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166 years ago today...that the following occurred:

From the article: Mr. Sharp: -- I hasten to inform you of the UNPARALLELED OUTRAGE, perpetrated upon our rights and interests, by the ruthless, lawless, ruffian band of MORMON MOBOCRATS, at the dictum that of that UNPRINCIPLED wretch Joe Smith. We were privately informed that the CITY COUNCIL, which had been in extra session, for two days past; had enacted an ordinance in relation to libels, providing that anything that had been published, or anything that might be published tending to disparage the character of the officers of the city should be regarded as LAWLESS. They also declared the "Nauvoo Expositor," a "nuisance," and directed the police of the city to proceed immediately to the office of the Expositor and DESTROY THE PRESS and also the MATERIALS, by THROWING them into the STREET!!!! If any resistance were made, the officers were directed to demolish the building and property, of all who were concerned in publishing said paper; and also take all into custody, who might refuse to obey the authorities of the City. Accordingly, a company consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers, &c, assisted by a crowd of several hundred minions, who volunteered their services on the occasion, marching to the building, and breaking open the doors with a Sledge Hammer, commenced the work of destruction and desperation. They tumbled the press and materials into the street, and set fire to them, and demolished the machinery with sledge hammer, and injured the building very materially. We made no resistance; but looked on and felt revenge, but leave it for the public to avenge this climax of insult and injury.

How would we feel, if the Mormon "prophet" of today, "determined" that Free Republic was a "public nuisance" and ordered "a company consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers to march to Fresno, break down JimRob's business doors with a Sledge Hammer, and commence the work of destruction and desperation, tumbling computers, etc. into the street, and set fire to them, and demolished the machinery with sledge hammer???

Mormons celebrate all this? Why? Because they celebrate Smith as a martyr. And it was principally this act he ordered, that led to an eventual gun battle where Smith died (two guns were smuggled into Smith in prison, just like Ron Gardner's acts in Utah where he sits on death row for having a weapon smuggled into him)

Mormons don't celebrate Smith the criminal, but Smith the "martyr." They wind up essentially endorsing what Smith did to the Nauvoo Expositor. Hence, this doesn't remain merely an act in history. It catapults through time.

Go ahead. Ask your Mormon neighbor: "Was Joseph Smith committing criminal acts by ordering the destruction of the Expositor?" The answer you'll get will show where their absolutes lie -- and it won't be with Freedom of the Press.

1 posted on 06/11/2010 9:44:43 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Wow, that really was the title...


2 posted on 06/11/2010 9:45:52 AM PDT by Flightdeck (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Colofornian

Interesting. I didn’t know this aspect of the affair.

Smith was demonic in his ways.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 9:50:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Colofornian

I really think that mormonism is wacky.

But this happened a very long time ago. Are mormons today supposed to feel anymore guilt over this than white people in general should feel about slavery in this nation?


4 posted on 06/11/2010 9:54:23 AM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 15 days.)
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The early mormons were not students or fans of the Constitution of the United States were they ???

They 1st Amendment rights of others...whether in religion or free speech or the freedom of the press ...were nonexistant in the mormon mindset..


6 posted on 06/11/2010 9:56:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Accordingly, a company consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers, &c, assisted by a crowd of several hundred minions, who volunteered their services on the occasion, marching to the building, and breaking open the doors with a Sledge Hammer, commenced the work of destruction and desperation.
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Well isnt that special...

Joey Smith sent a LYNCH MOB of hundreds to make martyrs of the editors of the Nauvoo Expositor...

Plus his personal militia of 5,000 Danites were there too...

Joey Smith was a dangerous terrorist and tyrant who enticed others to riot on the streets of America..


10 posted on 06/11/2010 10:04:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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>>> How would we feel, if the Mormon “prophet” of today, “determined” that Free Republic was a “public nuisance” and ordered “a company consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers to march to Fresno, break down JimRob’s business doors with a Sledge Hammer, and commence the work of destruction and desperation, tumbling computers, etc. into the street, and set fire to them, and demolished the machinery with sledge hammer???

