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Christ Calls Presbyterians To Repent Says John Meacham, Author Of 'Divine Revelation'
Pressit.com ^ | 18 Sep 2011 | John Meacham

Posted on 09/21/2011 1:14:17 AM PDT by Cronos

Jesus Christ is now calling Christians everywhere to experience spiritual birth, to store up heavenly riches, to live a divine spiritual life, to join the armies of heaven, to fight for church reform, and to prepare the church for His Second Coming

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This is a message from Jesus Christ to the Presbyterian Church. “I am the Son of God whose eyes blaze like fire, whose feet shine like polished brass. I know what you do. I know your love, your faithfulness, your service, and your patience. But this is what I have against you: you tolerate those lesbians."

“You have placed those lesbians in a position of divine ordination and now you kneel beside their beds and worship a world of sexual pleasure rather than praying to My Father to forgive your sins of sexual immorality. If you do not turn from these hideous sins and repent, you will forever know the suffering that Satan brings upon those who worship in his house of sensual pleasures."

“To those who see My Holy Light and come out of the darkness of sexual immorality, I will give them eternal peace and forever let them glow in the light of the bright morning star."

“I challenge you to shed your sin soiled clothes, to put on My White Linens, to join the armies of heaven, and to help Me restore My Church. If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”

I am a lifelong Presbyterian and at the PCUSA Website I read that we Presbyterians are “seeking thoughtful solutions to the challenges of our time.” However, I recall discussing the new Presbyterian Policy of Ordaining Homosexuals with a local Lesbian Presbyterian Pastor and she “thoughtfully” said that those Presbyterians who do not like this new policy can “just leave the Presbyterian Church.” In His Message to the Presbyterians, Christ calls us to help Him restore His Church and not drive our fellow Christians away from their church home.

At the PCUSA Website, I also read that we Presbyterians “seek to continue Christ’s mission of teaching the truth.” Yet, I remember at one of the Presbytery of New Hope’s votes to ordain homosexuals a local pastor quoted from I Corinthians saying: “Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts or who steal or are greedy or are drunkards or who slander others or are thieves – none of these will possess God’s Kingdom.” Now, we Presbyterians have voted to ordain these “homosexual perverts” and as a result of this act, Christ extols us to “repent” and put on His White Linens and join the armies of heaven.

The PCUSA Website further proclaims that we Presbyterians are “Christ’s faithful disciples in the world.” Since the Presbyterian Church’s enactment to ordain homosexuals, I have struggled with whether or not I should leave the Presbyterian Church. When I discussed this dilemma with a respected Christian Pastor, he said: “Either get out or lift up your prophetic voice against them or God’s judgment on their guilt will also fall on you.” So, I have decided to speak out against these lesbians and ask the Presbyterian Church (USA) to repent and rescind their new policy of ordaining homosexuals.

Jesus Christ is now calling Christians everywhere to experience spiritual birth, to store up heavenly riches, to live a divine spiritual life, to join the armies of heaven, to fight for church reform, and to prepare the church for His Second Coming.

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John Meacham is a Christian Author and Prophet for Jesus Christ who has authored four Christian books and served Christ’s Church as a Pastor, Preacher, Workshop Leader, Bible Study Instructor, and Teacher.

Contact:

John Meacham

Web: http://johnmeacham.tateauthor.com/

Email: john@dazzlinglight.org


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: lesbyterian; pcusa; presbyterian
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1 posted on 09/21/2011 1:14:23 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

This John Meacham is not to be confused with the Jon Meacham who drove Newsweek bankrupt.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 1:31:16 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Cronos

Uhh, yeah.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 1:46:18 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: iowamark

good thing you clarified that.


4 posted on 09/21/2011 3:23:51 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I am quite sure that neither Mr. Meacham would be honored by the confusion......


5 posted on 09/21/2011 4:06:41 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Cronos

Not to be too critical, but, the profile statement in the OP states that the author has pastored churches, written four books on Christian topics and is a prophet of Jesus.

In light of this resume, my first thoughts are why is this individual still associated with the PCUSA? It’s like a former alcholic having a debate with himself on the wisedom of remaining a member of the irish drinking guild (no offense to my Irish brethern) because he thinks there is a movement within the guild to condone the consumption of adult beverages. Some things in life are just so obvious as to render debate obsolete but hey, what do I know?

As a new Christian and barely out of my teen years, I left the PCUSA way back in 1985 because I could clearly see that even as a non-prophet the PCUSA was headed into the abyss. Just using simple powers of observation, it is clear that the PCUSA as a viable Christian organization is basically a gonner. There is nothing in the NT that teaches that one should be associated with churches that are in a state of disbelief, which clearly the PCUSA is in. While it is true that a single lone voice for the truth can be a powerful force, the task at hand is not as is assumed reform, no, it’s conversion. In effect what I’m saying is the leadership (this includes influencial pastors, seminary professors and so on) of the PCUSA is not christian so it’s condition is being mis-diagnossed. I’m sure some will be offended by my conclusion but this is how I see it.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 4:55:03 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: iowamark
This John Meacham is not to be confused with the Jon Meacham who drove Newsweek bankrupt.

I thought it was written by the Newsweek guy, and that made no sense.

7 posted on 09/21/2011 5:26:39 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Cronos
This is a message from Jesus Christ to the Presbyterian Church. ... In His Message to the Presbyterians, Christ calls us to help Him restore His Church

Strange. I can't find "Christ's Epistle to the Presbyterians" in my Bible. Protestants accuse the Pope of a lot of things, but the Pope doesn't write encyclicals that claim to be speaking the new and inspired words of Our Lord.

And my understanding of Protestant ecclesiology is that "Christ's Church" is invisible, and not to be confused with any earthly organization, which the PCUSA certainly is.

