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Priest: removal from ministry was tied to communion incident (Catholic Caucus)
Life Site News ^ | March 14, 2012

Posted on 03/14/2012 3:37:58 PM PDT by NYer

Fr. Marcel Guarnizo

Washington D.C., Mar 14, 2012 / 01:25 pm (CNA).- In an extensive statement provided to CNA, Father Marcel Guarnizo insists that the reasons the Archdiocese of Washington placed him on leave “have everything to do” with his recent decision to withhold communion from Barbara Johnson.

Fr. Guarnizo explains that he decided to issue the detailed March 14 statement because of the questions his parishioners and the public are asking about the recent incident.

His response, which is published below, offers corrections to previous news reports, responds to canonical arguments and gives information about where the allegations of intimidation came from.

Fr. Marcel Guarnizo’s Response to the Eucharistic Incident

I would like to begin by once again sending my condolences to the Johnson family on the death of Mrs. Loetta Johnson.

I also feel obliged to answer questions from my parishioners, as well as from the public, about the incident on February 25th.

Here are the facts:  On Saturday February 25th I showed up to officiate at a funeral Mass for Mrs. Loetta Johnson. The arrangements for the Mass were also not my own. I wish to clarify that Ms. Barbara Johnson (the woman who has since complained to the press), has never been a parishioner of mine. In fact I had never met her or her family until that morning.

The funeral celebration was to commence at 10:30a.m. From 9:30 to 10:20, I was assigned to hear confessions for the parish and anyone in the funeral party who would have chosen to receive the sacrament.
A few minutes before the Mass began, Ms. Johnson came into the sacristy with another woman whom she announced as her “lover”. Her revelation was completely unsolicited. As I attempted to follow Ms.Johnson, her lover stood in our narrow sacristy physically blocking my pathway to the door. I politely asked her to move and she refused.

I understand and agree it is the policy of the Archdiocese to assume good faith when a Catholic presents himself for communion; like most priests I am not at all eager to withhold communion. But the ideal cannot always be achieved in life.

In the past ten days, many Catholics have referenced canon 915 in regard to this specific circumstance. There are other reasons for denying communion which neither meet the threshold of canon 915 or have any explicit connection to the discipline stated in that canon.

If a Quaker, a Lutheran or a Buddhist, desiring communion had introduced himself as such, before Mass, a priest would be obligated to withhold communion. If someone had shown up in my sacristy drunk, or high on drugs, no communion would have been possible either.  If a Catholic, divorced and remarried (without an annulment) would make that known in my sacristy, they too according to Catholic doctrine, would be impeded from receiving communion. This has nothing to do with canon 915. Ms. Johnson’s circumstances are precisely one of those relations which impede her access to communion according to Catholic teaching. Ms. Johnson was a guest in our parish, not the arbitrer of how sacraments are dispensed in the Catholic Church. 

In all of the above circumstances, I would have been placed in a similar uncomfortable position. Under these circumstances, I quietly withheld communion, so quietly that even the Eucharistic Minister standing four feet from me was not aware I had done so.  (In fact Ms. Johnson promptly chose to go to the Eucharistic minister to receive communion and did so.) There was no scandal, no “public reprimand” and no small lecture as some have reported.

Details matter. Ms. Johnson was not kneeling when she approached for communion, she did not receive the cup as the press has reported she has stated. It is the policy of St. John Neumann parish never to distribute under both species during funerals.

During the two eulogies (nearly 25 minutes long), I quietly slipped for some minutes into the sacristy lavatory to recover from the migraine that was coming on. I never walked out on Mrs. Loetta Johnson’s funeral and the liturgy was carried out with the same reverence and care that I celebrate every Mass. I finished the Mass and accompanied the body of the deceased in formal procession to the hearse, which was headed to the cemetery. I am subject to occasional severe migraines, and because the pain at that point was becoming disabling, I communicated to our funeral director that I was incapacitated and he arranged one of my brother priests to be present at the cemetery to preside over the rite of burial. Furthermore as the testimony of the priest that was at the cemetery conveys, he was present when the Johnson family arrived, and in fact mentioned that being called to cover the burial rite is quite normal, as many priests for reasons much less significant than mine (rush hour traffic for example) do not make the voyage to the cemetery. He routinely covers for them. This change in plans, was also invisible to the rest of the entourage. Regrets and information about my incapacitating migraine were duly conveyed to the Johnson family.

I have thanked the funeral director and the priest at the burial site, for their assistance that day. Mrs. Loetta Johnson was properly buried with every witness and ceremony a Catholic funeral can offer. I did not and would not refuse to accompany Barbara Johnson and her mother to the cemetery because she is gay or lives with a woman. I did not in any way seek to dishonor Mrs. Johnson's memory, and my homily at the funeral should have made that quite evident to all in the pews, including the Johnson family.

