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Can Physics Prove the Existence of God?
Magis Center of Reason and Faith ^ | July 23, 2010 | Spitzer, Robert

Posted on 07/20/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by firerosemom

The last few years have seen several books championing agnosticism or atheism making their way into the popular press. These books leave most informed readers quite baffled, because they ignore the vast majority (if not the entirety) of the considerable evidence for theism provided by physics and philosophy during the last few decades. This evidence is capable of grounding reasonable and responsible belief in a super-intelligent, transcendent, creative power that stands at the origins of our universe or any hypothetically postulated multiverse. The main purpose of this book is to give a brief synopsis of this evidence to readers who are interested in exploring the strongest rational foundation for faith that has come to light in human history.

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TOPICS: Religion & Science; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: cosmology; creation; faith; notaphysicstopic; notasciencetopic; physics; science; theism
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To: firerosemom

Bookmarked. Robert Spitzer is as bright as they come.


21 posted on 07/20/2010 6:51:41 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: firerosemom
But what if someone doesn’t trust in Jesus, for example, if they were raised in an environment that either mocked or ignored religion? Would they be unable to ever believe in a creator unless they had a “St. Paul” experience?

Many such people have come to know Jesus as their Savior. They ultimately chose to let Jesus come into their hearts. And mind you, this goes even further than what happened to St. Paul, as he was a Jewish Pharisee who had experience with religion.

The way I see it, no explanation from an earthly perspective is needed in matters such as these. Jesus literally just does it. And in many ways, these people are truly blessed moreso than those of us who were born into the faith... their conviction can be even more sincere as they knew of how empty life was without Jesus.

22 posted on 07/20/2010 6:52:00 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: firerosemom

God gave light to man with Jesus and thus explains the explosive growth of cognitive function in the past 2000 years


23 posted on 07/20/2010 6:59:08 PM PDT by kingcoal
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To: firerosemom

No. And it can’t disprove, either.


24 posted on 07/20/2010 7:01:44 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: firerosemom

Romans 1 says yes.


25 posted on 07/20/2010 7:02:50 PM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: firerosemom

God is revealed by His creation:

Psalm 19:1-6 states:

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it; and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof”.


26 posted on 07/20/2010 7:08:16 PM PDT by Keflavik76 (It's an Obama Nation, pray for America.)
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To: firerosemom

“In the absence of any other proof, the thumb alone would convince me of God’s existence. “ - Isaac Newton.


27 posted on 07/20/2010 7:09:05 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: firerosemom; All
Can Physics Prove the Existence of God?

What??? Of course not! Doesn't Spitzer know that the whole point to science is to DISprove the existence of God????

/Sam Harris

28 posted on 07/20/2010 7:21:39 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: muir_redwoods

“It cannot be proved that here are no living dinosaurs, for example.”

Alligators


29 posted on 07/20/2010 7:24:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I think that’s what bothers me most - mainstream media’s insistence on pitting science and faith against each other. Truth does not contradict truth! That’s what got me interested in the topic in the first place.


30 posted on 07/20/2010 7:32:41 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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To: firerosemom

I think it is God who proves the existence of physics!

But I’m all for the science, good for him.


31 posted on 07/20/2010 7:35:59 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: firerosemom

Jesus raised the dead in front of people and some didn’t believe.

I am all for scientific inquiry but I don’t believe, sadly, that it will convince those who hate God.


32 posted on 07/20/2010 7:37:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: firerosemom

See also: “Mathematics: Is God Silent?”


33 posted on 07/20/2010 7:38:40 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: firerosemom
No.

Read Luke

25 "But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

27 "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'

29 "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'

30 " 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'

31 "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

34 posted on 07/20/2010 7:41:00 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: firerosemom
Truth does not contradict truth!

Superficially, I agree with this statement. Yet - as a scientist - I believe "science" is an inferior form of inquiry. By its very nature, it can give no sure answers, and anyone - rabid atheist fundamentalist or otherwise - who thinks it can is merely deluding his or herself.

35 posted on 07/20/2010 7:48:44 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Yet - as a scientist - I believe "science" is an inferior form of inquiry. By its very nature, it can give no sure answers, and anyone - rabid atheist fundamentalist or otherwise - who thinks it can is merely deluding his or herself.

500 years ago the best scientists believed that the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the Earth, among other nonsense. The idea that science is some sort of "constant" force of knowledge that can be taken at its word is silly. By its very nature science MUST be policed by peer review.

36 posted on 07/20/2010 7:53:54 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: firerosemom

Think about the moment before the “Big Bang” and read Hebrews 11:3


37 posted on 07/20/2010 7:57:48 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: pnh102
By its very nature science MUST be policed by peer review.

A system which fails more often than not. Case in point - the "peer review" that took place with the AGW debacle.

Another case in point - evolution. Evolution is basically unnecessary in science - even the biological sciences, outside of the pseudoscientific field of "evolutionary biology," which was basically invented to justify reliance upon evolution as an explanation. I can't tell you how many times I've read journal articles where the author has "tacked on" some statement about evolution which is complete non-germane to the point of the article, but which was probably demanded by some peer-review referee before it could get published.

38 posted on 07/20/2010 7:58:44 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Your explanation is exactly why I will never trust science, or look to any other man-made “evidence”, or anything that purports to be as such, to prove to me that God exists.


39 posted on 07/20/2010 8:08:26 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: DesertRhino
There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority and science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win, because it works.

--Stephen Hawking

40 posted on 07/20/2010 9:33:07 PM PDT by GunRunner
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