Mary sealed to Heavenly Father by LDS proxy temple rites (Mormon baptism of Mary)

Facebook Utah Lighthouse Ministry ^ | Thursday, April 15, 2010 | Helen Radkey

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

Mary sealed to Heavenly Father by LDS proxy temple rites The Mormon Baptism of Mary, Mother of God

By Helen Radkey

Hail Holy Queen

Mary (the mother of Jesus) was a Jewish woman of Nazareth in Galilee, identified in the New Testament as the wife of Joseph and the mother of Jesus of Nazareth. Christians believe Mary conceived Jesus miraculously by the agency of the Holy Spirit. For twenty centuries, Christians have cherished Mary and given her titles that reflect their love and admiration—such as the Blessed Virgin Mary, Theotokos (Mother of God), Our Lady, and Queen of Heaven. As the most celebrated woman in Christendom, Mary is considered the epitome of virtue by Christians, especially Catholics and Orthodox. Protestants generally perceive Mary as an outstanding example of a life dedicated to God. Over two thousand years after she gave birth to Jesus Christ—who is recognized by Christians and Mormons as the Redeemer of mankind—Mary of Nazareth was offered “eternal salvation” through The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)

Mary, a Mormon by proxy

“Mary Mother of Jesus,” the spouse of “Joseph „of the House of David‟…” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on December 9, 2009 in the Idaho Falls Idaho (LDS) Temple. She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on December 16, 2009; an endowment ceremony on December 26, 2009; and a sealing to parents on January 7, 2010—all rites occurred in the Idaho Falls Idaho Temple.

[AppyPappy]

Say what?

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

ping!

[Linda Frances]

They going to baptize Jesus next? John the Baptist did not mormonize him? These people are so full of themselves.

[Jonty30]

That’s funny.

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

It would be, if it were not: 1) Blasphemy; and 2) representative of the individual the GOP is sending out to challenge Obama in November.

[JOE6PAK]

O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Wait until Milt has the nomination. You’ll learn more about Mormonism than you ever wanted to know.

[bella1]

Yep, but that will be a good thing. The rest of the country will finally be informed on the warped doctrines of the Mormons. It will be ugly.

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

And it will mean Obama’s re-election. But hopefully the GOP can take the House, the Senate, and the majority of Governorships.

[Jonty30]

I agree with your second point, but it’s not really blasphemy as Mary is only human.

But, yeah, stories are going to be coming out of the woodwork on Romney will come out of the woodwork.

[Daniel II]

At this rate, only christians and the holy people of old who have been proxy-baptised into mormonism will get into heaven.

[af_vet_rr]

Wait until Milt has the nomination. You’ll learn more about Mormonism than you ever wanted to know.

I know several Mormons, don't have problems with them as individuals.

On the other hand, I think the religion is just a big scam perpetuated by a bunch of guys who couldn't commit themselves to just one woman. Even though I think it's a scam, I cringe at what the MSM is going to do to them. I'll be glad that more folks know exactly what the Mormon church is built upon, the history and the con artists, but I know it'll just be one more thing the MSM uses against the Republicans to keep Obama in the White House.

The Mormons claim their church has been growing, but I guarantee you that if Willard gets the nomination and the MSM peels back layer upon layer of Mormon doctrine and history, the Mormons will have a hard time finding gullible folks in the future.

And some of the Mormons I know have made it clear that they worry about what the MSM will do to the Mormon church.

[af_vet_rr]

And the MSM will make sure and talk about all of the folks that have been baptized, and they will put an emphasis on all of the Jews that died in the Holocaust.

[johngrace]

[NorthernCrunchyCon]

I understand where you are coming from, but I would consider it blasphemy for this reason:

Mary is no ordinary human. She may not be God, but she is nevertheless the Mother of God in that it is from her flesh that God took His humanity. Moreover, Mary is the first Christian in that she is the first human to receive and accept Christ. Therefore, by attacking Mary one also attacks (at least indirectly) Our Lord Jesus Christ. For one is saying that Christ either failed to provide His mother with the necessary means for her salvation, or one is saying that the means provided to Mary by Jesus were insufficient.

[blackpacific]

You can’t make The Queen a subject to any human nonsense.

I am curious who the people are who “did” this and where they are now?

[Terry Mross]

Great song about Mary written by Mark Lowry. This version by Kathy Mattea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I597YUXw1E

[redhead]

"O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee."

Amen. As a member of the Militia Immaculata, this is incredibly offensive. Holy Mother of God, Blessed Theotokos, pray for us, who turn to thee.

[terycarl]

I’m certain that she will be highly impressed.....

[Fred]

If according to MoMo teaching that Jesus became a God, then that would mean Mary is not the Mother of God but the mother of a man named Jesus... (Note am not referring to RC teaching here1!!)

[svcw]

They already have, as well as his many wives.

[Fiji Hill]

They ought to baptize Mohammed—and then watch what happens.

