THE OFFICE OF PROPHET is about to return to the church body WORLDWIDE !

The Joshua Chronicles ^ | 12-11-11 | Jedediah

[reaganaut]

Fail. All of those references are OLD TESTAMENT. The point of the prophets in the OT was to correct and fortell of the coming Christ. Since Christ has already been here their function has passed.

YOU, SIR, ARE ATTEMPTING TO USURP THE PLACE OF CHRIST!

You are correct that the Holy Spirit speaks to ALL believers, which is exactly why there is no OFFICE of Prophet. As some one else posted (Hebrews 1:1), in times past God spoke through prophets, now He speaks through His Son.

You really need to read your Bible more. But hey, keep going, I can do this all day, I have this same debate with Mormons all the time, explaining exactly why there is no such thing as a “modern prophet”.

[reaganaut]

Excellent post and good catch on strange fire.

[reaganaut]

Correction, you did use (actually misuse) one NT verse...

1 Corinthians 14:5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.

That is referring to the spiritual gift of prophecy which is not the same as the office of prophet.

[Jedediah]

THE SHAPING OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST
Joint combined retrofitting of my body and church is aggregating into its finished mold now “ The Bride of Christ “ , for all things foreign to my body are being dismembered and the ambiguity taking away from the clear view of all she is in this hour is being dissolved , leaving a clarity of the heart and spirit of My Bride so “ The Mind of Christ “ in all its manifold wisdom and glory may be revealed no longer “The Hidden Manna” but but a pronounced finality about to evolve completely true and faithful . So posture your heart before me that I may trim your wick and let the “Oil of Unity” feed the light in you “ The love of The Father “ for truly this is the light he delights in seeing in “ a humble fear of who he is “ your magistrate and only God and Shalom .

John 6:1515
Then Jesus, knowing that they meant to come and seize Him that they might make Him king, withdrew again to the hillside by Himself alone. 16When evening came, His disciples went down to the sea, 17And they took a boat and were going across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and still Jesus had not [yet] come back to them.
18Meanwhile, the sea was getting rough and rising high because of a great and violent wind that was blowing.
19[However] when they had rowed three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and approaching the boat. And they were afraid (terrified).
20But Jesus said to them, It is I; be not afraid! [I AM; stop being frightened!](A)
21Then they were quite willing and glad for Him to come into the boat. And now the boat went at once to the land they had steered toward. [And immediately they reached the shore toward which they had been slowly making their way.]
22The next day the crowd [that still remained] standing on the other side of the sea realized that there had been only one small boat there, and that Jesus had not gone into it with His disciples, but that His disciples had gone away by themselves.
23But now some other boats from Tiberias had come in near the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
24So the people, finding that neither Jesus nor His disciples were there, themselves got into the small boats and came to Capernaum looking for Jesus.
25And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, Rabbi! When did You come here?
26Jesus answered them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, you have been searching for Me, not because you saw the miracles and signs but because you were fed with the loaves and were filled and satisfied.
27Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes [in the using], but strive and work and produce rather for the [lasting] food which endures [continually] unto life eternal; the Son of Man will give (furnish) you that, for God the Father has authorized and certified Him and put His seal of endorsement upon Him.
28They then said, What are we to do, that we may [habitually] be working the works of God? [What are we to do to carry out what God requires?]
29Jesus replied, This is the work (service) that God asks of you: that you believe in the One Whom He has sent [that you cleave to, trust, rely on, and have faith in His Messenger].
30Therefore they said to Him, What sign (miracle, wonderwork) will [a]You perform then, so that we may see it and believe and rely on and adhere to You? What [supernatural] work have You [to show what You can do]?
31Our forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as the Scripture says, He gave them bread out of heaven to eat.(B)
32Jesus then said to them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Moses did not give you the Bread from heaven [what Moses gave you was not the Bread from heaven], but it is My Father Who gives you the true heavenly Bread.
33For the Bread of God is He Who comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world.
34Then they said to Him, Lord, give us this bread always (all the time)!
35Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry, and he who believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me will never thirst any more (at any time).
36But [as] I told you, although you have seen Me, still you do not believe and trust and have faith.
37All whom My Father gives (entrusts) to Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, no never, reject one of them who comes to Me].
38For I have come down from heaven not to do My own will and purpose but to do the will and purpose of Him Who sent Me.
39And this is the will of Him Who sent Me, that I should not lose any of all that He has given Me, but that I should give new life and raise [them all] up at the last day.
40For this is My Father’s will and His purpose, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up [from the dead] at the last day.

