Posted on 02/07/2011 3:54:06 PM PST by greyfoxx39
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An honest description of ecumenism, mormon-style.
There is nothing anti-Christian about it. A lot of fundamentalists and traditional evangelicals have made much the same criticism of the so-called “prosperity gospel”.
Yep
“he ensured (sic) his followers that the scripturally promised blessings would be financial: a better job, a new car, a higher salary, etc”
(a) I doubt that. Show me the mp3. I’m sure it was more nuanced than that. I also doubt the “new car” thing was ever said. In fact, I call lies on that.
(b) apart from the “ensured” (sic) part, why would the writer think God would not want them to have a better job and a higher salary?
Is Malachi 3:10 not in the writer’s Bible? Does he interpret it some weird way?
The article includes lies. see #6
The notion that the so-called “Prosperity Gospel” de-emphasizes sin and salvation in favor of material prosperity is a common critique. If you Google the term, you will find far harsher criticism from traditional evangelicals and fundamentalists. This critique is actually quite mild in comparison.
Post 6 is someone’s assertion without evidence that parts of the article are false. Obviously, they could be, but just saying “I doubt that” isn’t really evidence for anything, just a personal opinion.
Again, what is anti-christian about opposing the prosperity gospel? Jesus certainly didn’t preach that we’d have riches on earth if we followed him. Generally speaking, “prosperity preachers” are playing on people’s greed and their guilt. Greed, because they want something NOW, and guilt, because they are told that the only reason they don’t prosper is because they didn’t give the preacher enough money.
It’s not much different from someone saying that God wants us all to be healthy. It sounds nice — until you have someone show up with a Down’s child, asking why you are saying they aren’t under God’s blessing. Devout people get laid off, get disease, get cheated, robbed, murdered.
All of this is for God’s purpose. We might not have any idea how that works, but that doesn’t make it so.
Name it and Claim it........God is NOT Santa Claus - place marker
The "anti-Christian" part is the attitude of the mormon missionaries in their holier-than-thou criticism of the pentacostal service as a whole and the inference that these 30,000 worshippers have all bought into the PG because they, of course don't have the mormon "restored Gospel".
From an article posted by Colofornian on FR in October titled "The Mormon Wealth Attribution","Do we really believe that just because one is rich one is blessed by God? According to a study published in 2004 which researched the Mormon Wealth Attribution (MWA), we do. The MWA can be defined as the tendency of LDS individuals to perceive those who are wealthy as more righteous or pious than their less wealthy neighbors. The randomized empirical study reported that Church members are more likely to attribute righteousness to a wealthy church member than to a poor one and that (in general) wealthy members of the church are seen as being better people, both secularly and spiritually than poor people.
“they are told that the only reason they dont prosper is because they didnt give the preacher enough money”
No, they are not. That is your own personal bias backed up by nothing but false MSM stories.
Again, Charles you are behind the times on the Religion Forum. See my post #11.
“Its not much different from someone saying that God wants us all to be healthy. It sounds nice until you have someone show up with a Downs child, asking why you are saying they arent under Gods blessing.”
The answers to questions like that are in the Bible. I haven’t time to explain that one to you right now. It takes a good while, not a few short soundbites and emotional pleas. And I suspect you wouldn’t give two shakes anyway, and would find a way to avoid any uncomfortable cognitive dissonance.
“All of this is for Gods purpose” is essentially saying “inshallah”.
I was the religious equivalent of being home schooled. When I do attend a Church service, it is at an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church. The Reformed tradition is another that does not look too kindly on phenomenon such as the prosperity gospel. That was a good choice.
Christian service=Clown circus. ( Mormon think )
What lies? You are making an assertion about his observation of the service when you were not present. Unless you were there, or have a tape of the service, you are in no position to make such a claim.
I am in a position to do so, because I have seen the services before, and I know that is not what they believe.
The MP3s are available online if anyone really cared to find out for themselves.
Methinks McKay ought to take a look at "mormon royalty" some day.
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