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Pat Robertson Backs Legalizing Marijuana
Clem Britt/AP ^ | Jesse McKinley

Posted on 03/08/2012 8:30:25 AM PST by AnTiw1

Of the many roles Pat Robertson has assumed over his five-decade-long career as an evangelical leader - including presidential candidate and provocative voice of the right wing - his newest guise may perhaps surprise his followers the most: marijuana legalization advocate.

"I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol," Mr. Robertson said in an interview on Wednesday. "I've never used marijuana and I don't intend to, but it's just one of those things that I think: this war on drugs just hasn't succeeded."

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Mr. Robertson's remarks echoed statements he made last week on "The 700 Club," the signature program of his Christian Broadcasting Network, and other comments he made in 2010. While those earlier remarks were largely dismissed by his followers, Mr. Robertson has now apparently fully embraced the idea of legalizing marijuana, arguing that it is a way to bring down soaring rates of incarceration and reduce the social and financial costs.

"I believe in working with the hearts of people, and not locking them up," he said.

1 posted on 03/08/2012 8:30:29 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

WOW....another Paul-sey druggy.


2 posted on 03/08/2012 8:32:28 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: AnTiw1

3 posted on 03/08/2012 8:35:42 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: AnTiw1

I would do the same thing. It used to be legal. It is a waste of time and resources to put teens or adults in jail. If they want to be idiots, I don’t care.


4 posted on 03/08/2012 8:36:39 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)
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To: AnTiw1

It’s a surprise, but Mr. Robertson is right, and I agree with him. We’ve got bigger problems than pot dealers right now. The FedGov would get far more revenue, and far less criminal activity, if they would just put marijuana enforcement under the BATFE, and legalize the drug. Tax the living snot out of it — like maybe 10x the taxes on tobacco — but not so much that the stoners can’t buy it.


5 posted on 03/08/2012 8:37:37 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: AnTiw1

I’ve never smoked marijuana, nor do I plan to, but I agree that it should be legalized and treated like alcohol....Do we ban alcohol just because some people can’t handle it? I would also however, allow employers to test for it and they should have the right to fire or not to hire those who do use.


6 posted on 03/08/2012 8:39:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: AnTiw1

I’m starting to agree with the idea. If it were taxed, for once liberals would be getting the tax increase.


7 posted on 03/08/2012 8:40:08 AM PST by MNDude
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To: dfwgator

The war on drugs is an bottomless money pit that I am tired of seeing my tax money shoveled into.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 8:41:24 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: G Larry
Job 12:12 Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old.

Psalm 37:30 The godly offer good counsel; they teach right from wrong.

Psalm 107:43 Whoever is wise, let him heed these things and consider the great love of the LORD.


9 posted on 03/08/2012 8:41:24 AM PST by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I would do the same thing. It used to be legal. It is a waste of time and resources to put teens or adults in jail. If they want to be idiots, I don’t care.

I am not for legalizing, but I agree, this is not the answer, to lock up users. The laws need to be reformed.
10 posted on 03/08/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: MNDude

Well if you think there’s a war on drugs now...just wait until the government has a skin in the game.


11 posted on 03/08/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: AnTiw1

Oh here we go, all the Ron Paul pro pot guys are on the way.


12 posted on 03/08/2012 8:44:57 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Vaquero

No, another anti-drug citizen who realizes the war on drugs is far more damaging to non-users than users & suppliers. The war on drugs is lost; stop with the prolific collateral damage already.


13 posted on 03/08/2012 8:45:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Vaquero
WOW....another Paul-sey druggy.

Yep, he's been in deep cover for the past several decades.

14 posted on 03/08/2012 8:47:08 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Vaquero; ctdonath2
The FR Drug Warriors have said so many clinically insane things that even the wildest sarcasm can be mistaken for a sincere utterance.
15 posted on 03/08/2012 8:49:30 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: ejonesie22
Oh here we go, all the Ron Paul pro pot guys are on the way.

Is Pat Robertson a Ron Paul pro pot guy?

