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Posted on 10/31/2009 2:53:14 PM PDT by narses
I. God is the Eternal, Omnipotent, Immutable WISDOM and Supreme INTELLIGENCE and Exhaustless Love. Thou shalt adore, revere, and love Him ! Thou shalt honour Him by practising the virtues!
II. Thy religion shall be, to do good because it is a pleasure to thee, and not merely because it is a duty. That thou mayest become the friend of the wise man, thou shalt obey his precepts ! Thy soul is immortal ! Thou shalt do nothing to degrade it !
III. Thou shalt unceasingly war against vice! Thou shalt not do unto others that which thou wouldst not wish them to do unto thee ! Thou shalt be submissive to thy fortunes, and keep burning the light of wisdom !
IV. Thou shalt honour thy parents ! Thou shalt pay respect and homage to the aged! Thou shalt instruct the young! Thou shalt protect and defend infancy and innocence !
V. Thou shalt cherish thy wife and thy children! Thou shalt love thy country, and obey its laws!
VI. Thy friend shall be to thee a second self ! Misfortune shall not estrange thee from him ! Thou shalt do for his memory whatever thou wouldst do for him, if he were living!
VII. Thou shalt avoid and flee from insincere friendships ! Thou shalt in everything refrain from excess. Thou shalt fear to be the cause of a stain on thy memory!
VIII. Thou shalt allow no passions to become thy master ! Thou shalt make the passions of others profitable lessons to thyself! Thou shalt be indulgent to error !
IX. Thou shalt hear much: Thou shalt speak little: Thou shalt act well ! Thou shalt forget injuries! Thou shalt render good for evil ! Thou shalt not misuse either thy strength or thy superiority !
X. Thou shalt study to know men; that thereby thou mayest learn to know thyself ! Thou shalt ever seek after virtue ! Thou shalt be just! Thou shalt avoid idleness !
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I have heard from some that Mason’s are agnostic, atheist and even Satanic. If these are really their 10 top rules that kind of shoots that theory, doesn’t it. I’m curious though: why are you posting Masonic rules on a Catholic ping list?
The Catholic Church, I’m pretty sure, forbids members to belong to the Masons.
For those who like Pike, I highly recommend “Morals and Dogma for the 21st Century.”
http://www.morals-and-dogma.com/
Excellent book by some local brothers.
Thanks! About that book:
Morals and Dogma for the 21st Century is a modern interpretation of Albert Pike’s Greatest Work. We have taken the entire original book and translated it into modern English, streamlined the ideas, organized the flow of thoughts, updated many of the historical examples, and clarified many of the points that are easily misread.
Now is your chance to rediscover the single most important book in Freemasonry presented in a new, easy-to-read format. For the first time ever, Morals and Dogma for the 21st Century brings every Mason the opportunity to expand his understanding of the craft, its values, and his brother Masons. It will serve to deepen the commitment each Mason has to his brothers and, more importantly, reaffirm the values that bind them together.
Once again, this book demonstrates the timeless nature of the lessons of Freemasonry. These lessons need to be repeated to every generation again, and again, and again, because they are so vital to our everyday lives. They are as relevant today as they were 136 years ago. This treasure chest of morality, charity, and Masonic education has been opened, its content has been restored, and it is now offered to you. Masonic conversations may once again dive deeply into the philosophy and teachings of this book, making a greater understanding possible for everyone.
It is with an absolute reverence for Albert Pike and the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite that we have endeavored to make Morals and Dogma more approachable and accessible to the modern reader. In no way do we intend to displace (or replace) his work from its exalted position, so rightly and fully deserved. Rather, we hope to inspire our audience to read Morals and Dogma in its entirety and in the original language. This work is our gift to the Greatest Fraternity in the history of man.
My bro is Catholic and a Mason.
There's been a heated debate on that issue.
Catholic men can join Freemasonry as far as Freemasons are concerned...and many do.
On the other hand, some Catholic Church leaders oppose it.
These 10 commandments are for the entry level masons. When you get to the 30th degree, the Kadosh, the ceremony includes trampling the papal tiara.