[Sundog]

Damn crazy day in America when we’re much more inclined to carefully respect the religion of Mohammed than the one ushered in by Joseph Smith.

[stpio]

This is insane, how could it be happening again? Jesus Mercy.

Jan. 11, 2008/ Pertinent archived message

message to M. Tague

GOD THE FATHER spoke:

“Not one of the candidates running for president of your country- - U.S.A. - - is truly of Me! One is a Mormon and one is a Muslim- -neither are Christians. The others all break My Commandments especially ‘THOU SHALT NOT KILL.’ They believe in same-sex unions which is NOT a marriage!!! I told you, ‘ONE MAN FOR ONE WOMAN!...

Yahoo Groups ~ archives at Seers 2

[Seabeejas]

I am Roman Catholic. This could only bother me if I gave some validity to the Mormon faith. I don’t. Therefore it simply seems a silly thing for them to do.

[Campion]

it’s not really blasphemy as Mary is only human.

It's pretty arrogant, though. The LDS think the true church disappeared after the death of the last apostle. Do they seriously think that Mary, of all people, wasn't already baptized by then?

This sort of thing only makes sense if the LDS really believe that the true church never existed on earth until Joseph Smith.

[bella1]

It will be a rare occasion for me that I will agree with the MSM, but in the name of truth it needs to be done.

[Jonty30]

It is not only arrogant, it is also questioning God’s character and ability.

They would have to make the claim that didn’t know what he was doing when Christ walked the earth.

[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[reaganaut]

They also baptized, endowed, and sealed (married) Jesus Christ to several women.

Which is interesting since Mormon leaders have taught that the temple rites they perform are the SAME rites that existed in the Temple of Solomon. So why wouldn’t Jesus have had his ‘saving ordinances’ while he was still alive?

See my tagline if you are wonder where I stand on this issue.

[reaganaut]

Which level of Heaven? Mormons have 3 (only one has God the Father though and guarantees progression to godhood for the Mormons), and everyone except ‘sons [and daughters] of Perdition’ like me who have left Mormonism goes to one of the levels, even Charlie Manson and Hitler.

As for me and other ex-mormons, they don’t have Hell, but rather the ultimate deep freeze called ‘outer darkness’.

[reaganaut]

The Mormons claim their church has been growing,

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That is a falsehood. The LDS church is actually losing more members then they are bringing in and have been for almost 20 years.

However, not everyone who leaves goes through the hassle of ‘name removal’ (a long drawn out resignation process) so they are still counted as members.

Of the supposed 14 million LDS, only about 5 million worldwide actually attend the LDS church and believe in it.

[reaganaut]

If according to MoMo teaching that Jesus became a God, then that would mean Mary is not the Mother of God but the mother of a man named Jesus... (Note am not referring to RC teaching here1!!)

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I can see where you are coming from. However the LDS don’t state that. They do state that Mary is one of Heavenly Fathers polygamist wives (as well as his ‘spirit daughter’).

Some quotes from Mormon leaders...

The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful Wife, because it would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He overshadowed her or begat the Savior unlawfully. (Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 158)

Inasmuch as God was the first husband to her, it may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in the mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity. (Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 158)

The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 11:268)

I’ve got more quotes but I won’t bother to post them.

[Colofornian]

I am Roman Catholic. This could only bother me if I gave some validity to the Mormon faith. I don’t. Therefore it simply seems a silly thing for them to do.

Allow me to give what I think is a comparable analogy:

Let's say your mom is deceased.

Let's say the people down her street where she lived were into the occult...seances...communicating with the so-called "dead..." (who are often, I believe, demons & familiar spirits masquerading as the "dead")...

Let's say they "conjure" up the supposed "spirit" of your deceased mom...

And supposedly have a lengthy "convo" with the alleged "spirit" of your deceased mom...

And a DVD; an audio tape; a transcript is circulated which depicts some things that reputationally you don't want associated with your deceased mom.

Your conclusion? "This could only bother" you "if" you "gave some validity to" the occult & seances & communicating with the dead. But since you "don't," this would "simply seem a silly thing for them to do."

[greyfoxx39]

Which is interesting since Mormon leaders have taught that the temple rites they perform are the SAME rites that existed in the Temple of Solomon. So why wouldn’t Jesus have had his ‘saving ordinances’ while he was still alive?

Pshaw! You were mormon long enough to learn that the only "right" way is the mormon way. That's why the Christian creeds, God and Savior must be destroyed and replaced by the mormon creed, god and savior.

[reaganaut]

the only “right” way is the mormon way. That’s why the Christian creeds, God and Savior must be destroyed and replaced by the mormon creed, god and savior.

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True. But it makes you wonder since they claim the Temple in the NT had the same rites and wasn’t yet apostate, why do they need to do the work for people who would have had the rituals then?

Another problem for Mormons.