16 posted on 03/08/2012 8:50:54 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: AnTiw1
Just decriminalize it. If someone wants to grow it next to his/her tomatoes so be it. It would completely take the money out of it thus the violence that goes along with the current situation. The dope dealers wouldn't be able to give their dope away because it would be worth hardly nothing.
17 posted on 03/08/2012 8:52:37 AM PST by kempo
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To: ejonesie22

Not pro-pot. Pro-rights, anti-excessive-taxation. Don’t like the consequences of legalization, but the consequences of prohibition are much worse. Dopers still have no trouble getting dope, but I have to be treated “guilty until proven innocent” in a host of non-dope-related normal activities (transferring nontrivial cash, buying Sudafed, etc), I have to pay high taxes for the ineffectual cause of dope prohibition, and innocent lives are destroyed by the inevitable mistakes & collateral damage of stopping those who won’t be stopped.

If dope prohibition worked, great do it. But it doesn’t, and allowance is not as bad as prohibition.

Sometimes ya gotta pick the lesser of two evils. Choosing the greater evil because the lesser evil is evil is stupid.


18 posted on 03/08/2012 8:56:01 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ejonesie22
Oh here we go, all the Ron Paul pro pot guys are on the way

Given a choice, I'll side with them over so-called "conservatives" who gladly advocate the Government telling people, under threat of force, what they cannot put into their bodies.

19 posted on 03/08/2012 8:56:52 AM PST by gdani
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To: AnTiw1
The wars on murder, rape, burglary, prostitution, speeding, white collar crimes, illegal aliens, arson and poverty haven't worked either. Which ones should we repeal under the same “it hasn't worked logic”?
Go spend an afternoon in a rehab center or primi ward at a hospital and tell me we should legalize this sh*t. Spend a few weekend nights with an EMT crew responding to O.D.s, car crashes and the families affected by someone else’s idea of a good time and tell me we ought to encourage more of this sh*t in our communities and easier for our youth to access.
Build more prisons and up the punishments and costs to dealers and users. -Wb
20 posted on 03/08/2012 8:57:20 AM PST by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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To: AnTiw1

I used to be against it before I was for it. I totally agree. Everyone should get high now and then. Its so harmless as an occasional chill out while playing chess and drinking scotch with good friends.


21 posted on 03/08/2012 8:59:15 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: ejonesie22

Not pro-pot. Anti no knock raids. Right now you’re in more danger from the WOD than you ever word from drugs. The biggest drug “related” danger we all face now is the cops misreading an address on their warrant and kicking our door in, we react the way any sane person would react to unidentified people kicking our door in and they shoot us. The great irony of course being that in this day and age drug enforcement cops seem less capable of finding the right address than pizza delivery guys who are usually on drugs.


22 posted on 03/08/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: AnTiw1

It’s amazing how hypocritical lbertaians can be.

One minute they are flaming away at RoPaul and Pat Robertson, the next - they are in agreement with them.

It’s very simple. We should not surrender to Mexico. We should continue to fight the WOD.

We shoulld tell all libertarians to put down that bong and shut up.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 9:03:06 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: ctdonath2; JustSayNoToNannies
keep on smokin' it....an make sure your kids toke away too....

Cannabis can precipitate the first episode of psychosis If someone has a predisposition to a psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, use of drugs such as cannabis may trigger the first episode in what can be a lifelong, disabling condition. There is increasing evidence that regular cannabis use precedes and causes higher rates of psychotic illness. Psychotic illnesses are characterised by: Delusions – for example, the person believes they have special powers. Hallucinations – for example, the person hears voices or sees things that aren’t really there. Thought disorder – for example, the person has difficulty organising their thoughts. When people experience psychotic symptoms, they are unable to distinguish what is real. They lose contact with reality.

24 posted on 03/08/2012 9:03:11 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Wagonboy

The fact that there’s no reduction in drug use shows why the WOD is a failure, we’re 40 years into this thing and everything it was supposed to make not happen still happens at least as often. And unlike those other “wars” you mention this one treat all Americans like criminals. Bought sudafed lately? Hope you didn’t buy too much, the DEA could be paying you a visit, with a full SWAT team kicking in your door and searching your home refusing to present you the warrant until they’re done. All because the WOD says hay fever is a crime.


