Posted on 04/01/2011 8:24:54 AM PDT by NYer
That is rather short-sighted.
I always liked Victor, actually.
I don’t think much of the Borgias, so I’m not going to sweat anyone putting them down, as long as they don’t paint a broad brush against the entire Church using the Borgias as the medium.
Just as a guess, and knowing something about marketing in the entertainment and retail businesses, I'd say that Showtime is paying Macy's for the advertising space. Getting press attention for the show by getting a few people angry is gravy for Showtime--like the Fox Network's early days, they're trying to make a name for themselves by being "edgier" than their rival HBO.
Do you have a link for this? I'm finding stories about Macy's firing a Santa for making some very slightly risque jokes, but nothing about firing an employee for saying "Merry Christmas."
“That is rather short-sighted.”
Bah, ping me when Macy’s starts dissing Jesus, then I might get worried enough to ask God to forgive them.
Look up the thread. They have a history.
“Look up the thread. They have a history.”
What history? I see someone make a claim with no attribution, and nobody else can seem to find any evidence of it.
Well, the first was incompetent, but sincere and unworldly. We wouldn’t want to mention him.
hahahah!
You need to spend more time at either (A) a public university, or (B) the FR religion forum. Seriously, I bet MOST Americans believe MOST medieval/Renaissance popes did far worse than what even the Borgias actually did do.
Read the ridiculous slander of Foxe’s Book of the Martyrs, and then understand that this book was required reading in U.S. public schools in the 19th century, and was usually one of two books a typical American owned.
Hyperbole is fine in friendly (or not so friendly perhaps) discussions but logic dictates that most popes are a good deal more highly regarded than the Borgias.
individuals are healthy when they acknowledge their faults. Cultures, likewise. Eddie Murphy, back when race-baiting wasn't such an effective political strategy (that was also when Reagan was president) made a career out of spoofing black-American stereotypes. The most well adjusted black Americans laughed right along with him at the fools among themselves. The cranks got their afros in a wad, and look where we are today.
chill the farc out.
No, only if its embarrassing to anyone else.
Ping.
That's exactly what the FRoman Catholics demand.
Come to think of it, they expect the same treatment when it comes to current events.
That's exactly what the FRoman Catholics demand.
Come to think of it, they expect the same treatment when it comes to current events.
Maybe I’m missing something here . . .
I thought it was a
RELIGIOUS DUTY OF OBLIGATION or some such
for RC’s to be outrageously offended
as a RELIGIOUS RITE
as a RELIGIOUS RITUAL
24/7/365.
At least . . . as far as I have learned from OBSERVING FR RC’s.
Oh, you’re giving too much credit. Let’s say that the Borgias are the grain (or, a grain, since there were other bad apples) of truth behind legends which were used to indiscriminately characterize all medieval and renaissance popes.
Oh, you’re giving too much credit. Let’s say that the Borgias are the grain (or, a grain, since there were other bad apples) of truth behind legends which were used to indiscriminately characterize all medieval and renaissance popes.
CASE IN POINT: Do you think the miniseries will mention the Pope Calixtus, the Borgia who weakened the temporal power of the papacy by irritating the kings of Europe because he lived an austere lifestyle? Or Saint Francis Borgia, founder of Gregorian University, teacher of hundreds of missionaries to entire globe, miarculous exorcist and humble mustic? No, the subtitle is “the original crime family.”
Truth is, there’s a great classical tragedy behind the fall of Alexander VI, and it might make for great drama. But great drama makes for lousy propaganda.
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