To love one another, all that believe have to come together first!

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[jesus4life]

AMEN!!

PRAISE JESUS!

Jesus4life

[Iscool]

I do believe your chart is a phoney...

[Iscool]

I can walk in to most all of those churches you listed and worship with brothers/sisters in Christ...We’re united, where it counts...

[jesus4life]

Iscool,

The AMEN I sent was to the statement that being born again. Just needed to clear that.

TO ALL,

AMEN!
Great conversations. This is where it all starts.

Some people need to “ voice” before they learn something. Some people just see and learn.
Some people hear and learn.
Some just follow.
There are other examples of faith.
It all takes different parts of the body to make ONE BODY!!

Great stuff.

Church starts in the heart.

PRAISE JESUS!

Jesus4life

[Choose Ye This Day]

Except for those #!:**! Mormons.

[jesus4life]

Well my friend.
Not sure if that was a joke or not.
Everyone has a different “ flare” for jokes in life.
But, so is life.

But just in case it’s not a joke.
IF it’s not a joke!

” LET’S RE-CAP ON A PASSAGE SHALL WE!!”.
( Suddenly a figure appears coming out of the wings on stage left. A spotlight appears center stage on an unbecoming famous eternal carpenter. He raises HIS hands and Mary humbly pulls back the curtains as they reveal):

MATTHEW 5:43-48

43 ‘You have heard how it was said, You will love your neighbour and hate your enemy.

44 But I say this to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you;

45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven, for he causes his sun to rise on the bad as well as the good, and sends down rain to fall on the upright and the wicked alike.

46 For if you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even the tax collectors do as much?

47 And if you save your greetings for your brothers, are you doing anything exceptional?

48 Do not even the gentiles do as much? You must therefore be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.’

PRAISE JESUS!

Jesus4life

[Choose Ye This Day]

It was a sarcastic joke, echoing some of the very real and unChristlike attitudes some around this forum have for the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.

FWIW, I like your posts for their positive, uplifting and ecumenical tone. Sorry to take away from that.

[jesus4life]

AMEN!

My brother or sister ( not sure by this name you use).
You took away nothing from this post. No worries.
If you read the first part of my reply to you, I said that everyone has their own way of joking; it’s ok.

I personally figured it was a joke.
But on the “ world wide” internet, one has to be careful how and where they joke. So, GOD had me put up that passage again, just in case someone thought you were serious and wanted to start to bash in on that thought.

Jokes are okay with me.

GOD definitely has a sense of humor. When we look at some of the things HE has HIS prophets, messengers, priests, and believers do!! WOW!! HE has a sense of humor when HE wants to teach someone something. So, humor is fine. It’s just how we use it is the problem.

I am probably one of the hardest people to offend. Jokes never bothered me. When I was young, I was always surprised at people that joke and then could not take a joke back.
I am sure you get what I am saying here.

Thanks for your positive words and support as we are all ONE BODY IN CHRIST!!

Love to you and all in JESUS HOLY and PRECIOUS name with eyes on the FATHER,

Jesus4life

[daniel1212]

A favored argument against Sola Scriptura frequently used by our friends in the Roman Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church is "Just look at Protestantism! It's a mess, of 22,000 25,000 30,000 33,000 58 gazillion denominations!"
What are they saying? Mostly that Sola Scriptura as a rule of faith is insufficient to bring about institutional, organisational unity to the church of Jesus Christ. And of course, Christ would obviously want His church to have institutional, organisational unity! Evidently, setting the Scripture alone up as the sole infallible final rule of faith for the church doesn't accomplish what it's supposed to. Ergo, Sola Scriptura is false.

I've created this crude and very maladroit drawing to illustrate.


Let's analyse, then, the alternatives of Rome and Eastern Orthodoxy.
Now, we of course like to accuse them of Sola Ecclesia; that is, we contend that their sole infallible final rule of faith is Whatever The Church® Says. But they don't like it when we say that, so let's be conciliatory and lay the contention aside. Their "real" rule of faith is Apostolic Tradition, which includes written and unwritten tradition from the apostles, both in Scripture and in other places such as the lived-out faith of the church, the liturgies, the writings of church fathers down through the years, etc.
Notice that, like the Scripture, this too forms a corpus with limits. The Da Vinci Code is not part of Apostolic Tradition. Neither is the Qur'an, nor is The Audacity of Hope (though, depending on which Roman or EO priest you ask, that last one might be close). We and others have contended many times, rightly, that the limits to the Roman and EO Canons of Scripture are not only poorly defined but actually non-existent. It is also indisputable that one's presupposition of an infallible interpreter (whether she be Rome or EOC) will govern which little-t traditions are actually accepted, promoted if you will, to Big-T Sacred Apostolic Tradition, thus forming the basis for Roman or Orthodox dogma, leaving the little-t traditions to rot by the wayside, relegated to "Well, he was just speaking as a private theologian" or "That was just his opinion" status.
But let's leave all of that aside and grant that there is one big and awe-inspiring God-given Verbum Dei corpus of Scripture and Tradition that is the proper rule of faith for the church of Jesus Christ.

The problem is obvious - Rome, sedevacantists, traditionalist Catholics, Pope Michael-ists, Eastern Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, and various other churches with incompatible teachings all appeal to this set and limited corpus of Scripture and Tradition. It would appear that the criticism against Sola Scriptura of multiple denominations applies to the Roman and EO rule of faith as well.

The Romanist or Orthodox might object: "But we're not in communion with those schismatics/heterodox/heretics!" Now, what if I were to reply, as a member of a Southern Baptist church, that, have no fear my non-Sola Scripturist friends, my church holds that everyone who's not a member of a Southern Baptist church is a schismatic/heterodox/heretic too? Would that make our Romanist or Orthodox friends feel better?

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2009/12/special-pleading-of-sola-ecclesia-ists.html

[DaveMSmith]

“… In the Christian world it is doctrinal matters that distinguish churches; and from them men call themselves Roman Catholics, Lutherans, and Calvinists, or the Reformed and the Evangelical, and by other names [including Swedenborgians]. It is from what is doctrinal alone that they are so called; which would never be if they would make love to the Lord and charity toward the neighbor the principal of faith. Doctrinal matters would then be only varieties of opinion concerning the mysteries of faith, which truly Christian men would leave to everyone to hold in accordance with his conscience, and would say in their hearts that a man is truly a Christian when he lives as a Christian, that is, as the Lord teaches. Thus from all the differing churches there would be made one church; and all the dissensions that come forth from doctrine alone would vanish; yea, all hatreds of one against another would be dissipated in a moment, and the Lord's kingdom would come upon the earth.” (Emanuel Swedenborg, Heavenly Secrets 1799:4)

[jesus4life]

Amen! However people need to see it. From the Bible or human faith inspired words. It’s all the same. We all still need to come together and love one another.

PRaise JESUS,

Jesus4life