Text Of The Nauvoo Expositor That Got Joe And Hyrum Killed

The Mormon Curtain ^ | Nov 18, 2010

[restornu]

Oh come on Vendome that was very disingenuous of you!

I guess that was supposed to be your Christian understanding of being charitable….

[Vendome]

did you write that?

[Vendome]

oh and my post was sincere. You explained your challenges a while ago and I don’t question it except when the writing is starkly different

[Graybeard58]

did you write that?

Certainly not a style I'm familiar with.

[restornu]

Believe what you want as I have said in the pass I have better days and off days, also I have said I have been doing the Posit Science.

old habits die hard!

[restornu]

If you are referring to, the Lady Macbeth quote no I did not write that!

[restornu]

How could you be confuse about delacoert confession when I made mention where it could be found on delacoert FR Profile page. I have no clue why the RM removed it since it was delacoert who openly posted it on his/her FR profile page

The never RM removed stuff that was posted by Elsie from my FR profile that he post on a thread.

I most likely will get the standard reply; will if he does it again let me know!”

[Vendome]

Well now post #10 is gone and I have no way of referencing your post.

Guess we will have to move on for today.

[restornu]

There is nothing to reference the post #10 it was address to delacoert, and delacoert reply also reference it in post #19 which the RM also removed.

[Vendome]

I give up. Let’s just skip it.

[Elsie]

Who wrote the post at #10?

Your Honor: the dog ate my homework.

[Elsie]

did you write that?

No; Restornu did not.

Someone else is using her computer.

[Elsie]

Now THIS is RESTY speak!

[Elsie]

I most likely will get the standard reply; will if he does it again let me know!”

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Thanks; Resty!!

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Religion Moderator]

It was making the thread "about" an individual Freeper which is a form of "making it personal."

With proper sourcing, quoting another Freeper's profile page on the Religion Forum is ok providing it pertains to the issues, i.e. that it does not "make it personal."

[restornu]

Smooth move Elsie you are safe!

[Vendome]

I really don’t get it and I would rather move on.

[Elsie]

Good night, Mrs. Calabash, WHOever you are.

[Elsie]

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!

 

Good Idea!!

 

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1842 polygamy scandal and relationship with Sarah Pratt

In 1886, Orson's wife Sarah Pratt claimed in an interview that, while in Nauvoo, Illinois, Joseph Smith, Jr. was attracted to her and intended to make her "one of his spiritual wives" while Orson was in England on missionary service.^[8] To Smith's proposal Sarah replied, "Am I called upon to break the marriage covenant … to my lawful husband! I never will. I care not for the blessings of Jacob, and I believe in NO SUCH revelations, neither will I consent under any circumstances. I have one good husband, and that is enough for me."^[9] Pratt issued an ultimatum to Smith: "Joseph, if you ever attempt any thing of the kind with me again, I will tell Mr. Pratt on his return home. Depend upon it, I will certainly do it," ^[10] a warning that elicited the threat from Smith, "Sister Pratt, I hope you will not expose me; if I am to suffer, all suffer; so do not expose me. … If you should tell, I will ruin your reputation, remember that." After her husband Orson returned from England, Pratt later claimed an incident between Pratt and Smith at her home occurred, and "Sarah ordered the Prophet out of the house, and the Prophet used obscene language to her [declaring that he had found Bennett in bed with her]," according to Sarah Pratt's neighbor, Mary Ettie V. Smith.^[10] Sarah told her husband about the incident; Orson took Sarah's side and confronted Smith, who denied Sarah's allegation and responded that she was Bennett's lover.^[7] The resulting estrangement between Smith and Orson Pratt, who stood by Sarah in preference to the denials of Joseph, led to Smith warning his disciple that "if [Orson] did believe his wife and follow her suggestions he would go to hell,^[11].

However, in the local and Mormon press, Sarah Pratt was accused of having had an adulterous relationship, not with Smith, but with Bennett, and numerous affidavits were printed in local and pro-Mormon Nauvoo publications,^[12][13] including the leading councils of the church and from members such as Jacob B. Backenstos, a relative of the sheriff of Hancock County. Van Wagoner has dismissed the adultery charges against Sarah Pratt as "highly improbable" and that J. B. Backenstos's affidavit stating that Bennett continued the adulterous relationship with Sarah Pratt after Orson returned from England could "be dismissed as slander."^[7]

Orson Pratt became estranged from the church and Smith. Wilford Woodruff stated that "Dr. John Cook Bennett was the ruin of Orson Pratt".^[14] Van Wagoner and Walker note that, on August 20, 1842, "after four days of fruitless efforts at reconciliation, the Twelve excommunicated Pratt for 'insubordination' and Sarah for 'adultery'".^[15]

 

 

 

( From --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Pratt#1842_polygamy_scandal_and_relationship_with_Sarah_Pratt )