Never found Pike to be difficult to understand. - He believes that man can become God, and it comes through quite well.
If it’s secret, how do you know?
Fear not.
"In order to clarify the issue the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith published a declaration on Nov. 26, 1983, shortly before the present Code of Canon Law came into effect. This declaration, signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, states:"It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church's decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous Code.
"This Sacred Congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance in due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.
"Therefore the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.
"It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 1981 pp. 240-241; English language edition of L'Osservatore Romano, 9 March 1981).
"In an audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this Declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this Sacred Congregation."
The congregation's judgment, therefore, was not so much based on whether the Masons as such or any specific group of Masons effectively plot against the Church today. This does not deny that some Masonic groups have historically combated the Church nor that even today, in some countries or at certain levels, the lodge remains at the forefront of those who oppose the Church's freedom of action.
Rather, the Vatican congregation above all stressed the incompatibility of some Masonic principles with those of the Catholic Church.
This incompatibility resides in some aspects of Masonic ritual, but more importantly in elements regarding the question of truth.
In its effort to bring together people of different provenances, Masonry requires that its members adhere to a minimal belief in a supreme architect of the universe and leave aside all other pretensions of truth, even revealed truth.
It is thus basically a relativistic doctrine, and no Catholic, nor indeed any convinced Christian, may ever adhere to a group that would require him, even as a mere intellectual exercise, to renounce the affirmation of such truths as Christ's divinity and the Trinitarian nature of God.
Of course, for many people active in Masonic lodges, the conversations and activities are more social in nature and rarely veer toward the realm of philosophical speculation. A Catholic, however, cannot ignore the fundamental principles behind an organization, no matter how innocuous its activities appear to be."
It's supposed to be a secret?
Pretty much as it was the church that purged the Masons.
I have heard from some that Mason’s are agnostic, atheist and even Satanic. If these are really their 10 top rules that kind of shoots that theory, doesn’t it.
I’ve not read their articles but I have been informed that they clearly state they worship satan.
I’ve been a Mason for about 20 years now, and this is the first time I’ve ever seen this. I wouldn’t put much stock in anything Albert Pike writes.
I don't like churches either.
(I support them, but hate the crowds.)
What's secret?
That is a crock!
Why don't you work on getting the baby murderers like Biden, Pelosi, etc., excommunicated for the ongoing abortion and murders of babies.
Back in the 1970s the Pope said nit was OK to join
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Masonry never 'clearly' states anything. Its always wrapped in poetry and riddles, but an experienced reader can nevertheless see the meanings.
From Morals, Ch 30:
A power that ruled without antagonism and without concurrence, and consequently without control, proved fatal to the Sacerdotal Royalties; while the Republics, on the other hand, had perished by the conflict of liberties and franchises, which, in the absence of all duty hierarchically sanctioned and enforced, had soon become mere tyrannies, rivals one of the other.Not stated clearly, but the message is there.To find a stable medium between these two abysses, the idea of the Christian Hierophants was to create a society devoted to abnegation by solemn vows, protected by severe regulations; which should be recruited by initiation, and which, sole depositary of the great religious and social secrets, should make Kings and Pontiffs, without exposing it to the corruptions of Power.
In that was the secret of that kingdom of Jesus Christ, which, without being of this world, would govern all its grandeurs.
"This idea presided at the foundation of the great religious orders, so often at war with the secular authorities, ecclesiastical or civil. Its realization was also the dream of the dissident sects of Gnostics or Illuminati who pretended to connect their faith with the primitive tradition of the Christianity of Saint John.
It at length became a menace for the Church and Society, when a rich and dissolute Order, initiated in the mysterious doctrines of the Kabalah, seemed disposed to turn against legitimate authority the conservative principle of Hierarchy, and threatened the entire world with an immense revolution.
