Posted on 12/26/2011 4:04:21 PM PST by Colofornian
You are right. They are taught to “bleed the beast” the beast being the US government
wow, Scoutmaster where did you get that list?
DOES NOT DENY
You are right, LDS and Mormons have no standing on Free Republic. I suppose you are one of the lucky ones who lives in a community where it is ok for you to be on the internet? Perhaps you are one of the lucky ones who is actually a Christian stuck in and LDS community? But surely you know there is a party line for LDS and the party line differs from the practical matter. The party line is “There is not any child abuse” and the practical is statutory or actual rape.
Do as I say not as I do.......
I did ask the bishop and he told me I had to be a Mormon first. Bastard.
Some of them are close to being orthodox Christian; the "Community of Christ" (formerly the Reorganized CoJCoLDS) is Trinitarian, for example.
Show me an "anti" who said that. Just one, not the "many" that you claim said it.
I know you can blandly call me a liar and make it personal because I am LDS the RM will not correct you LDS have no standing on FR.
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Whaaaaa. You seem ok with calling US liars (and worse) and the RM not correcting YOU. The LDS have just as much standing as everyone one else. This is a Free Republic after all.
BTW it was not unusual in those days to marry young as 14 with parent consent.
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Believe and spin what you want and as I said before
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts
Research your history resty - you will see the hole large enough to drive a semi through in your statement.
FLDS just following ALL mormon scripture - particularly D&C Section 132 - which is still DOCTRINE for ALL LDS.
Even about PREBYTERIANism?
Correct. Some split off while Joseph Smith, Jr. was still alive because they found out he was committing polygamy and polyandry (marrying other men's wives) and lying about it. One of them was started by William Law after Joseph Smith, Jr. asked Law's wife to Celestialize with him (that's have sex with him, for those of you from Tuscaloosa).
When she refused to become Smith's 40-oddth wife, the LDS powers started a rumor that she was having an affair. And then when Law objected, Smith did two things. He gave a famous sermon in which he declared that he had been accused of having multiple wives but he could only find one. And he made certain William Law was excommunicated.
Less than a month later, Law has started a spin-off that taught the Book of Mormon was truth, but that Joseph Smith was a fallen prophet (the BOM taught that polygamy was a sin). Law was one of the editors of the Nauvoo Expositor, which published a single edition that, among other things, exposed Smith as a polygamist.
Smith ordered the printing press destroyed.
Yada, yada, yada. Smith declares martial law. Treason charges. Carthage jail. Smuggled guns. Smith shoots and kills a couple of men. Smith dies primarily because he's been practicing polygamy since 1831 and lying about it publicly. And he's taking the wives of other men as his wifes. And he's propositioning the wives of other men, and they turn him down. And he excommunicates a man who announces it publicly. And he orders the destruction of a printing press that prints the news that he's a polygamist.
Even in this day and time, messing around with and sleeping with other men's wives will get you killed. Lying about adultery isn't a good idea.
It certainly didn't work for Joseph Smith.
A few of the sects broke off from the Brighamite branch of the church and stopped practicing polygamy as well.
Well, they should read the affidavits and testimony in the Temple Lot case, when Joseph Smith's wives all said they had sex with him and were his wives. Game. Set. Match.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your point.
Do you mean that Joseph Smith never engaged in polygamy?
Do you mean that Joseph marriage never engaged in polyandrous marriage?
Do you mean that polygamy/polyandry was not practiced until the Saints went west?
Do you mean members of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints never practiced plural marriage?
Do you mean there was no sex in plural marriage?
Seriously, restornu, I'm not certain what you mean when you say "plural marriage as LDS was never lived in this matter". Could you please explain?
What I site comes directly from your FAIR, the place you quote from on a regular bases.
Sorry Resty, J Smith’s legal wife wrote much on her husband having sex with other women INCLUDING the underaged “wife” that lived with them.
If you want to say that is spin, then it appears you are completely blind to your own mormon history.
A combination of Wikipedia and some LDS sources. I compiled it after reading that Joseph Smith had said:
I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.
Source: The LDS History of The Church, 6:408409. I'd give you the BYU Studies link to this quote from FAIRlds.org, but a typical thing happened. FAIRlds.org frequently creates footnotes and 'scholarly' links that appear to be hyperlinks in an effort to make its works look scholarly. Unfortunately a very, very large percentage of FAIR's links either are 404'd or go to stub links on the FAIR site itself, where FAIR apparently intends someday to include scholarly support for its claims, but doesn't have any yet. It looks impressive, but it's a case of the emperor having no clothes. FAIR claims to have analysis of this quote from BYU Studies, but the link goes nowhere.
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