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Immigrants Want Cross Removed from Swiss Flag
Hudson New York ^ | 0/26/11 | Soeren Kern

Posted on 09/27/2011 5:51:38 AM PDT by marshmallow

An immigrant group based in Bern has called for the emblematic white cross to be removed from the Swiss national flag because as a Christian symbol it "no longer corresponds to today's multicultural Switzerland."

Ivica Petrusic, the vice president of Second@s Plus, a lobbying group that represents mostly Muslim second-generation foreigners in Switzerland (who colloquially are known as secondos) says the group will launch a nationwide campaign in October to ask Swiss citizens to consider adopting a flag that is less offensive to Muslim immigrants.

In a September 18 interview with the Swiss newspaper Aargauer Zeitung, Petrusic said the cross has a Christian background and while the Christian roots of Switzerland should be respected, "it is necessary to separate church and state" because "Switzerland today has a great religious and cultural diversity. One has to ask if the State wants to continue building up a symbol in which many people no longer believe."

In the interview, Petrusic said Switzerland needs new symbols with which everyone, including non-Christians, can identify. As an alternative to the current Swiss flag (see image here), Petrusic proposed the former flag of the Helvetic Republic (see image here) which was officially introduced in 1799 and consisted of green, red and yellow colors. "Those colors are similar to the current flags of Bolivia and Ghana and would represent a more progressive and open-minded Switzerland," Petrusic said.

The proposal to change the Swiss flag has been met with outrage across the political spectrum and is sure to fuel anti-immigrant sentiments in Switzerland.

Sylvia Flückiger a councillor with the conservative Swiss People's Party (SVP) said the demands are: "Totally unacceptable. With our Swiss flag there is nothing to change. The next thing you know, they will demand even more, that we change our constitution."

Marianne Binder, spokeswoman...........

(Excerpt) Read more at hudson-ny.org ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: cursed; islamofascists; religionofhate; terrorists

1 posted on 09/27/2011 5:51:40 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Personally, I think we all need less of the offensive Muslim immigrants.


2 posted on 09/27/2011 5:53:22 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: marshmallow

Do not do that! Tell them to go back whence they came from like right now.


3 posted on 09/27/2011 5:54:38 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: marshmallow

Switzerland needs to ban blond hair and white skin. Hair and skin dye required. It makes the immigrants feel uncomfortable and we can’t have that can we?


4 posted on 09/27/2011 5:54:48 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: marshmallow

Always interesting that cowards and malcontents who fled their hellhole nation of origin feel entitled to tell their gracious new hosts how to run their country.

Does the word ‘gratitude’ ever appear in the Koran?


5 posted on 09/27/2011 5:55:14 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: marshmallow

Words fail me!


6 posted on 09/27/2011 5:57:26 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012...or maybe Cain/Perry??)
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To: marshmallow

progressive and open-minded?

The folly of some folk, if allowed to flourish, will eventually lead to the destruction of society and in its place.. a gelatinous form of living where we all meld together , give up our identities and sing Kumbaya as our anthem.. Hitler was working on just the very thing. Now his admirers are carrying on his ‘work’.. sick bastards.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 5:57:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: marshmallow

How do you say, ‘F-ck off’, in Swiss German?


8 posted on 09/27/2011 5:59:24 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: marshmallow
We'll get right on that as soon as crescents are removed from these flags.

9 posted on 09/27/2011 5:59:43 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: marshmallow

GET....A.....LIFE!


10 posted on 09/27/2011 6:00:18 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: relictele

It should come as no surprise that Ivica Petrusic is a Bosnian who, as noted above, fled ethnic strife in his homeland yet wants to introduce same to Switzerland.

He is a - wait for it - Social Democrat political hack
http://www.sp-aarau.ch/cms/front_content.php?idart=232
which explains his position and so-called protest. He’s simply trying to get noticed.

In reality, it’s more of the same: leftists attempting to subvert societal order.


11 posted on 09/27/2011 6:01:44 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: mkboyce

“How do you say, F-off in Swiss/German?”

From the article, “Sylvia Fluckiger, a councillor with the conservative SVP said the demands are “totally unacceptable”. (not in print) Then Sylvia told them to “Fluckiger themselves”.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 6:01:55 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: marshmallow
Muslim second-generation foreigners in Switzerland (who colloquially are known as secondos)
They need to be told "getthef*ckouto" if they don't like it.
13 posted on 09/27/2011 6:02:02 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: marshmallow

A little at a time, but they are always pressing, relentless. Meanwhile, the liberal infection has the populace placid, and accepting of these demands.