[Jedediah]

PREPARE THE CHURCH ! PREPARE THE BRIDE ! ARE YOU READY ?!
Prepare the Church ! Prepare the Bride ,

There is no place for mankind to hide !

For the eyes of the Lord look to and fro ,

And The Spirit of God knows where his breath goes ,

So fill your vessels and trim your wicks ,

For a suddenly is coming quick !

The Bride and the bridesmaids shall soon be as one ,

Pure and spotless not undone ,

The Groom awaits the striking of the hour ,

And soon shall come in his fear and power ,

And all that shall be left is awe and dread ,

For those living in Christ shall receive their wedding bed ,

But to all that deny the will of God ,

Their fruit shall be damnation and the Rod !

Job 34:14
14If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;

Job 33:4
The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life

Matthew 24:40-42
40”Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.
41”Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

Be Ready for His Coming 42”Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

Job 34:14

14If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;

[reaganaut]

I got the accusation of ‘envy’ as well. Sigh...

[American in Israel]

But if the Word says the office of the prophet was given in the New Testament times, why are you announcing it now as if its a new move? Any clue as to why “God told you this from his lips” to tell us? Is this still not the Days of the Gentiles? Did the gift come, then go, so it could come in the same days? Did God just change his mind, then change it back?

Or are you clueless, and very much in danger from the loose flapping of your mouth in Gods name?

[tx_eggman]

Jed, for the love of God, next time you wander upstairs from your mom’s basement to see the sun please get back on your meds.

[Jedediah]

your right the Holy Spirit fills the office of prophet as he speaks through us and I was never duped by cult !

[Ramius]

f.Christian! Is that you?? We’ve ~really~ missed you.

[Jedediah]

read it carefully it explains what is being done and why . Remember where Jesus said If we are luke warm he will spit them out of his mouth ?

Many people (temples) are luke warm not bearing fruit or very little !

We should pray for each other not attack one another that is not Christ in us !

[SENTINEL]

"Endowment", "Ordination", "Members of the Seventy"

Your choice of keywords has given you away...YOU'RE AN LDS SECT MORMON aren't you !?

[reaganaut]

And overuse of “Zion” as well...

[reaganaut]

your right the Holy Spirit fills the office of prophet as he speaks through us and I was never duped by cult !

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THERE IS NO OFFICE OF PROPHET, except the one filled by Christ! Christ is Prophet, Priest and King, no one else, not Tommy Monson, not Joseph Smith, not Harold Camping, and certainly not you!

And, no, you didn’t need to be duped, you just created your OWN cult.

Seriously dude, you either need medication or salvation because you are not talking like a Christian and have no idea what the Bible says.

[SENTINEL]

Next thing you know he'll be pushing Romney on us.

Noticed how he won't deny it ?....You know what they say, walks like a duck, talks like a duck... Quack. ;)

[reaganaut]

We should pray for each other not attack one another that is not Christ in us !

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Wow, I think you are channeling Resty.

Seriously though, Christians are called to warn and combat heresy and that is exactly what AiI and I (and others here) are doing.

[reaganaut]

So he’s a charismatic breakoff of Mormonism? I can’t imagine a good Mormon trying to usurp Tommy M. but I suppose it is possible...

[reaganaut]

courtesy ping to #36

[SENTINEL]

Aren't there about 100 different sects of Mormonism ?

Romney's salt lake LDS sect broke away when FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young declared Joe Smith's "retranslation" of the bible to be a fraud. They don't use it to this very day.

[Elsie]

So he’s a charismatic breakoff of Mormonism?

With the Mormons (to be precise, the members of The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - based in Salt Lake City) intent on being called “Christians” after so many years of eschewing that word, and despite the fact that there are so many fundamental theological differences between Christianity and Mormonism, I often wonder: 

How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word “Mormon” to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).

For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesn’t appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clark’s “Pure Church of Christ” spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.

Do those responsible for the “Mormons are Christians” campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smith’s teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven

Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion’s Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion’s Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley’s Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ “With the Elijah Message” (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

Or these defunct sects:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?

Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didn’t believe in the practice of plural marriage – either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.

Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldn’t agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.

The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto – groups that still practice plural marriage.

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