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Presbyterians Make it to the Party with First Openly Gay Minister
Care 2 Care ^ | 11 Oct 2011 | Mhaire Fraser

Posted on 11/07/2011 7:12:38 AM PST by Cronos

On Saturday, October 8th in Madison, Wisconson, Scott Anderson became the first openly gay ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church.

This ordination is especially poignant for Anderson who came out to his California congregation when he was in his late thirties, over twenty years ago. He resigned as a result.

Nancy Enderle, the interim executive director of the Covenant Network of Presbyterians, told The Associated Press that the ordination was a glorious celebration that touched everyone, especially Anderson.

“He’s a very dignified and poised person but you could tell he was deeply moved,” she said

“The Episcopalians, the Lutherans, the United Church of Christ have all made this step and all have experienced losses, yet have survived.”

The United Church of Christ led the way in 1972, the Methodists followed the way in 1989 with Joanne Brown, the Episcopalians got there in 2003, and again in 2005 with Bishop Gene Robinson, and finally the Lutherans founded an organization committed to the full participation of persons of all sexual orientations and gender identities in the life and ministry of the Lutheran church. ELM stands in opposition to the policies of discrimination against gay, lesbian and transgender individuals in Lutheran churches around the world.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: gomorrah; homonazism; homosexualism; lesbyterian; lesbyterianism; lesbytery; paganchurchusa; pcusa; pederastagenda; pederastminister; pederasty; presbyterian; sodom; sodomy
The pervs are welcoming a PC kirk
1 posted on 11/07/2011 7:12:44 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

that the ordination was a glorious celebration that touched everyone”

is glorious better or worse than fabulous?


2 posted on 11/07/2011 7:15:54 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Cronos

“The Episcopalians, the Lutherans, the United Church of Christ have all made this step and all have experienced losses, yet have survived.”

Barely. These denominations are losing members every year.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 7:17:00 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Cronos

All of the ecclesial communities mentioned in the article have groups of people who oppose these liberal tendencies. I couldn’t imagine seeing anything like this take place, for example, in the PCA, LCMS, WELS or ACNA.


4 posted on 11/07/2011 7:18:51 AM PST by djrakowski
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To: Cronos
“The Episcopalians, the Lutherans, the United Church of Christ have all made this step and all have experienced losses, yet have survived.”

The Roman Empire survived Nero too. I suppose that made him a great emperor. < / sarcasm >

5 posted on 11/07/2011 7:21:43 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ConservativeDude

Depends on how many rainbow flags were present!!


6 posted on 11/07/2011 7:23:59 AM PST by Cronos
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To: ReformationFan

though they forgot the Unitarians....


7 posted on 11/07/2011 7:24:14 AM PST by Cronos
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To: djrakowski
not in the LCSM or WELS as they don't have the same "let's vote on scripture approach", but unfortunately there are signs in the PCA -- they have had recent votes on adding deaconnesses

Once that is won, then the next will be pastoresses and finally gay married pastors.

if the entire community can vote on creating doctrine, then this is what happens...

8 posted on 11/07/2011 7:26:08 AM PST by Cronos
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the whole voting on doctrine thing just don’t work out. I wonder why.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 7:29:19 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Cronos
"though they forgot the Unitarians...."

And all of the gay/pedophile priests that populate the Catholic organization.

Every, repeat every, organization which creates a "thing" of itself is broken beyond repair. No denominations, organizations, were ever contemplated by the apostles. Read the text...it is conspicuously absent. The only "things" these men knew were the independent congregatsion which gathered in homes/businesses to be taught the Scriptures and celebrate their rescue. And they removed the men who became deviates (eg I&II Cor.) Nevertheless, Rome led the charge and now reaps a whirlwind right along with all of the screwed up "protestant" groups.

10 posted on 11/07/2011 7:32:52 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Cronos

Homos worked well for the Catholic Church, now time to infiltrate the others with same, but do it openly.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 7:38:22 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Cronos

I’ll just say it: ICHABOD.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 7:39:57 AM PST by hoagy62 (The United States of America. Great idea...while it lasted.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Yup, they have now changed the very doctrine in the groups like the PCUSA, ELCA, ECUSA etc.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 7:52:09 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Neoliberalnot
he was deeply moved

Please don't tell us how deep . .

14 posted on 11/07/2011 7:54:44 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Cronos

One has to wonder how this squares with the perv’s homosexual religion. Ever notice how being queer is the most important thing in their life?


15 posted on 11/07/2011 8:12:08 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

what I don’t get it why don’t they form their own little denomination? Considering the number of splits the Presbyterians have had in the past half-century, another denomination calling itself the gay-friendl-presbyterians would be normal.