[tomkat]

Lunatics

[reaganaut]

I see it more as desecrating or urinating on a grave.

[MHGinTN]

I'm sure Catholics will do the following when this gets out:
"So the LDS inc religion that Milt Romney professes and supports to the tune of millions of dollars of his money has declared that the Mary to whom and from whom we exhort in our prayers was not yet worthy to be the object of our adoration? Forget them!"

[Daniel II]

Ah, right. Celestial heaven, terrestrial heaven, etc.

I was thinking more on the lines of that South Park episode.

Question: “So ... Who gets into heaven?”

Answer: “Mormons ... yes, Mormon is the correct answer.”

Awwww!!!

[reaganaut]

Well since for Mormons the only ‘real’ heaven is exaltation (godhood) in the Celestial Kingdom, then yeah only Mormons go to heaven.

It is interesting that Mormons are exclusivists and universalists at the same time.

[af_vet_rr]

It will be a rare occasion for me that I will agree with the MSM, but in the name of truth it needs to be done.

Same here. Once the MSM is done with their "religion", most Mormons will regret ever supporting Willard.

If, God forbids, Willard gets the nomination, his handlers can coach him all they want, but they aren't going to be able to prepare him for all of the "gotcha" questions about the Mormon church. And Willard won't have nearly enough money or backers to counter-act all of the news reports that look into all aspects of the Mormon church.

He will be asked things like whether he views the head of his church as a prophet of God (he does), and what would happen if that "prophet" of God has a revelation and requires Willard to use his power as the President to carry it out. And he will be grilled mercilessly about why the Mormon church was so incredibly racist up until the end of the 1970s. There are so many more questions...

It's just a shame that they will be asked only if Willard gets the nomination, since he is so unelectable on so many levels, and not just because of his magic underwear.

[stpio]

The more I read of Mormonism, there’s so much more than the
fact they’re not Trinitarian. Joseph Smith was into Freemasonry.

And how ridiculous, thinking no one notices the institution
of Mormonism happened in the 1820s. Put two and two together.

God knows and warns. Pray, pray, pray. I post a message to a Catholic seer who was given the cross to receive many dire messages. Louise had a special devotion to Divine Mercy. She died last year on the Feast of Divine Mercy.

Our nation needs a Christian moral 100% for life president.
How come so called conservatives can recognize BHO for
who he is and fail not seeing the same about Romney?

2007 Message to Louise Tomkiel

Message to Louise August 13, 2007
HYPERCRITICAL——
AUGUST 13, 2008- - -3:10 a.m.
L. began to receive a message from God and said, “Jesus,
please cover me with your Most Precious Blood.”
Then your God spoke, “CHILDREN, LISTEN TO ME!!!!
Select your candidate in much prayer for if you put a
certain party up for election for your next president
you will have a religious war and Martial Law. This
person claims to have faith in the ‘one true church’
which, I tell you, is a false cult founded on lies by a
very sick man.
My Church and all Christians will be sought out and
punished unto death! DO NOT CHOOSE EVIL MEN TO
RULE YOUR COUNTRY!!!
Michael and his Legions of Warrior Angels will assist
My own although many will die for your faith. Remain
faithful to the end My dear ones for Heaven eternal
awaits you.
Live in Truth. Live Love. Forgive all. Pray. I WILL give
you abundant strength. This will be the devil’s great
hour. Fear not but live on in My Great Love. My
blessings to you all! Amen.”

NOTE: Candidate’s initial - - -M.R.

---

[The only candidate in the last election and in this one with these initials is Mitt Romney. He is a Mormon which was recently described as a cult.]Mercy. She died last year on the Feast of Divine Mercy.

~ ~ ~

archived message to Louise Tomkiel

Message #32660 - Yahoo Groups - Seers2

[narses]

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

[trisham]

Beautiful.

[Colofornian]

Question: “So ... Who gets into heaven?” Answer: “Mormons ... yes, Mormon is the correct answer.”

Mormon afterlife "issues" are many & great.

The three most significant ones (IMO) are...
...the lie that some Mormons will become gods
...that you need to work your way there
...and that the Mormon god is a different god -- and, as it especially pertains to our discussion -- that most people won't even live with Heavenly Father forever per Mormonism!

Mormons say only MARRIED, temple recommended Lds get to live in the celestial kingdom. And they would be the ONLY ones able to live with Heavenly Father.

The rest of Christians & any proxy baptism accepters get locked out from being reconciled to Heavenly Father.

My question? What's an alleged "heaven" where God the Father isn't?

[Seabeejas]

Sorry I took so long to acknowledge your comment. We were at Mass and then we visit people at the hospital. I think your analogy is rather tortured. I see where you are attempting to go, but I still can’t agree with giving credence to people I think are goofy, wether they are Mormon or otherwise.

[Monkey Face]

Whatacrock. Shouldn’t even be a thought in anybody’s mind. *sheesh*