One day, probably within the next couple generations, muslims will be demanding that Christians in Switzerland live in their designated areas, and stay out of the muslim “holy lands”.

It will happen, and the Swiss will be getting what the deserve, first, for allowing this craziness, and second, for turning their backs on God.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 6:02:19 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: marshmallow

No matter how they justify it, in the end it’s always the same:

Me, Me, Me, You have to change to accommodate ME!

Anything else I have to say would just be profane.


15 posted on 09/27/2011 6:02:54 AM PDT by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: marshmallow
Immigrants Want Cross Removed from Swiss Flag

The Swiss are becoming Cross and want immigrants removed.

16 posted on 09/27/2011 6:03:02 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: marshmallow

But we’re not supposed to hate them, right? I mean, demanding that a Country relinquish its traditions because relative newcomers find them ‘offensive’ is a move totally designed to ingratiate, no?/s


17 posted on 09/27/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: marshmallow

An open, tolerant society is a TWO WAY STREET!

This is something progressives and their Islamo-facist allies seem to forget.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 6:10:22 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: TSgt
We'll get right on that as soon as crescents are removed from these flags.

Right on.

Remover all crescents and the color green from every manufactured thing. (Yeah, and those mouthy "greenie" things also.;-)

19 posted on 09/27/2011 6:10:41 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: relictele
Does the word ‘gratitude’ ever appear in the Koran?

Maybe it says the Dhimmis should show gratitude that they're allowed to live and pay the jizya.

20 posted on 09/27/2011 6:12:31 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

From the article:
“The Muslim population in Switzerland has more than quintupled since 1980, and now numbers about 400,000, or roughly 5% of the population. Most Muslims living in Switzerland are of Turkish or Balkan origin, with a smaller minority from the Arab world. Many of them are second- and third-generation immigrants who are now firmly establishing themselves in Switzerland.”


21 posted on 09/27/2011 6:22:06 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marshmallow

I would encourage reading of the whole article because it lists a number of actions the Swiss people have taken to push back Islam a bit which is very encouraging! They are getting tough with the Muzzies!


22 posted on 09/27/2011 6:25:16 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marshmallow

I have a better idea—muslims OUT of Switzerland—and America!!!!

Ivica Petrusic is a “Bosnian” muslim. We’ve had more than enough lies, scams, and just plain troublemaking from “Bosnian” muslims, who whine and whine about all the “atrocities” perpetrated against them by the Serbs of Republika Srpska. clinton bombed the Serbs, their leaders Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic are being tried in The Hague, and the alleged “genocide” at Srebrenica is held up in all the world even by know-nothings like Rubio as the worst “atrocity” since Hitler.

In reality, the Bosnian War was started by the islamist Izetbegovic and his clique because they wanted an islamic state in Europe! Together with their Al Qaeda and Iranian allies—and supported by clinton, they murdered thousands of Orthodox Christian Serbs around Srebrenica, chopping off their heads, burning them in their homes and churches, etc. Yes, it was a brutal civil war, with atrocities on all sides, but only Serbs are blamed by the “international community”.

Now the “Bosnian” muslims get to play the “victim” all over the world, being admitted as “immigrants” to civilized Western Europe and America, having the crimes they commit in these countries overlooked, and getting to tell their adopted countries to remove their crosses, etc.

But it’s time to say, ENOUGH!!!! Expose the “Bosnian” muslims and their scams, stop giving them any special privileges, and free Republika Srpska and its wartime leaders!!!!


23 posted on 09/27/2011 6:25:16 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: marshmallow
consider adopting a flag that is less offensive to Muslim immigrants.

SCREW the immigrants! This is my land. I was here first.

Doesn't appear this will gain much traction.

24 posted on 09/27/2011 6:26:56 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: marshmallow; ravager; TEXOKIE; wtd; allmost

ping


25 posted on 09/27/2011 6:29:26 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: marshmallow

The Swiss won’t like this...