16 posted on 11/07/2011 8:24:18 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Neoliberalnot

“One has to wonder how this squares with the perv’s homosexual religion. Ever notice how being queer is the most important thing in their life?”

Oh, it’ll still be the most important thing in his life. He’ll use his pulpit to promote all manner of perversion.

One of my wife’s cousins was recently ordained as an Episcopal priestess. She started promoting homosexual perversion as soon as she arrived at seminary, and hasn’t stopped since. Yet I’ve heard her speak almost nothing of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 8:24:27 AM PST by djrakowski
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To: Cronos

Their goal is to force acceptance on others. They are not Christians, they are homosexualists and those that follow are homophiles.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 8:34:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Cronos
“He’s a very dignified and poised person but you could tell he was deeply moved,” she said

Yes. He will be moved. To the Lake of Fire. That is his next address. This person, those who chose him, this "religion" are ALL going to meet Judgment from the On High for this. The Bible is CLEAR on homosexuality. There is NO mistake what it says. Clearly: a man will not lay with another man! PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. He is a sinner and in need of repentance. If he has a congregation, he is leading them to hell.

19 posted on 11/07/2011 8:47:55 AM PST by RetiredArmy (As the End Times draws near, remember the Bible WARNED of these times. Be ready!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.

This is not a fight among men, but spiritial warfare. It is not survival on earth that is the prize, it is salvation, eternal life. Pray for all of us to be given and receive the gift of understanding that only the Holy Spirit reveals. The word of God should not be confusing. Reject false religions, do not follow those who reject the way of the Lord. Pray for them and exhibit Godliness.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 8:59:04 AM PST by All Blue State
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To: campaignPete R-CT
the whole voting on doctrine thing just don’t work out. I wonder why.

Probably because truth isn't decided by a majority vote.
Am I being harsh?

21 posted on 11/07/2011 9:34:22 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: All Blue State
This is not a fight among men, but spiritial warfare. It is not survival on earth that is the prize, it is salvation, eternal life.

You are so right. Lucifer knows that his time is limited and he will use all his powers and fellow fallen angels to deprive God of as many souls as possible.

It's the oldest war of all: good versus evil.

22 posted on 11/07/2011 9:34:29 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Dutchboy88

10 posts to drag the Catholic church into a discussion about Presbyterians.

You must be slowing down, Dutchboy.

Last I checked the Catholic church still was opposed to homosexuality. Apparently it’s just fine for the Presbyterians.


23 posted on 11/07/2011 10:06:09 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

We’ve still got those reading lessons set aside for you at Christmas. Keep checking your stocking, my FRiend.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 10:29:03 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
The only "things" these men knew were the independent congregatsion which gathered in homes/businesses to be taught the Scriptures and celebrate their rescue

"Independent congregations" can go just as apostate just as fast as large organizations. Maybe faster, since there are no checks and balances to slow them down.

They usually grow up around a charismatic individual as pastor. If the charismatic individual is Godly and orthodox, great. If he's not, you get Joseph Smith.

The only good news is that you can leave and and it's easy to start a new "independent congregation".

That's a practical note. As a Biblical note, nothing about the New Testament churches was "independent". That's why Paul and the other apostles could write letters and issue them commands.

25 posted on 11/08/2011 5:40:02 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Campion
""Independent congregations" can go just as apostate just as fast as large organizations. Maybe faster, since there are no checks and balances to slow them down"

Certainly, and they did just that. And, Peter noted that many of the teachers were wolves in sheeps clothing. Clouds without rain.

That doesn't justify a gigantus, wrong-headed organization which intentionally teaches that it eclipses the written word of God, adds spurious doctrines from hell, and leads people off into the darkness. I'll take the "easy to start" congregations anytime. And, the only way to know if a teacher is "orthodox" is to compare him to something, namely the Scriptures. Hmmm.

As to the independence of the congregations, Paul is noting just that when he uses the plural term "also ALL of the assemblies of the Gentiles." in the letter to the Romans (16:4). Notice, he recognizes they are all over the world, not centered in Rome. Rome's egomaniacal stranglehold on its parishoners needs another Reformation from within.

26 posted on 11/08/2011 7:22:17 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: BenKenobi

Last I checked the Catholic church still was opposed to homosexuality. Apparently it’s just fine for the Presbyterians.””

The woes of the Catholic Church were brought about by homosexual infiltration. Good Catholics are not to blame but the lawyers are raking millions from their coffures.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 7:29:33 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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