The bible alone is the truth!
If the assumption of Mary (for example) was a bible doctrine it should been formulated in the first 300 years of the early church and it should have been in the bible!
Traditions change but the word of God stands forever! Look at what tradition did to the Pharisees and Sadducee, Jesus condemned them!
YHvH gave us His Word.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
The Roman "church" rejects the Word(Yah'shua)
and replaces it with man-made tradition.The Roman "church" claims it has captured the creator
of the universe in a Matzoh and Passover wine.How blasphemous.
I stake my salvation on the Word of G-d
and reject the paganism of Rome.I call on the NAME of YHvH for my salvation: Yah'shua !
First off: I would like to thank everyone who participated in this thread. I’ve learned a lot; a few of you stand out greatly in my mind conservativegramma & daniel1212 in particular.
Secondly, I would like to say that one thing I’ve learned [primarily from Leoni and papertyger] is that their version of Tradition [of the Catholic church] is to Christianity what Directive 10-289 [from Atlas Shrugged] is to economy/freedom.
I say this not because of the theological & doctrinal differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, but because of how they use the Tradition therefrom to bludgeon anyone who does not agree with them. (Remember, also, that I was a Chaplain’s Assistant in the Army... I did have debates & discussions with the Chaplain and we have a mutual respect for each other.)
Also consider that Jesus said that the Truth would set you free... but, in the words of papertyger: “Where did you get the idea I was here to learn from you? / I’m here to refute you.” there is no love in the statement... and no desire for truth; it could very-well be said against someone asserting that man has the right to freedom of choice and it goes against the grain from the admonitions we Christians have to correct sinners (even those members of the Church).
[James 5:19,20 — My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.]
Directive 10-289
“In the name of the general welfare,” read Wesley Mouch, “to protect the people’s security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the national emergency that—
“Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the nation.
“Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under pentalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.
“Point Three. All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift by means of Gift Certificates to be signed voluntarily by the owners of all such patents and copyrights. The Unification Board shall then license the use of such patents and copyrights to all applicants, equally and without discrimination, for the purpose of eliminating monopolistic practices, discarding obsolete products and making the best available to the whole nation. No trademarks, brand names or copyrighted titles shall be used. Every formerly patented product shall be known by a new name and sold by all manufacturers under the same name, such name to be selected by the Unification Board. All private trademarks and brand names are hereby abolished.
“Point Four. No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufacturerd or sold afer the date of this directive. The Office of Patents and Copyrights is hereby suspended.
“Point Five. Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as it, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more and no less. The year to be known as the Basic or Yardstick Year is to be the year ending on the date of this directive. Over or under production shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Barod.
“Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less. Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.
“Point Seven. All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive.
“Point Eight. All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisions will be final.”
Please think about that... most especially the book of James, which I plan to read [again] right now.
Thank you.
The entire thread is idolatrous for it places the Church and Tradition before God in our thinking.
Not to someone that doesn't believe the bible.
How quickly we forget that Christ is described as the Word of God. Indeed, the Apostle John reconfirms this in Revelation "and [he is] clothed with a garment dipped in blood; and his name is called The Word of God.
When you attack Scripture you are attacking Christ and the preeminence of Christ.
pong