26 posted on 09/27/2011 6:36:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: marshmallow

“Muslim second-generation foreigners”

BWAHAHAHAHA Shut up or get out....

sincerely
The Swiss


27 posted on 09/27/2011 6:38:19 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps the Swiss could add the image of a pig or Swiss Mountain Dog or, failing that, demonstrate inclusion by adding a Star of David.

Perhaps the folks, new to Switzerland, could go find some rat infested sand hole better to their liking and just move there.


28 posted on 09/27/2011 6:39:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: NRA1995
GET....A.....LIFE!

If you're talking about the mohammedans, they will. They will gleefully take the lives of innocents who refuse to bow down to their demon allah.

If you're talking to the remnants of the Civilized world, you're too late, the west committed suicide when it allowed mohammedans to infest and start breeding outside their own pest holes.
29 posted on 09/27/2011 6:42:20 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: marshmallow

To be replaced with a crescent no doubt


30 posted on 09/27/2011 7:01:28 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: marshmallow

I can’t say what I want to for fear of being banned. The world is crazy.


31 posted on 09/27/2011 7:19:48 AM PDT by semaj
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To: marshmallow

The fruits of naive, open arms liberalism which believes all cultures are equal and good. Europeans have swallowed the poison by which their own cultures will die.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 7:31:00 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (If we can't reimpose conservatives principles on the GOP under these circumstances., we never will.)
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To: marshmallow

Awhile back, there was an issue in Switzerland where some wanted to outlaw mosques, or maybe require them not to have the characteristic mosque towers, I can’t remember.

My Swiss exchange student this summer said that many urban dwellers thought those country Swiss back up there in the mountains were so unreasonable and bigoted for objecting to letting peaceful immigrants have a place to pray.

Wonder what she will think when she hears about this.


33 posted on 09/27/2011 7:33:18 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

This is actually a good reason to stop being “multi-cultural.”

The official position should be “If our culture, our traditions, or our symbols offend you, SwissAir is ready when you are - or even when you’re not.”


34 posted on 09/27/2011 7:48:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: TSgt

how about national flags with crosses?


35 posted on 09/27/2011 7:54:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marshmallow
the group will launch a nationwide campaign in October to ask Swiss citizens to consider adopting a flag that is less offensive to Muslim immigrants.

They'd be better served adopting an immigration policy that excludes the intentionally and chronically offended.

36 posted on 09/27/2011 8:01:12 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: marshmallow; Cronos
They can replace the cross with a Swiss girl in a bikini standing beside bbq pork chop on a grill.

The thing with the Muslims.... if they see that you are the kind that is willing to bend, they will make you bend more. The way to deal with Muslims is like how they do in Gujarat, India. Make them live in fear.

37 posted on 09/27/2011 8:19:52 AM PDT by ravager
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To: marshmallow

The next thing you know, they will demand even more, that we change our constitution.
For some reason Obama&Co. comes to mind.


38 posted on 09/27/2011 9:04:43 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Cronos

Thanks for the ping. Very interesting. Swiss tend not to take their freedoms for granted. Hope they do not lose touch with their history.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 8:14:40 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: ravager

Nah, Swiss women — at least the German ones are not pretty imho. the French ones are so-so while the Italian are pretty.


40 posted on 09/28/2011 12:49:36 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: marshmallow
Plus, a lobbying group that represents mostly Muslim second-generation foreigners in Switzerland (who colloquially are known as secondos) says the group will launch a nationwide campaign in October to ask Swiss citizens to consider adopting a flag that is less offensive to Muslim immigrants.

If the Muslim immigrants are so offended, how 'bout they just go on back to the pile of sand from whence they came?

41 posted on 09/28/2011 12:53:09 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: ravager
They can replace the cross with a Swiss girl in a bikini standing beside bbq pork chop on a grill.


42 posted on 09/28/2011 12:59:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

ok, there are exceptions :-)


43 posted on 09/28/2011 1:30:57 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos
” at least the German ones are not pretty imho. “

German ones have their use too. They can be recruited for security checks and random cavity searches on Muslim men.

44 posted on 09/28/2011 6:39:31 AM PDT by ravager
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To: cynwoody

Even better. Now all we need are the pork chops to meet the Muslim demand.


45 posted on 09/28/2011 6:41:44 AM PDT by ravager
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To: cynwoody

Even better. Now all we need are the pork chops to meet the Muslim demand.


46 posted on 09/28/2011 6:41:58 AM PDT by ravager
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