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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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1 posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:14 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

Any dictatorship is a bad thing. Religious ones just have a more extreme following as the followers are dong “God’s will.”


2 posted on 08/27/2010 11:48:23 AM PDT by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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To: Hank Kerchief; killermedic
Really?

Revolution And Counterrevolution was written by Plinio Correa de Oliveira - a Brazilian professor who had no authority in the Catholic Church and whose teachings are widely regarded as heretical.

He does not speak for the Church - anyone who knows what the Catholic Church is, knows that the Pope and the bishops (as a group) speak for the Church.

Not even individual bishops have authority to speak for the Church, let alone random laymen like Oliveira.

3 posted on 08/27/2010 11:53:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hank Kerchief

Does Reginald Firehammer actually know anything about “The Holy Roman Empire” or does he use it because its a wonderful coincidence that 3 left-wing buzz-word cliches can be strung together into a phrase that actually exists in the English Language?


4 posted on 08/27/2010 11:54:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Hank Kerchief
Look, anyone can propose anything. If you or anyone else wants to know if the head of the Vatican City State has the agenda of restoring the Holy Roman Empire or of expanding the Vatican City State to the Italian peninsula and beyond, there is an easy way to check: READ what the current Pope has said about world of politics and international relations. And you will find that the Pope has absolutely no plans to extend the sovereignty of the Vatican City State over broader territory.

But don't let the facts get in the way: go ahead and read some Bat-Sh*t crazy person and get all wee-wee'd up.

5 posted on 08/27/2010 11:55:41 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Hank Kerchief

I like how they think they are “The Church”.


6 posted on 08/27/2010 11:56:20 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hank Kerchief
You also link to Nicholas Gruner's "America Needs Fatima".

The apostolic nuncio for the United States (the Pope's ambassador to the US), has publicly declared that Gruner is not a Catholic in good standing and that he is suspended from public ministry. He has not had clerical faculties for more than 30 years.

7 posted on 08/27/2010 11:57:06 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Don’t stop him with facts, he’s on a roll.
Bigotry and hatred against Catholics, it’s been missing from FR for a day or two. It was due.

Just watch the flies gather for the poop. A few have arrived already.


8 posted on 08/27/2010 12:00:04 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Is Reginald Firehammer a real person or is he a creation to make anti-Catholics look stupid?


9 posted on 08/27/2010 12:00:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Hank Kerchief
You also link to a site calling itself "RealCatholicTV."

This site is not affiliated with the Catholic Church in any way, and the presenters openly reject the teachings of the Second Vatican Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

In other words, you are using three non-Catholic sources to slander the Catholic Church.

10 posted on 08/27/2010 12:00:36 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hank Kerchief

I’m not a Catholic and I only have one question: IBTZ?


11 posted on 08/27/2010 12:04:18 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

Does this mean that evangelical Christians do not seek to structure all human relations, institutions and the state itself according to their doctrine? If not, then why are so many so busy fighting about which candidate will do just that? Are evangelicals trying to reform society and the State after their own faith actually totalitarians?

12 posted on 08/27/2010 12:06:44 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: Hank Kerchief

Catholics are definitely taking over America. I can see it all around me. And they are headquartered in Spring Grove PA 17362

Their leader is Robert.

Robert Ritchie.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/01255099011195090367

A blogger no less!


13 posted on 08/27/2010 12:10:34 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Delusional bilge.


14 posted on 08/27/2010 12:11:48 PM PDT by piytar (Those who never learned that peace and freedom are rare will be taught by reality.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Hey who gave away the plot!!!! That durn Dan Brown he stirred up the pot and now our plans for world domination have been ferretted out!!! DANG IT!!!


15 posted on 08/27/2010 12:14:30 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Dung


16 posted on 08/27/2010 12:15:28 PM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: Hank Kerchief

Drats. You figured out our scheme. If it wasn’t for you meddling kids...

Well back to the drawing board.

((insert evil laugh here))


17 posted on 08/27/2010 12:15:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: vladimir998

Come now they don’t need to create a persona in order to look stupid.


18 posted on 08/27/2010 12:16:55 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

This is someone’s warped idea to equate Roman Catholicism with Islam. I would bet they took an article about Islam and replaced “Islamic Worldwide Caliphate” with “Catholic Dictatorship” and “Islam” with “Roman Catholic”, etc.

They are making a false analogy, don’t fall for accepting the premise.


19 posted on 08/27/2010 12:18:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: wideawake; Hank Kerchief
[RealCatholicTV] openly reject the teachings of the Second Vatican Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Huh?!? Where? When? That's a slander of a good faithful group.

And they rescinded the video in question in this blog post and apologized for its erroneous content.

From their website:

Some Clarity 08-18: The Catholic Government Vortex requires an apology and clarification. This is it.

20 posted on 08/27/2010 12:21:27 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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