Posted on 11/30/2011 1:52:20 PM PST by Alex Murphy
One fact is that catholic countries are the ones that are socialist and socialists have desire for young boys. So I am not surprised that the Catholic church is involved in these things. Tell me why Catholics have this love for socialism.
The Non-Catholic Clergy accused of abuse were ARRESTED for their crimes unlike the Catholic Clergy accused who were shuffled to different parishes to continue their behavior and the victim and/or their parents were paid off to keep quiet!
Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.Its a dynamic so common it has its own nicknamespassing the trash or the mobile molester.
Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.Its a dynamic so common it has its own nicknamespassing the trash or the mobile molester.
Some were arrested, as were some of the priests. Like school teachers, boy scout leaders, college coaches and the many, many others that abuse children though, many were passed around. See the article above.
That said, if they would just let those teachers, coaches, protestant ministers get married, this tragedy could have been avoided, right?
The useful question would be the rates compared.
And if you're going to call anyone “enabler of evil” you won't have to look far since so many of the bishops covered and even gave recommendations to priests they knew were abusers.
“lazy reporters and catholic bashers”? It took them (like the Boston Globe for one) to do what the Catholic leaders would not and fought every effort to accomplish by others, that is expose the serial child molesters.
Oh...well thanks to you both then!
That cartoon kills two birds with one stone by misrepresenting both the Catholic Church abuse scandal and the Penn State abuse scandal.
sure we did, but you must learn to differentiate between the Catholic church and individual Catholic parishes. Are the weak people within the church?, of course there are, we are all human. Is the Catholic church itself weak or evil?, of course not. Remember, when a priest is involved in this sort of thing, suit comes against the Catholic archdiocese, when the accused is a protestant minister, your only recourse is against his local congregation.....not much money there except for insurance!
With countries like Sweden and North Korea being particularly devoutly Catholic...
"So-called investigation" of what, Maciel? Are you kidding?
The LC's have been basically put under the direct supervision of the Vatican, after an "Apostolic visitation" (which is a euphemism for a official investigation). That doesn't sound like "a timid and [sic] averting of official eyes" to me. Sounds more like a takeover by the head office.
Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it:
On May 1, 2010 the Vatican said that the Pope will name a delegate and appoint a commission to review the Legionaries of Christ following revelations that the order's founder sexually abused numerous underage seminarians and fathered at least three children with two women. In a statement, the Vatican denounced the Rev. Marciel Maciel for creating a "system of power" that enabled him to lead an "immoral" double life "devoid of scruples and authentic religious sentiment" and allowed him to abuse young boys for decades unchecked. The Vatican issued the statement after Pope Benedict XVI met with five bishops who investigated the Legion to determine its future.[31] The Vatican statement was remarkable in its tough denunciation of Maciel's crimes and deception.
The "very serious and objectively immoral acts" of Fr. Marcial Maciel, which were "confirmed by incontrovertible testimonies" represent "true crimes and manifest a life without scruples or authentic religious sentiment," the Vatican said.[33] The Vatican said the Legion created a "mechanism of defense" around Maciel to shield him from accusations and suppress damaging witnesses from reporting abuse. "It made him untouchable," the Vatican said. The statement decried "the lamentable disgracing and expulsion of those who doubted" Maciel's virtue. The Vatican statement did not address whether the Legion's current leadership will face any sanctions.[34] Actions taken by the current Legion leadership will be scrutinized; but no specific sanctions were mentioned, amid suspicion that at least some of the current leaders must have been aware of Maciel's sins. The Vatican acknowledged the "hardships" faced by Maciel's accusers through the years when they were ostracized or ridiculed, and commended their "courage and perseverance to demand the truth."[35]That doesn't sound very "timid" to me.
the catholic church has set up a clearinghouse, to document this evil that exists.....where is the protestent clearinghouse???? the catholics are addressing this (albeit slowly, but addressing it nontheless )where is the protestant clearinghouse, and what are they doing about the evil that exists in their congregations? answer is plain, NOTHING.......it is far easier to deflect than to accept, it would appear
The Globe had no problem with some of those same molesters when they were heroic and charismatic "gay" priests standing up against the wicked and homophobic Roman hierarchy.
Just like they have no problem now with homosexual pederasty. They only find it convenient to be indignant about it when they can use it to take down the Catholic Church a notch. Google "Boston Globe" and "Gerry Studds" sometime. Congressmen who molest 17-year-old boys are heroes to the Globe.
O.K., the Catholic leadership is at least on a moral level of the Boston Globe. Still, what would have been the case without the Globe? It seems the “tax collectors and harlots” are going ahead of them.
“the catholic church has set up a clearinghouse, to document this evil that exists..”
I doubt the bishops and priests involved in the doing and covering up the abuse need documentation and for certain the victims do not.
If the Catholic church is the apostolic and true church of Christ should it not be held to a higher standard than the heretical and schismatic Protestants? Won’t more be demanded from those who were put in charge of much according to the rule stated at Matt. 12:48?
No deflecting now.
Just for the record, there is no such “corporate” body known as “the protestant church”.
Also for the record, “charistmatic” wasn’t even around at the time of the reformation, and many “baptistic” groups weren’t part of that historic reformation.
Also, in America any yardbird can hang out a sign and call himself a pastor, evangelist, youth leader, teacher, etc., and since the ignorant definition of “protestant” used by the uninformed in this country is usually “anything that isn’t Roman Catholic or Orthodox”, then in America any numbers you might have seen are so seriously flawed that it isn’t even worth discussing.
“The Vatican statement was remarkable in its tough denunciation of Maciel’s crimes and deception.” I'll skip the large letters, thank you.
Of course now that the stench has reached the noses of the public after Maciel is dead. And what of the enablers? Those who let the wolves feed on their sheep?
No, I'm not kidding, not at all.
“The Vatican statement was remarkable in its tough denunciation of Maciel’s crimes and deception.” I'll skip the large letters, thank you.
Of course now that the stench has reached the noses of the public after Maciel is dead. And what of the enablers? Those who let the wolves feed on their sheep?
No, I'm not kidding, not at all.
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