Posted on 01/03/2012 3:30:48 PM PST by Gamecock
There are a lot of protestant “theologians” who do not have the intellectual capabilities to ever become a Catholic priest.
Sure, anyone can sit in the pews in a Catholic church.
You can rest assured that this man will never give up his Christianity to return to your religion...
He has found Jesus...Jesus is in him...And he in Jesus...
The same Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead; the same Holy Spirit that you guys claim leads your magisterium now resides in this man, and all born again Christians...
Catholicism is the thinking man’s Christianity. Calvinism is the lazy man’s Christianity.
I find it interesting that virtually all of the Catholic to Protestant conversion stories were ones rooted in emotional reactions to a misunderstanding of the Catholic teaching on grace.
That was true for Martin Luther and individuals like the one in the article.
If salvation is an eternal thing that you can’t lose through laxity or spiritual laziness, then who wouldn’t want to find the path of least resistance?
Calvinism selectively cherrypicks verses to fit its theory while ignoring those that object to it.
What objectively on the basis of scripure alone makes the Calvinists right and the Arminians or Lutherans wrong?
Catholicism is the thinking man’s Christianity. Calvinism is the lazy man’s Christianity.
I find it interesting that virtually all of the Catholic to Protestant conversion stories were ones rooted in emotional reactions to a misunderstanding of the Catholic teaching on grace.
That was true for Martin Luther and individuals like the one in the article.
If salvation is an eternal thing that you can’t lose through laxity or spiritual laziness, then who wouldn’t want to find the path of least resistance?
Calvinism selectively cherrypicks verses to fit its theory while ignoring those that object to it.
What objectively on the basis of scripture alone makes the Calvinists right and the Arminians or Lutherans wrong?
It is like someone telling him what to write It seems very sterile on the Catholic side of the article. There should be more little things its like a phony hit piece.
We Catholics do have the Holy Spirit. In fact the Holy Spirit guided us as we canonized the scriptures and is still guiding us (and Protestants). Somehow I find it hard to believe that nobody found Jesus until after the Reformation. Praise Jesus that I found him in the Lutheran Church and haven’t lost him despite being received into the Catholic Church.
I thank God every day for my faith, given to me through the Roman Catholic Church and the bible!
You are completely correct. Conversions of poorly catechized Catholics to protestantism all center around emotion. Every last one of them.
My mother is a devout Polish Catholic woman who married my Calvinist father in 1954. Eventually, after 50years of marriage he converted to Catholicism after intense study and reflection. Suffice it to say, he had a conversion experience, and God led him there through his (my father’s)intellect. He’s the smartest man I know and finally came to his senses regarding the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
Thankfully, my siblings and I were raised as Catholics and had a mother who instructed us in the nuances of the faith.
Your rhetorical question: “If salvation is an eternal thing that you can’t lose through laxity or spiritual laziness, then who wouldn’t want to find the path of least resistance?” is succinct and brilliant.
This is sterile. If he really did this He would show why his knees hurt in descriptive words. No true human being especially an opposite of this so-called stereo type complaint would forget this part of pain.
And He never knew pardon for sin. Very strange words indeed from a so-called priest. What a Hit piece. What suckers on this thread from some of our Indy church brethren responses.
“There are a lot of protestant “theologians” who do not have the intellectual capabilities to ever become a Catholic priest.”
AMEN!!!
I agree 100%!
It takes GENIUS level brain power to take God’s Word and turn it into a pretzel.
I’ve had a RCC seminary professor tell me that “born again” doesn’t mean “born again” and I had a Jesuit tell me that Jesus was not bodily resurrected. Yep, those guys are too smart for the average “protestant”.
\sarc
Where did you get that bible you worship? Not from any protestants.
A certain FReeper who will remain nameless asked me privately if I “traded up” by giving up on an assurance of salvation.
But that individual failed because I was a Lutheran, and Lutherans reject eternal security.
But I almost never see Lutherans on these boards waging a scorched-earth war on Catholicism.
And Catholics who become Lutheran do so to be “Catholic lite” without the restrictions on divorce or contraception.
Yes this smelled phony from the get-go, like “Alberto”.
Yes! From He who can not be mentioned. A forger and wanted in several states. Which Christianity Today exposed in 1980(?)
