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Glenn Beck, Mormonism attacked by Bill Keller, minister who targeted Mitt Romney
Deseret News ^ | May 17, 2011 | Michael De Groote

Posted on 05/18/2011 9:08:43 AM PDT by delacoert

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Both of these books were concocted by fraud scam artists who fancied themselves prophets..
21 posted on 05/18/2011 1:12:07 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Give it another two hundred years, and they'll probably absorb the Battlestar Galactica narrative, too. ;o)
22 posted on 05/18/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by papertyger
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LOL, you described it yourself, America's second best known Mormon, with the #1 visibility and the #1 Mormon microphone has convinced you that he believes that he is a "Christian", and convinced you that he does not believe that he renounced Christianity to become the leading Mormon figure that he has become as he mixes in his version of "Christianity" and faith into his lectures to America's Christian conservatives.

Only 19.95 to his admirers.
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23 posted on 05/18/2011 1:36:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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Okay. Cite some examples of him mixing “his version of
“Christianity” and faith into his lectures to
America’s Christian conservatives.”


24 posted on 05/18/2011 1:50:09 PM PDT by papertyger
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It is easier and quicker to point out how he reached you with the primary message of the Mormon cult as it seeks to convert Christians, the message that they spend millions to spread, and that they hire expensive Public Relations firms to help them perfect.

"And I dare say Beck would disagree on renouncing Christianity. I think he has, but HE does not. He is never shy about refering to himself as a Christian."

I assume that you picked up that message by listening to his radio show, now you defend him here. Do you think that Beck has never been exposed to the Mormon teachings on why they are not of "Christianity", or to the Christian teachings on Mormonism and why he is not a Christian?

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25 posted on 05/18/2011 2:02:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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No. I asked for validation of your claims, but you offer more subjective speculation.

I don’t care about easier and faster: substantiate your original accusation, or be exposed as nothing but an intellectually dishonest bigot.


26 posted on 05/18/2011 2:12:04 PM PDT by papertyger
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Rather than searching all the threads here that document his massaging of history and of the faith that he has renounced while joining an anti-Christian cult, I will simply point out that you have bought his message, which is the very core message that his cult teaches him to spread.

” I KNOW what mormon doctrine is, and Beck NEVER refers to it other than tagentially.”

I also believe that he doesn’t openly push Mormonism to his conservative Christian audience, but I do agree with you that he does it tangentially, it is how a cultist works on Christians on a national show, and it is a traditional Mormon technique.


27 posted on 05/18/2011 2:35:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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Nonsense. You are putting up straw men by claiming I “bought” his message.

It's no more complicated than Beck knowing what doctrines are controversial, and avoiding them for the sake of meeting minds with good people on common ground.

And that is the same thing he's doing with Jews...so why is it some nefarious plot when he talks to Christians, but when he does it with Jews, who would be theologically immune, it's simple ecumenism?

28 posted on 05/18/2011 3:02:54 PM PDT by papertyger
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When you said that you yourself was involved in “cult ministry”, who’s side were you on?


29 posted on 05/18/2011 3:21:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: delacoert

Mormons’ theology is based on First Century Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ comport more closely with Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormons’ teenagers have been judged to “top the charts” in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:

http://MormonsAreChristian.blogspot.com

Those who would denigrate the Mormon religion, usually are mis-informed.

Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll:

http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx

11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were non-Trinitarian Christians. Those who insist on their narrow definition of Christianity are doing our Republic an injustice.


30 posted on 05/19/2011 4:13:37 AM PDT by Bot (Mormons Are Christian)
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So you’d rather descend into snarky remarks than deal with your own bigotry, and refrain from lying in the name of Christ about someone who has done you no harm?


31 posted on 05/19/2011 6:01:06 AM PDT by papertyger
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“lying in the name of Christ” and Mormonism, I guess you answered my question about your role in “cult ministry”


32 posted on 05/19/2011 7:34:52 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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