I would like to extend again to Ms. Johnson and her family, my sincerest condolences on her mother’s death.  I would never intentionally want or seek to embarrass anyone publicly or increase anyone’s emotional distress during such a difficult time. I did not seek or contrive these circumstances.

But I am going to defend my conduct in these instances, because what happened I believe contains a warning to the church. Such circumstances can and will be repeated multiple times over if the local church does not make clear to all Catholics that openly confessing sin is something one does to a priest in the confessional, not minutes before the Mass in which the Holy Eucharist is given.

I am confident that my own view, that I did the only thing a faithful Catholic priest could do in such an awkward situation, quietly, with no intention to hurt or embarrass, will be upheld.

Otherwise any priest could-and many will-face the cruelest crisis of conscience that can be imposed. It seems to me, the lack of clarity on this most basic issue puts at risk other priests who wish to serve theCatholic Church in Washington D.C.

As to the latest allegations, I feel obliged to alleviate unnecessary suffering for the faithful at St. John Neumann and others who are following the case.

I wish to state that in conversation with Bishop Barry Knestout on the morning of March 13, he made it very clear that the whole of the case regarding the allegations of “intimidation” are circumscribed to two conversations; one with the funeral director and the other with a parish staff member present at the funeral. These conversations took place on March 7th and 8th, one day before the archdiocese’s latest decision to withdraw faculties (not suspend, since Cardinal Wuerl is not my bishop) on the 9th of March. I am fully aware of both meetings. And indeed contrary to the statement read on Sunday March 11th during all Masses at St. John Neumann, both instances have everything to do with the Eucharistic incident. There is no hidden other sin or “intimidation” allegations that they are working on, outside of these two meetings. The meetings in question, occurred in our effort to document from people at the funeral Mass in written form a few facts about the nature of the incident. We have collected more than a few testimonies and affidavits, testifying to what really took place during the funeral liturgy.

My personal conversation with both parties in question were in my view civil, professional and in no way hostile. I respect both individuals in question and really do not know the nature of their grievance.

On March 13, I asked Bishop Knestout about detail on this matter but he stated that he was not at liberty to discuss the matter. I would only add for the record, that the letter removing me from pastoral work in the Archdiocese of Washington, was already signed and sealed and on the table when I met with Bishop Knestout on March 9, even before he asked me the first question about the alleged clash.

In the days to come I look forward to addressing any confusion about the above conversations if the Archdiocese or the persons involved wish to talk about it publicly or privately.

I am grateful for all the good wishes and prayers I have received. And sincerely, having lost my own mother not long ago, I again extend my condolences to the Johnson family. I finally wish for the good of the Universal Church, the archdiocese, my parish and the peace of friends and strangers around the world, that the archdiocese would cease resolving what they call internal personnel matters of which they cannot speak, through the public media.

I remain my bishop’s and my Church’s, and above all Christ Jesus’obedient servant,

Very truly yours,

Father Marcel Guarnizo.

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: eucharist; frguarnizo; guarnizo; holycommunion; homosexualagenda; hoomosexualagenda; lesbians

1 posted on 03/14/2012 3:38:05 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...


2 posted on 03/14/2012 3:38:56 PM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer

Today’s Novus Ordo Church stands for very little.

The Savior must be ashamed of what’s happened to the Church he left on earth!

3 posted on 03/14/2012 3:40:12 PM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: NYer; EdReform; Freee-dame

The Gangster Government Gaystapo is attacking on all fronts.

Even our Holy Communion is just another political weapon for the Gaystapo.

4 posted on 03/14/2012 3:43:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: NYer

Dealing with liberal “catholics” would cause me to have migraines as well...

5 posted on 03/14/2012 3:54:37 PM PDT by MSF BU
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To: NYer

Excellent response!

6 posted on 03/14/2012 4:05:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; NYer
My letter to the bishop, wih copy to Fr.Guarnizo, is HERE (Link)
7 posted on 03/14/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious." George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very good letter. Even as a Protestant I know better than to present myself for the Eucharist at Mass. You are correct, this woman did this to make an issue out of it. She has no respect for the Catholic church or the faith of her mother, or the Eucharist or Christ.

This woman should be appalled and castigated publicly.

8 posted on 03/14/2012 4:29:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Christianity has its 5th column enemies embodied within each dumbed down or liberally educated person.