The Templars, whose history is so imperfectly known, were those terrible conspirators. In 1118, nine Knights Crusaders in the East, among whom were Geoffroi de Saint-Omer and Hugues de Payens, consecrated themselves to religion, and took an oath between the hands of the Patriarch of Constantinople, a See always secretly or openly hostile to that of Rome from the time of Photius. The avowed object of the Templars was to protect the Christians who came to visit the Holy Places: their secret object was the re-building of the Temple of Solomon on the model prophesied by Ezekiel.This re-building, formally predicted by the Judaizing Mystics of the earlier ages, had become the secret dream of the Patriarchs of the Orient. The Temple of Solomon, re-built and consecrated to the Catholic worship would become, in effect, the Metropolis of the Universe; the East would prevail over the West, and the Patriarchs of Constantinople would possess themselves of the Papal power.
Who said I'm not working on that?
I am a devout and committed Christian, and I would never belong to any organization that was contrary to my beliefs. I have been a Mason for more than 20 years. Not only is Masonry compatible with my Christian beliefs, Masonry has made me a better Christian.
Get paranoid about the Islamist threat to all of us.
Get over the rest of it.
fyi, George Washington and John Wayne were both Masons...
As a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Freemason, I know for a fact that this is untrue. None of the Scottish Rite degrees are anti-Catholic.
Please do your research a little better before trashing something you've never seen.
no atheists or agnoistics. as for satan worshippers, i suppose if a satan worshipper could convince a lodge that he is a man of good character, he could get in. how he would profess his love of evil and be a man of good character is a confoundment.
the rc church used to be in a big fight with the masons over masonic secrecy, but it’s long past on the institutional level. i suppose there are examples of individual prejudices on both sides, but some people will have trouble understanding the principles of their organizations in any instance.
Masonry has its decalogue, which is a law to its Initiates. These are its Ten Commandments
MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE
Good Catholics should not wear aprons
What of Freemasonry?
Sandra Miesel explains why Catholics can't be Masons
Then....
Maybe it’s just me, but I think I counted 35 precepts just now. (Three and a half decalogues worth!)
> I’ve not read their articles but I have been informed that they clearly state they worship satan.
We don’t. As a condition of membership every Mason must believe in God and must attest to this during his First Degree initiation.
> I’ve not read their articles but I have been informed that they clearly state they worship satan.
We don’t. As a condition of membership every Mason must believe in God and must attest to this during his First Degree initiation.
> I have heard from some that Mason’s are agnostic, atheist and even Satanic.
As a condition of membership in Freemasonry, a candidate must believe in God and must attest to this in Lodge during his First Degree initiation.
This is a strict requirement that precludes Atheism and Agnosticism. Sure, an atheist or agnostic could falsely claim to believe in God in order to join, but by doing so he would be violating one of our core beliefs: that of Truth.
> If these are really their 10 top rules that kind of shoots that theory, doesn’t it.
These are the “top 10 rules” as Albert Pike saw them. As with all Freemasons, he was entitled to his opinions. He did not speak on behalf of all Freemasonry.
Pike did not really write Morals and Dogma so much as he was its “editor” culling many truths and texts of Masonry. The book was put together to hand out to Scottish Rite Masons in the south. I believe it was first issued around 1871. Copies are available albeit out of print. There was a reissue in 1963. Albert Pike was a Confederate General and has a statute in Washington DC (for his Masonic connections — not for his Confederate status). He has been falsely accused of founding the KKK but that has been totally debunked. M&D is a master work for anyone seeking enlightenment.
I haven’t read any of the writings of Albert Pike, but I assure you that, if he wrote anything that indicated that Masonry was Satanic in nature, he was a liar.
I’ve never seen anything like him saying Masonry was satanic. A pure ruse. He came from a time when honorable people didn’t talk like that; or others did not lightly accuse without something to support it. Modern media is accuse and see if they can prove it wrong. We are living in a much nastier time.
I am a devout and committed Christian, and I would never belong to any organization that was contrary to my beliefs
I never meant to imply such but the information I received was from a devout Spirit-filled believer who attended a series of teachings from a visiting Biblical scholar. I have not previously seen the need to research it myself, but now I believe it is time to find out for myself so I can speak on the basis of first-hand knowledge. Please accept my apology for any offense taken from my post.
Please don’t mis-understand. I have taken no offense, I am simply offering my perspective as both a Christian and a Mason.
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