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Catholic Pastor Applauded for Shunning Anti-gay Marriage Drive
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 4/17/12 | Joel Connelly

Posted on 04/18/2012 8:32:48 AM PDT by marshmallow

The congregation at Seattle’s Our Lady of the Lake Catholic Church gave the Rev. Tim Clark a standing ovation Sunday when he announced that the parish would not gather signatures for a referendum to repeal same-sex marriage.

The parish became the sixth in Seattle to opt out of the petition drive for Referendum 74 that has been endorsed and foisted on parishes by Archbishop J. Peter Sartain.

“I am happy to report that Our Lady of the Lake parish-oners have been overwhelmingly and, thus far, unanimously supportive of the decision I made NOT to gather signatures in support of this Referendum,” Clark wrote in response to an e-mail.

“The standing ovation experienced during one of the Masses says less about me and much more about the health of this parish. I only wished the archbishop could have experienced the sustained applause — the ‘sensus fidelium’ — of the people. He needs to listen to this ‘voice.’ That is my prayer.”

Other parishes to shun the signature drive have includes St. James Cathedral, St. Joseph Church, St. Mary’s Church, St. Patrick Church and Christ Our Hope Catholic Church.

In several parishes, pastors have said that gathering signatures against marriage equality would, in the words of the Rev. Michael Ryan of St. James Cathedral, “prove hurtful and seriously divisive in our community.”

Archbishop Sartain, in a letter that Clark will place in his parish bulletin next week, asked the Catholic faithful in Western Washington to support Referendum 74.

Opponents of marriage equality need to gather 120,577 valid voter signatures by June 6 to block the state’s new same-sex marriage law from taking effect and put the issue on November’s ballot.

The archbishop said that all persons “should be treated with respect, sensitivity and love,” but reiterated church teachings on sexuality that are............

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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The parish became the sixth in Seattle to opt out of the petition drive for Referendum 74 that has been endorsed and foisted on parishes by Archbishop J. Peter Sartain.

"Foisted" by the mean, dictatorial Archbishop. Just in case you haven't made up your mind about this thing.

The lavender mafia is still active and assertive in Seattle, it would appear. The move to repeal Referendum 74 certainly got them out into the open.

Your move, bishop.

1 posted on 04/18/2012 8:32:56 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
James 4:4
2 posted on 04/18/2012 8:36:03 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: marshmallow
The standing ovation experienced during one of the Masses says less about me and much more about the health of this parish.

It certainly does, Rev. And its terminal.

3 posted on 04/18/2012 8:36:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: marshmallow

“Your move, bishop.”

Yup. Gives the bishop a chance to show everyone just how big a deal he thinks it is or not. He did good for doing it in the first place, but the six parishes are also sending a message to all the others.

Freegards


4 posted on 04/18/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

Unreal. Can entire congregations be ecommunicated?


5 posted on 04/18/2012 8:42:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marshmallow

Time to remove those 6 parish priests. Where do you think the next sex scandal is going to come from? Leading your flock to hell “Priest”, now That you are going to have to answer for.


6 posted on 04/18/2012 8:43:14 AM PDT by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: marshmallow

Go form your own church, ya lazy dopes.


7 posted on 04/18/2012 8:48:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: skeeter

: ) well put. Any kind of cheering or clapping in a Church where Jesus is present in the Eucharist is never a good idea. AND This freakin article says “Opponents of marriage equality” what is that bull s### two dudes cannot marry under God. Same with girls. That will never change.


8 posted on 04/18/2012 8:50:20 AM PDT by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: thesaleboat
Where do you think the next sex scandal is going to come from?

Same place the last one came from: faggots with access to boys.

9 posted on 04/18/2012 8:51:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marshmallow
I am very saddened to report that the schools have done their job on our grandkids. I picked up some of the petitions thinking I could get ALL my immediate family to sign the petitions. Didn't happen. My grandchildren believe in the equal rights mantra.

Lord forgive me for I did not teach them well. :-(

10 posted on 04/18/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: marshmallow
“The standing ovation experienced during one of the Masses says less about me and much more about the health of this parish. I only wished the archbishop could have experienced the sustained applause — the ‘sensus fidelium’ — of the people. He needs to listen to this ‘voice.’ That is my prayer.”