Well since you ask, I expect that depends on the circumstances. A brigade of freepers would march on the New York Times newsroom tomorrow if they thought they could. What’s your point ? By the way, has the “Mormon prophet of today” made any remarks at all about Free Republic I hadn’t heard of ?

I’m certain we are all excited by exploits of “religious” violence from a century and a half ago. We certainly don’t want that pot to ever stop boiling do we.

Carry on.


13 posted on 06/11/2010 10:08:49 AM PDT by tlb
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Joey Smith attacked and burnt down the Nauvoo Expositor Building because they had published the truth about the adultery and polygamy of Joey Smith...

At that time Joey smith have 40+ “plural wives” or mistresses which which he had had sex and committed adultery...in 1844 legally called “unlawful habitation” and punishable by a prison sentence....

and Joey Smith claimed and wrote on July 12, 1843 that his mormon god had told him to practice polygamy in a “revelation” a year before he had destroyed a privately owned newspaper for publishing the same new “doctrine”

and as early as 1831, Joey smith was teaching his followers to practice polygamy...

“The exact date I cannot give you when this principle of plural marriage was first revealed to Joseph Smith, but I do know that there was a revelation given in July 1831, in the presence of Oliver Cowdery, W. W. Phelps and others in Missouri, in which the Lord made this principle known through the Prophet Joseph Smith. Whether the revelation as it appears in the Doctrine and Covenants as [sic] first given July 12, 1843, or earlier, I care not. It is a fact, nevertheless, that this principle was revealed at an earlier date” (Joseph F Smith, Letter dated September 5, 1935, typed copy)

And a letter from Cowdery himself...

In a letter dated Jan. 21, 1838, Cowdery wrote: “When he [Joseph Smith] was there we had some conversation in which in every instance I did not fail to affirm that what I had said was strictly true. A dirty, nasty, filthy affair of his and Fanny Alger’s was talked over in which I strictly declared that I had never deviated from the truth in the matter, and as I supposed was admitted by himself.” (Letter written by Oliver Cowdery and recorded by his brother Warren Cowdery)

Why would Joey Smith attempt to deny so drastically something his mormon god had supposedly told him to do ???

After Joseph Smith’s death the denials of polygamy continued to come forth in Mormon publications. When someone stated that Joseph Smith taught polygamy, the Latter-Day Saints’ Millennial Star (vol. 12, p. 29-30) called it a lie

And yet that same mormon religion owned newspaper, the Millennial Star, after stating

“The Latter-day Saints, from the rise of the Church in 1830, till the year 1843, had no authority to marry any more than one wife each. To have done otherwise, would have been a great transgression” (Millennial Star, vol. 19, p. 475, July 25, 1857).

Later when it was admitted in the Millennial Star that polygamy was part of the mormon belief and practice, new converts to mormonism in Britian refused to go to “Zion” as the mormons called the Utah Territory..

Mormonism was so entrenched in polygamyHeber C Kimball made this emphatic declaration: “It would be as easy for the United States to build a tower to remove the sun, as to remove polygamy, or the Church and kingdom of God.” (Millennial Star, vol. 28, p. 190)


36 posted on 06/11/2010 11:14:14 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

Every time I hit the “Everything” button I run across one of your anti-Mormon screeds.

It must be sad to be you. Of course, it’ll be even sadder when you meet your Maker and find out what He thinks about gossip, bearing false witness, judging your neighbors, etc. You’d best hope the Mormons are right. In their theology, you’ll get a chance to repent. In yours, like that great ol’ AC/DC song, you’re on the “Highway to Hell”. Of course, the further words of the song “My friends are gonna be there too” may be of comfort.

Your posts have nothing to do with “education” or “discussion” and everything to do with spewing falsehoods and vitriol for your team of cheerleaders.

Have a nice day.


70 posted on 06/11/2010 1:24:59 PM PDT by jimt
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“Was Joseph Smith committing criminal acts by ordering the destruction of the Expositor?” The answer you’ll get will show where their absolutes lie — and it won’t be with Freedom of the Press. “

Let’s assume that you are right (but of course you certainly are not) . . . but let’s assume you are right about the printing press . . . So does this mean that you are in agreement with the mob murdering Joseph Smith and his brother in cold blood without a trial? Surely not.


126 posted on 06/14/2010 8:27:37 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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