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To: sr4402
Faith without obedience is no faith at all.

Through Yah’shua’s blood we will never be condemned to death for sin. The cost of the sin was removed, but His blood did not remove the rules of YHVH’s house. Shama = hear & obey has always been the faith of YHVH’s children.

Thus the hypocrisy of religious doctrine that says part of the Torah still exists while other parts that will make one uncomfortable because they will have to give up pagan religious practices they so love only proves their love of the flesh is greater than that of YHVH. How did that work out for the 3000 at the base of Mt Sinai who were worshiping a golden calf in the name of YHVH. He didn't see it as being so innocent.

Repent means turning BACK TO YHVH’s Torah, not saying I'm sorry for sinning for words are nothing without action.

Romans 14:23 "For the Righteous shall live by Faith"

In Romans 1:17 Paul is quoting directly from the Tanakh, Habakkuk 2:4 which contains the exact same word for faith that is in Deut 32:4 & Ps 119:86. It speaks to the curse for those who think salvation comes by works without the testimony the Yah'shua is the Messiah. But it is very interesting you chose it because Faith without works is also no faith at all. And the same goes for the verse you posted from Galatians. But what is the context of Galatians?

Romans 14:23 without the edits(purposeful omissions in order to change the meaning of the text) by man, in this case, you: 23 But he that doubteth is condemned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith; and whatsoever is not of faith is sin

4:8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years! 11I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.
6:11See with what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand. 12 It is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh who would force you to be circumcised, and only in order that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13For even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.

When read in context as this is one entire letter, not a bunch of sub-chapters, Paul is calling the Galatians out for falling for oral rabbinical law that was added to Torah as a requirement that had to be done before on received salvation. Before they came to Messiah, they were under slavery & bondage of the same kind of laws of men under pagan worship. Now the Galatians were turning away from the liberty of Torah that Yah'shua preached and were turning back to old practices of following the law of man rather than trusting in the Torah of YHVH lest they believe as the rabbinical told them that salvation can not be achieved unless works is 1st completed. Which is the exact opposite of the covenant of the Promise. Abraham received grace because he trusted completely and walked the faith. Faith is not carnal, faith is picking up your cross & doing knowing the YHVH is smarter than we are, thus HIS Torah is the path that leads to the narrow gate.

19 posted on 10/17/2011 11:23:29 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: sr4402
well that got all messed up when I moved a couple of lines.

Through Yah’shua’s blood we will never be condemned to death for sin. The cost of the sin was removed, but His blood did not remove the rules of YHVH’s house. Shama = hear & obey has always been the faith of YHVH’s children.
Thus the hypocrisy of religious doctrine that says part of the Torah still exists while other parts that will make one uncomfortable because they will have to give up pagan religious practices they so love only proves their love of the flesh is greater than that of YHVH. How did that work out for the 3000 at the base of Mt Sinai who were worshiping a golden calf in the name of YHVH. He didn't see it as being so innocent.

Romans 14:23 “For the Righteous shall live by Faith” : Romans 14:23 without the edits(purposeful omissions in order to change the meaning of the text) by man, in this case you: 23 But he that doubteth is condemned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith; and whatsoever is not of faith is sin

In Romans 1:17 Paul is quoting directly from the Tanakh, Habakkuk 2:4 which contains the exact same word for faith that is in Deut 32:4 & Ps 119:86. It speaks to the curse for those who think salvation comes by works without the testimony the Yah’shua is the Messiah. But it is very interesting you chose it because Faith without works is also no faith at all. And the same goes for the verse you posted from Galatians. But what is the context of Galatians?

4:8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years! 11I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain.
6:11See with what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand. 12 It is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh who would force you to be circumcised, and only in order that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13For even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.

When read in context as this is one entire letter, not a bunch of sub-chapters. Paul is calling the Galatians out for falling for oral rabbinical law that was added to Torah. Their law that said circumcision was a requirement that had to be done before one received salvation. Before the Galatians came to Messiah, they were under slavery & bondage of the same kind of laws of men of pagan religions. Now the Galatians were turning away from the liberty of Torah that Yah’shua preached and were turning back to old practices of following the law of man rather than trusting in the Torah of YHVH. Abraham received grace because he trusted completely and walked the faith. Faith is not carnal, faith is picking up your cross & doing; knowing that YHVH is smarter than we are thus HIS Torah is the path that leads to the narrow gate.

Repent means turning BACK TO YHVH’s Torah, not saying I'm sorry for sinning for words are nothing without action.

20 posted on 10/17/2011 11:47:41 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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