Uh, ok. So according to this heretic, Catholic dogma is now subject to popular consent?

11 posted on 04/18/2012 9:02:33 AM PDT by montag813
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To: marshmallow

I will applaud him too - if perhaps he did not advocate for Obamacare, if he declines to register voters in the church, if he indeed shows some good church-state principles.


12 posted on 04/18/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: marshmallow

Take that God.. We know better then you........ Or at least these Catholic Churches seem to believe.............


13 posted on 04/18/2012 9:09:36 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: marshmallow

Lord,
in your love for the Church,
you provide bishops, priests and deacons
as shepherds for your people,
and you call men and women to leave all things
to serve you joyfully in religious life.

May those whom you have raised up
as servants of the Gospel and ministers for your altars
show forth dedication and compassion.

May those whom you have chosen to serve you as religious
provide by their way of life
a convincing sign of your kingdom
for the Church and the whole world.

We ask this through Christ our Lord.
Amen.
____________________
A prayer with a partial indulgence available.


14 posted on 04/18/2012 9:16:59 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: montag813

>>>Uh, ok. So according to this heretic, Catholic dogma is now subject to popular consent? >>>

You’re right on both counts: He IS a heretic, and Catholic dogma cannot be made up by popular consent.

These priests need to be defrocked.


15 posted on 04/18/2012 9:21:42 AM PDT by kitkat (Obama, ROPE and CHAINS.)
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To: marshmallow

The bishop needs to remove all six of them. Tolerating this stuff just lets it fester.

When Cardinal O’Connor was still with us in New York, he would write a letter that was supposed to be read from the pulpit at every church on Pro-Life Sunday. You could tell all you needed to know about a particular church by whether or not the priest read the letter.

Unfortunately, O’Connor never followed up on his orders, so there was no punishment. That lets these dissidents think they can get away with it. Seeing them get away with it corrupts more people and has a terrible effect on the whole diocese. That’s why New York Catholics cheerfully vote for pro-abortion politicians.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 9:32:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow
"Opponents of marriage equality need to gather 120,577 valid voter signatures by June 6 to block the state’s new same-sex marriage law from taking effect and put the issue on November’s ballot."

Interesting! So they are are afraid of a vote instead of a small amount of legislators. Gee! I wonder why? Liberal California and Massachusetts had a vote for this form of same sex but was voted down. Now NY knew not to allow the voters but the people in the capital decided. My brother who lives in Ny was very upset.

All it is about is the people voting on the issue. Why would the parish members not want an open vote for november. What is democracy? I know bills are passed in each state capital but why not a vote on this hot issue by the people directly.

17 posted on 04/18/2012 9:38:00 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: marshmallow

“In several parishes, pastors have said that gathering signatures against marriage equality would, in the words of the Rev. Michael Ryan of St. James Cathedral, ‘prove hurtful and seriously divisive in our community.’ “

I am sure the same charges were levied against Christ Himself.


18 posted on 04/18/2012 10:16:50 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: johngrace
Interesting! So they are are afraid of a vote instead of a small amount of legislators. Gee! I wonder why? Liberal California and Massachusetts had a vote for this form of same sex but was voted down. Now NY knew not to allow the voters but the people in the capital decided.

"In Massachusetts today the freedom to marry is secure," said Gov. Deval Patrick, who lobbied state lawmakers to defeat the measure. Opponents of same-sex marriage fell five votes short of the 50 votes needed to put the issue before voters in 2008".

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3278497&page=1

19 posted on 04/18/2012 10:25:42 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: skeeter

Hopefully the Bishop will sideline these priests and temporarily close their parishess.


20 posted on 04/18/2012 10:28:07 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thesaleboat

They are not obeying their vows of teaching the faith, celibacy and obedience, are they.


21 posted on 04/18/2012 10:29:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut

And Romney was in favor of it!

Sickening!