In case anyone thinks I'm being snarky toward Protestants in general, please keep in mind that the PCUSA has had abortion coverage in their insurance package for clergy for many years. To me, calling an apostate organization which enshrines baby killing as a "healthcare" option for their clergy ... calling them "Christ's Church" is objectively blasphemous.

Marcus Grodi, I believe, was a PCUSA pastor. When he was deciding it was time to bail, one of his PCUSA friends tried to argue him out of it, saying, "But, Marcus, you can't leave the Church!" Grodi blurted out, "If staying in the Church is so important, why did we leave the Church in the first place?!?" The PCUSA is way beyond any "reforming".

8 posted on 09/21/2011 5:30:22 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: fatboy

I’ve been wondering for a while how the PCUSA and other Mainline denominations are going to get enough young people to enter their seminaries.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 5:31:06 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Cronos

Haven’t we had enough of self-styled prophets?


10 posted on 09/21/2011 5:47:37 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("We are assailed by two sects...." John Calvin, Reply to Cardinal Sadoleto, 1539)
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To: Campion
thanks -- I did not know of Marcus Grodi before
11 posted on 09/21/2011 5:58:59 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Campion

FYI Campion, the PCUSA being apostate doesn’t make the Pope the leader of the truth squad. Of course, not many it any in the PCUSA have theological issues with Rome.


12 posted on 09/21/2011 6:09:39 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: Cronos

Died-in-the-wool Presbos don’t need to repent, and they don’t need to do anything else (other than have faith) to be saved.

They and other true Calvinists say they have been pre-selected for salvation. They believe (a) that no amount of sin will cause them to lose the grace already bestowed upon them, and (b) that no amount of “good works” and repentance will allow a non-selected mortal to join those who are predestined for heaven.

So they can with impunity commit all kinds of heresies — pay for pastors’ wives to have abortions, ordain homosexual clergy, etc. etc. — and still they will be saved. Sorry folks, believe it or not, but that’s just the way it is.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 6:13:16 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Dr. Scarpetta, you ask a good question. In the period between leaving a PCUSA fellowship and finally realizing that the Bible teaches that the church is actually an assembly made up of those individuals who are trusting in Christ and not a highly organized top/down religious organization, during that time for a year or two I associated myself with a Lutheran (ELCA) fellowship pastured by a high school friend of mine. What I learned from that experience is that many, if not not all in the mainlines are in fact ashamed of the Gospel.

In some ways the PCUSA assembly I was associated with was not as far into the pit as the ELCA group. I remember giving the message in the ELCA church one Sunday and offering up an invitation to accept Jesus as Savior. The reaction I received from some of the older members was one of nostalgia, as in we used to hear that sort of thing all the time but not anymore "sigh". From the younger associates, the reaction was more on the order of “are you some kind of religious zealot"?

So my opinion based on a little bit of research and a whole lot of gut instinct tells me that academia within the mainline denominations has hijacked the seminaries beyond repair and why anyone interested in a future career in the counseling industry would go the religion route when state schools offer the same education at a fraction of the cost and a higher return in salary for the investment?

As I understand the teaching of the Bible on the matter, what we should be doing as believers in the risen Christ is serve Him, not get attached to buildings and ritual and dare I say it, fellow members.

14 posted on 09/21/2011 6:38:47 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: fatboy

I always go back to the LIFE ISSUE. It seems logical that anyone wanting to be a pastor would be pro-life.

Why would a pro-choice person even want to be a pastor? The Mainline denominations are radically pro-choice, and I don’t see how they can attract young people to their seminaries.


15 posted on 09/21/2011 6:58:59 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Hawthorn

yes, that is sad — they believe they are part of a higher caste already pre-saved and that the rest are going to heck


16 posted on 09/21/2011 7:10:45 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Hawthorn
Hawthorn, allow me to comment, since you don't define died-in-the-wool presbos, I will do it for you.

At the heart of reformed “covenant” theology embraced by traditional Presbyterian teaching is the Gospel as spelled out in the New Testament. We can debate the legitimacy of “covenant” theology of which I do not believe the Bible teaches but many Calvinist that take the Bible seriously are cleansed by the blood and thus redeemed by the cross.

So, some who are died-in-the-wood are saved since they are trusting in Jesus, (which implies repentence), some who are died-in-the-wool are not because they are trusting in dogma (which does not imply repentence).

17 posted on 09/21/2011 7:11:18 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Dr. Scarpetta, not that life issues are un-important, they are but as a believer in Jesus, I’m pro-life due to the teaching of the Bible and the life changing power of the new birth, not because my church requires me to be pro-life.

The mainlines have survived by absorbing smaller groups. The day will come when there are no longer any smaller groups to absorbe. We see this now where under the guise of the ecumenical movement there is a move to consolidate different protestant groups and even a move to join up with Rome. This is to my thinking a move to ward off a starvation of numbers. One of the disadvantages of being big is that it cost a lot of money to keep the machine well oiled.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 7:25:38 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: fatboy

>> some who are died-in-the-wood are saved since they are trusting in Jesus <<

Well, I’ve heard Calvinist preachers say time and again that there’s nothing a man can do to save his soul. It’s all up to God. So if these Calvinists are right, then it shouldn’t matter if somebody does or doesn’t trust Jesus. As long as he is predestined, the Unbeliever will be saved just as will the predestined Believer.

Of course, there are those who will argue that the Believer has faith precisely because he IS predestined for salvation, while the Unbeliever lacks faith precisely because he ISN’T predestined. But to me, that’s circular reasoning — not really persuasive.


19 posted on 09/21/2011 7:27:49 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

200 years ago, In America, you couldn’t find a church that didn’t teach what is called “Calvinism” today unless you were catholic. I wonder what went wrong?


20 posted on 09/21/2011 7:48:49 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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