Colossians 1:18: And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
The True Church is the Church which God the Father and the Resurrected Christ Jesus REVEALED THE MYSTERY which has been hid from organized religion and the pagan world system for ages past - but now is CLEARLY made manifest to HIS Believer-Saints:
Colossians 1:26: Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Colossians 1:27: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
The True Church is the Church which God the Father and the Resurrected Christ Jesus revealed to Peter REGARDING PAUL's appointment and calling to the Gentiles:
II Peter 3:15: And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
II Peter 3:16: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
The True Church is the Church which God the Father and the Resurrected Christ Jesus communicated to the Apostle Paul to make known that GOD and CHRIST will judge the secrets of men ACCORDING to the Gospel of Grace which GOD gave Paul to preach in the last 2,000 years:
Romans 2:16: In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
The True Church is the Church which God the Father and the Resurrected Christ Jesus REVEALED that ONLY HEAVEN and HELL exist - and that a person has ONLY ONE choice during this life - once that person physical dies, that person is immediately ushered into either HEAVEN or HELL (FOREVER). Purgatory is a fabrication of man, not GOD. GOD is not a liar - HE only spoke about HEAVEN or HELL as the only destinations. That is why Jesus WARNED about HELL so very often inside the Jewish Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) - read Zechariah this book mentions all of the Gospels by Christ's Titles, thus making these Gospels intimately tied with the Jewish scriptures as fulfillment.
Repent ye and believe in the Grace of God which Paul preached and ye shall be "judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel". GOD appointed Paul to say that - not men.
Peter never said that - show us the scriptures that Peter says "judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel"! It doesn't exist! Be ye not found in Rev 20:12:
Be ye not found in Rev 20:12:
Revelation 20:12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Stop being spiritually lazy and thinking that intellectual religion will save you.
As St. Paul also says in Romans 2:13,”for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.”
This echoes St. James in James 2:24. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
And James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
St. Gregory of Sinai summarizes the Catholic/Orthodox view on faith better than anyone who I have seen.
St. Gregory of Sinai, a 13th century Greek monk, who is considered a saint by Catholics and Orthodox alike writes the following in his treatise: “On Commandments and Doctrines”
“Grace-imbued faith, energized by the Holy Spirit, alone suffices for salvation, provided we sustain it and do not opt for a dead and effectual faith rather than a living and effective faith in Christ.”
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Penance serves to humble the heart of the believer to being a better follower of Christ because he can only be served with humility.
And St. Mark the Ascetic, a 4th century Desert Father teaches:
18. Some without fulfilling the commandments think that they possess true faith.
Others fulfil the commandments and then expect the kingdom as a reward due to
them. Both are mistaken.
19. A master is under no obligation to reward his slaves; on the other hand, those who
do not serve him well are not given their freedom.
20. If ‘Christ died on our account in accordance with the Scriptures’ (Rm 5:8; 1Co
15:3), and we do not ‘live for ourselves’, but ‘for Him who died and rose’ on our
account (2Co 5:15), it is clear that we are debtors to Christ to serve Him till our
death. How then can we regard sonship as something which is our due?
21. Christ is Master by virtue of His own essence and Master by virtue of His incarnate
life. For He creates man from nothing, and through His own Blood redeems him
when dead in sin; and to those who believe in Him He has given His grace.22. When Scripture says ‘He will reward every man according to his works’ (Mt 16:27),
do not imagine that works in themselves merit either hell or the kingdom. On the
contrary, Christ rewards each man according to whether his works are done with
faith or without faith in Himself; and He is not a dealer bound by contract, but God
our Creator and Redeemer.
“I loved my sin, but I hated that miserable life and started to cry out to God.”
Sometimes I do believe that is the universal lot of mankind. At least this man knew whom to cry out to. So many of the lost these days do not know that God is ready to answer their cries.
“I entered the Roman Catholic Seminary located in Maynooth, County Kildare, Ireland. During my two years at seminary, I learned about religion and philosophy but there were no biblical studies”
Here is a link to the course requirements of that seminary.I doubt the course outlines have changed all that much.
http://www.maynoothcollege.ie/courses/index.shtml
We have course offerings in
“Sacred Scripture
SC 131 ‘From Eden to Exile’
SC 135 Risen Lord in a Pagan Empire”
Perhaps the good man had no idea that courses in Sacred Scripture were Biblical Studies. However, did he qualify for admission?
An experience shared by many former RC’s..Thanks
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