25 posted on 03/08/2012 9:03:49 AM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: AnTiw1

26 posted on 03/08/2012 9:05:41 AM PST by Eccl 10:2
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To: Responsibility2nd
It’s amazing how hypocritical lbertaians can be.

One minute they are flaming away at RoPaul and Pat Robertson,

I've never flamed away at them.

the next - they are in agreement with them.

Have you ever agreed with Pat Robertson? If so, does disagreeing with him now make you hypocritical?

27 posted on 03/08/2012 9:07:38 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Sure looks like it doesn’t it...


28 posted on 03/08/2012 9:08:30 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: AnTiw1

Oh yeah that would do it.

What about the hard drugs?


29 posted on 03/08/2012 9:11:01 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Responsibility2nd
It’s amazing how hypocritical lbertaians can be.

One minute they are flaming away at RoPaul and Pat Robertson, the next - they are in agreement with them.

I's amazing how hypocritical some "conservatives" can be.

One minute they are advocating for small government, the next they are cheering on the government to control what people put in their bodies.

30 posted on 03/08/2012 9:11:21 AM PST by gdani
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To: Vaquero; ctdonath2
Sonofagun ... he wasn't kidding!

keep on smokin' it....

Haven't for many years - nor used the drug alcohol.

an make sure your kids toke away too....

Should we ban alcohol so kids won't use it?

Actually, since kids report that they can now get marijuana more easily than cigarettes or beer, it follows that the best way to restict their access to drugs is to make them legal for adults only (thus giving those who sell to adults a disincentive to sell to kids - namely, the loss of their legal adult market).

Cannabis can precipitate the first episode of psychosis If someone has a predisposition to a psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, use of drugs such as cannabis may trigger the first episode in what can be a lifelong, disabling condition. There is increasing evidence that regular cannabis use precedes and causes higher rates of psychotic illness.

Source? Not everything you find on the Internet is true, y'know.

Psychotic illnesses are characterised by: Delusions – for example, the person believes they have special powers. Hallucinations – for example, the person hears voices or sees things that aren’t really there. Thought disorder – for example, the person has difficulty organising their thoughts. When people experience psychotic symptoms, they are unable to distinguish what is real. They lose contact with reality.

Sounds like the last time I got drunk.

31 posted on 03/08/2012 9:13:57 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Wagonboy

I agree with you about the war on poverty, which should also be stopped immediately.

People who are going to do bad things are going to do bad things. I would take a wild guess and say that most of the car crashes were not caused by reefer but by alcohol. Go to an AA meeting sometime.

The reality is that prohibition of substances like alcohol and drugs only creates more crime. Here’s a fact — there are drugs available in every prison in America.

If someone crashes a car under the influence, lock them up.

Punish bad behavior. Punish behavior and actions that deny other people their rights, property, or lives.

That’s the difference between most of your list and the legalization of drugs.


32 posted on 03/08/2012 9:14:24 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: Wagonboy

You have actually seen people od on weed? I have actually never heard of this.


33 posted on 03/08/2012 9:15:06 AM PST by beefree (25,000,000 "women" have been executed without trial in this country since 1973.)
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To: kempo

In Lancaster County, PA there is a town called Hempfield. The local high school is Hempfield High (no pun iontended). That name goes back Colonial days. Guess what they used to grow there....legally.


34 posted on 03/08/2012 9:15:06 AM PST by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Tucker39

during WWII, four-H kids grew it for the war effort.


35 posted on 03/08/2012 9:16:53 AM PST by beefree (25,000,000 "women" have been executed without trial in this country since 1973.)
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To: dfwgator
I would also however, allow employers to test for it and they should have the right to fire or not to hire those who do use.

Already being done in my profession.

36 posted on 03/08/2012 9:17:02 AM PST by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: ejonesie22
Is Pat Robertson a Ron Paul pro pot guy?

Sure looks like it doesn’t it...

No, to any sane person it looks like a deeply Christian man of conservative inclinations has after long thought and observation come to grips with the limits of governmental social engineering and the law of unintended consequences.

Of course, "any sane person" lets out any Drug Warrior I've ever encountered, on or off FR.