22 posted on 04/18/2012 10:32:19 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
God's opinion on the matter:

 
Marriage = One Man and One Woman
Til' Death Do Us Part

23 posted on 04/18/2012 10:33:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
"Foisted" by the mean, dictatorial Archbishop. Just in case you haven't made up your mind about this thing. The lavender mafia is still active and assertive in Seattle, it would appear. The move to repeal Referendum 74 certainly got them out into the open.

Your move, bishop.


24 posted on 04/18/2012 10:54:37 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: marshmallow; Chode

25 posted on 04/18/2012 11:22:19 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Salvation

He supported a state constitutional amendment defining marriage as being between a man and a woman, like OH, VA, FL, etc. now have. A constitutional convention was called and the liberal legislature prevented the amendment from appearing on the ballot (for fear that it would pass). It was disappointing, to say the least.


26 posted on 04/18/2012 11:41:13 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Sad!


27 posted on 04/18/2012 6:30:58 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: marshmallow; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; ...
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28 posted on 04/18/2012 7:46:18 PM PDT by narses
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To: marshmallow
Every day we get closer to chastisement, IMHO.

Tsunami Inundation Of Seattle (NOAA Simulation)

When the Pope John Paul II was in Fulda, during his visit to Germany (from 15th to 19th November 1980) he was asked some questions by a group of people: one question was about the 3rd secret of Fatima and another one about the "near future" of the Church. One of the people present documented the exchange. Names of witnesses are at the editorial office of the magazine "Vox fidei". Below is reported the part of the text from two questions, published (in Italian) in that magazine (issue #10 - 1981).


Question: "What about the third secret of Fatima? It already should have been published in 1960".
Answer (of the Holy Father): "Due to its shocking content and so as not to allow the global power of communism to interfere with the affairs of the Church, my predecessors gave confidential information in a diplomatic way. In addition, it should be enough for every Christian to know what follows: when you read that oceans will flood whole continents, that millions of men will die very suddenly in a few minutes... if this is known, it isn't really necessary to claim the publication of this secret... Many people want to know it just for curiosity and sensationalism: but they forget that "knowing" involves also responsibility... but they just want to satisfy their own curiosity. This is dangerous when at the same time, they don't want to do anything, saying: "It is useless to do anything to improve the situation!". Then the Pope took the Rosary and said: "Here is the medicine against this illness! Pray, pray and don't question further. Recommend all the rest to Our Lady!".

Question: "How will things go with the Church?".
Answer (of the Holy Father): "We must be ready to face great imminent trials, which could also require the sacrifice of our life for Christ... The trials could be reduced through your and our prayers, but they can't be (anymore) avoided, because a true renewal of the Church can take place only this way... just as it has already occurred many times that the Church rose up again through blood. It won't be different either this time. Let's be strong and let's get ready, having faith in Christ and in his Mother. Let's pray much and often the Holy Rosary".

29 posted on 04/18/2012 8:07:52 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

**Let’s pray much and often the Holy Rosary”.**

AMEN!

At the moment I knew Obama was elected I made a decision to put a daily Rosary on the Daily Readings thread. Many people have come to pray the Rosary because of it......I’m not trying to boast — just encourage more people to say the Rosary daily.


30 posted on 04/18/2012 8:16:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

I attended Our Lady of the Lake Catholic Church for a few months in the early ‘50s. At that time it was full of airdales from the nearby Sand Point NAS. Very conservative.
They are probably spinning in their graves.


31 posted on 04/18/2012 9:32:11 PM PDT by rogator
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Thanks Doc!! Great info! I did not know this!

I was in a coffee cafe with a baptist girl sipping coffee when my audio bible on my Ipad came on Jeremish 31. I did not touch it. We both looked it up. Second coming around the corner.

Also remember Divine Mercy is for the last days as told to St. Faustina by our Lord.

Praise Jesus!

32 posted on 04/19/2012 1:11:44 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Salvation

Amen!


33 posted on 04/19/2012 1:13:00 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I am tired. I meant Jeremiah 31. Good nite! LOL!


34 posted on 04/19/2012 1:14:51 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

usually parishes serve a local area...in cases of very liberal parishes, those who love God usually either decide to join a born again protestant church nearby, attend the SSPX church in their area, or go to another parish.

Change the priest, and they will come back.


35 posted on 04/19/2012 3:09:23 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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