoting issues of social justice” while failing to speak out often enough about “issues of crucial importance to the life of the church and society,” such as abortion and gay marriage.
There was no such rebuke. This is the lie the media is using to bash the Church with.
“As a Catholic woman, I can’t imagine much that would be worse than having a woman priest.”
A woman bishop. That would be worse! :)
——or a woman Pope-——
You wrote:
“So, in the early church, women acted as teachers, leaders, and apostles.”
False. No woman was ever an apostle except as an honorific for their zeal for the faith. No woman led an orthodox church either. By the way, some scholars believe “Junia” is actually “Junianus”. In any case Andronicus and Junia[nus] were apostles in the sense of Phil 2:25, 2 Cor 8:23 where the word is translated as “messengers”.
Don’t give me nightmares!
I think you can sleep peacefully—at least for a while—LOL!
pedophiles occur in every profession, and the dirty little secret is back in the 1970’s professionals like myself were told not to report it because it wasn’t bad for kids... child abusers in California were take out of prison and given “outpatient” treatment, and Newsweek had an article saying we shouldn’t report fathers who have sex with their young daughters because if he went to jail, it would destroy the family.
Blame the Johns Hopkins sex abuse treatment program that encouraged “treatment” not removal of the priests...
and the rate of child sexual abuse is high enough to suggest it isn’t only priests: There is a cdc report where 10 percent of “hetero” kids and 18 percent of “homosexual” kids had sexual intercourse under age 13. Needless to say, that report hasn’t made it into the mainstream media.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6007a1.htm?s_cid=ss6007a1_x
Father Pfleger has been transferred elsewhere, so he is being corrected (and he may or may not obey). However, Pfleger isn’t promoting transhumanism and evolving to a higher power in his church, just leftism...
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