9 posted on 03/14/2012 4:29:58 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: NYer

GOD bless this man! As someone who considers himself a “failed” Catholic because I recognize I do not always follow the teachings of the church, I will say that I DO NOT present myself for communion because I know I am not worthy because of my own actions or inactions. That said I also know that by asking for forgivness and truly repenting of my sinful ways I would then be welcomed into the communion of Christ. BUT as along as I do not repent I am not suitable to share the body and blood of Christ.

Just saying.

10 posted on 03/14/2012 4:35:07 PM PDT by SPI-Man (Getting dangerously close to being too old to cut the mustard anymore)
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To: reaganaut
You are correct, this woman did this to make an issue out of it

by their fruits, etc: what other groups can we think of that employ agitation and PR in a similar way?

11 posted on 03/14/2012 4:44:18 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If knowledge puffs up, information positively deludes.)
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To: NYer

since he’s probably not an American he doesn’t understand the American male’s ingrained subservience to political correctness. This alone will give him strength.

12 posted on 03/14/2012 4:46:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If knowledge puffs up, information positively deludes.)
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To: NYer

Father should be returned to duty as soon as possible.

13 posted on 03/14/2012 5:06:43 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SPI-Man

Prayers up for you that you will come back to receiving Him.

14 posted on 03/14/2012 5:11:14 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: reaganaut
I was thinking of muslims, but comparisons have been drawn between them and that group, too.


16 posted on 03/14/2012 5:35:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (knowledge puffeth; information deludeth.)
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To: NYer

This is a man whose actions should personify the role of a member of the Catholic clergy as well as it’s laity.

17 posted on 03/14/2012 5:39:31 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: the invisib1e hand

He’s an American and grew up in Virginia. Oddly enough, I read that he has spent much of his priestly career in Russia and the former Soviet states, and had only been in the parish where this incident happened for about a year.

18 posted on 03/14/2012 5:50:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: the invisib1e hand

LOL. I thought of them after I posted.

19 posted on 03/14/2012 5:59:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: NYer; WmShirerAdmirer; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; ...

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

20 posted on 03/14/2012 7:09:31 PM PDT by narses
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Dear Mrs. Don-o,

You're wasting your time with Donna Wuerl and her minion, Barrietta Knestout.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 7:10:56 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
since he’s probably not an American he doesn’t understand the American male’s ingrained subservience to political correctness. This alone will give him strength.

He is an American. He was raised in Virginia. But he has spent a career fighting totalitarianism, atheism, and liberalism. Political correctness is not his practice; speaking direct truth is.

22 posted on 03/14/2012 7:32:27 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: narses

The Bishop was supposed to be at the Maryland March for Life mass celebrated by Cardinal O’Brien in Annapolis Maryland earlier this week. The inside info is that he canceled because he does not want to answer questions on why he suspended the priest. Apparently he is facing some migraine moments as well. A priest in the sacristy for this event was discussing this issue and was shocked and disheartened the priest was suspended.

23 posted on 03/14/2012 7:32:36 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: NYer

The more I read about this, the more intolerable it is. This really needs to be resolved, and quickly.

The auxiliary bishop responsible frankly should be suspended. And Archbishop Wuerl should be the one to do it. Because the longer he waits, the longer he assumes the responsibility for this gross injustice against the priest in question, and this gross undermining of Catholic principles within his diocese.

The Church cannot afford to let itself be manipulated by the gay mafia in this fashion. Do we know if the lesbian in question is even a Catholic any longer?

I wonder if someone should approach the St. Joseph Foundation about this? They could at least give some advice, since I really don’t think this unjust decision should be allowed to stand any longer than absolutely necessary.

It is a horrible scandal for the Church, and an open invitation to more deliberate attacks of the same kind, involving the desecration of the Sacred Host.

24 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Susan Brinkmann blogged about this situation, and in her blog she cites a Washington Post article in which the lesbian is referred to as both a Buddhist & a Catholic. Very bizarre.

25 posted on 03/14/2012 8:08:03 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: NYer

Shame on his Bishop, or on whomever is blocking his immediate reinstatement.

26 posted on 03/14/2012 8:16:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

He never left... The ADW has a shortage of priests to do funerals... Fr. Marcel has full capacity in his own diocese and home parish.

27 posted on 03/14/2012 8:19:29 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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29 posted on 03/14/2012 9:37:54 PM PDT by narses
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To: reaganaut

This Religion Forum thread is labeled “Catholic Caucus” meaning if you are not currently, actively Catholic then do not post on this thread.

30 posted on 03/15/2012 7:48:48 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry, I was invited on the thread by the OP.

31 posted on 03/15/2012 10:05:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Since you were invited by NYer, I will restore your posts.

32 posted on 03/15/2012 10:08:58 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; NYer

I will gladly hit abuse on any of my own posts that appear out of line and you can remove them.

33 posted on 03/15/2012 10:15:32 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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