37 posted on 03/08/2012 9:17:26 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: AnTiw1

I have no problem with legalizing it as well, but remember; Once you do that they the left is going to demand legalizing everything else like meth and crack which should please Nancy Pelosi to no end being that she could then openly display her addiction.


38 posted on 03/08/2012 9:17:45 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (How ironic that Ann Coulter should write a book called Treason.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
We shoulld tell all libertarians to put down that bong and shut up.

Seig Heil!

Inhaling a little too much jackboot polish today, comrade?

39 posted on 03/08/2012 9:18:00 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: ctdonath2
I am more worried about the slippery slope. Pot really does nothing but create a pot head that at worst is a drain on its parents or us in our current society.

But where do we stop because the same arguments can be made for more dangerous drugs and they will be.

40 posted on 03/08/2012 9:19:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: beefree; Wagonboy
You have actually seen people od on weed? I have actually never heard of this.

That's because the lethal dose of THC is so large you'd have to smoke 240 joints in a row to get there.

But no claim is too ridiculous for a Drug Warrior to make with a straight face.

41 posted on 03/08/2012 9:20:36 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: AnTiw1
"I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol,"

Well, they say only Nixon could go to China…

"this war on drugs just hasn't succeeded."

Pity he will not accept the implications of his own logic and go beyond marijuana.

42 posted on 03/08/2012 9:20:39 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: bassmaner

Gee. I touched a nerve, didn’t I?

OK, I give you permission to torch up just one more bowl. But... I will remind you this is a conservative site. If you are into drugs, you really should keep quiet.


43 posted on 03/08/2012 9:21:18 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: gdani
Ah...

I see the light now.

A 14 year old should be free to ingest all the LSD he wants...

Yes I am a “so called” conservative...

Thank God there are many more like me...

44 posted on 03/08/2012 9:22:39 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: discostu

Well then bong hits for everyone...


45 posted on 03/08/2012 9:24:18 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
But where do we stop because the same arguments can be made for more dangerous drugs and they will be.

Alcohol has already set the precedent for legalizing dangerous drugs. For each drug in each state, the will of the majority will prevail as it should. (Since recent polls show a majority of Americans in favor of legalizing pot, by tying that issue to legalizing harder drugs you may actually be promoting the latter.)

46 posted on 03/08/2012 9:24:52 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: ejonesie22

Just like a WOD supporter, ignore the facts go for the insults. Thus admitting the facts don’t support you.


47 posted on 03/08/2012 9:26:02 AM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: gdani

Do you put “it” in your body?

No? Why not? Is it because it’s unhealthy and dangerous?

So. YOU know better than to use drugs, but are perfectly fine with our government allowing others to become enslaved to the problems of drugs abuse.

Pathretic.

While you’re here spewing such libertarian crap, why not tell us how prostitutiion should be legal also?


48 posted on 03/08/2012 9:26:17 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
So. YOU know better than to use drugs, but are perfectly fine with our government allowing others to become enslaved to the problems of drugs abuse.

Not quite. I ingest alcohol, a very dangerous drug. I've also used marijuana in the past, just like Newt, Clarence Thomas, etc.

49 posted on 03/08/2012 9:30:22 AM PST by gdani
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To: AnTiw1

Let’s see.....legalize it and really tax it.....the Mexican drug lords will undercut the price of the legal stuff and we just increase the number of psychotic people.....what do I care if people use it?......it would be nice to live on an island with no other people, but we do have all those messy other human beings around and I don’t need any more psychotic people in this country thank-you very much.....the punishment hasn’t stopped people from using it.....hmmmm......let’s not punish anything then, we’ll just surrender and line up for al qaeda to shoot us.....in order for democracy to work, the citizens must have courage.....illegal drug users are cowards.....if you want to know why this country keeps electing fast-talking Democrat thieves, well, have another toke and maybe the answer will come to you.....I’m tired of all the lazy, stupid and chicken illegal drug users in this nation.....you want to end the illegal drug problem?...here’s how......Hey! Illegal drug users! Face reality! It’s not going away no matter how much weed you smoke. And as for those of you who want to legalize it so your pot is cheaper or because you want the profits off the misery of others or because you don’t care about the miserable wretch illegal drug users......well.....fuck you.


50 posted on 03/08/2012 9:30:57 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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