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Dinosaur Protein Sequences and the Dino-to-Bird Model
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Oct. 1, 2009 | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:58 AM PDT by bogusname

Evolutionists have maintained that the fossil record supports a long-ages history for earth, but material extracted from dinosaur bones is providing an interesting challenge to that theory. The recent discoveries of soft dinosaur tissues, defined cell matrices, elastic blood vessels, and clearly observable cell microstructures such as cell nuclei have been a source of both shock and excitement to the paleontology community.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: dinosaur; dna; evolution; maryschweitzer
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1 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:59 AM PDT by bogusname
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To: bogusname

More bad news for blind cult followers of Evolution:

Conclusion

Although the supposedly 90 million-year-old hadrosaur collagen sequence appears to have been interpreted within the assumption of dino-to-bird evolution—a concept that a number of other leading evolutionists do not share—the fact that real tissue and proteins have been found seriously brings into question the whole concept of evolution and its required long ages. The remarkable preservation of these tissues found in sedimentary rock (sandstone) really speaks of only one thing: a rapid burial in a catastrophic worldwide flood as recorded in the Bible.

In fact, even evolutionists have contemplated the implications, as illustrated in the quote below from Jack Horner’s recent book. The setting for this excerpt is a conversation between Dr. Horner and Mary Schweitzer when she was his graduate student. Schweitzer had just discovered and verified the presence of intact dinosaur tissue and was relaying the news to her mentor.

When Mary was first working on this material, she called me up to say she had found osteocytes. I assumed she meant the spaces where the osteocytes would have been, which is what I suggested.

“No, Jack, actually we have the cells and they have filipodia and they have nuclei.”

“Mary, the freaking creationists are just going to love you.”

“Jack, it’s your dinosaur.”11

That about sums it up!


2 posted on 10/10/2009 11:16:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bogusname

Question is if dinosaurs are birds - How do we get one into
oven to cook for Thanksgiving?


3 posted on 10/10/2009 11:20:54 AM PDT by njslim
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To: bogusname
The dinosaur didn't disappear: It evolved.
4 posted on 10/10/2009 11:23:03 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: nmh

Amen


5 posted on 10/10/2009 11:25:31 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: njslim

Just go buy a turkey. Same thing.


6 posted on 10/10/2009 11:25:38 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: bogusname

Ah, let’s not upset the Evolutionists.

We dob’t want their glass jaw to shatter.

Evolution is their RELIGION.

Their FAITH is in “man”.


7 posted on 10/10/2009 12:33:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

If these are the indeed last days you are right.
Revelation 22:11-”Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy.” NIV


8 posted on 10/10/2009 8:07:11 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: nmh
Ah, let’s not upset the Evolutionists.

You haven't. You've posted a poorly written ICR critique of real scientists doing real science. In ICR-world I realize gaining more insight into an issue is apparently a terrible thing. Incredible.

Evolution is their RELIGION.

And religion is... stupid? I don't understand your point. Is that an insult? I mean, I don't agree with the notion, but using "religion" as an insult seems pretty weird to me.
9 posted on 10/12/2009 5:06:52 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: bogusname
Warning!

This is a Meta-article that contains
no site-specific scientifc data or research whatsoever and is produced
by a member of an obscure, unrecognized, non-scientific internet group
attempting to pass off a Religious agenda as scholarly and scientific.

Buyer Beware!"

(See my Tagline)

10 posted on 10/12/2009 5:42:54 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (Creationism: Conservatism's crazy-Uncle-in-the-attic.)
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I got you brother. I liked it because it supported what I wanted to hear...of course. Is this other one full of holes that you can see right through as well?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


11 posted on 10/12/2009 5:49:50 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
I got you brother.

Obviously you didn't.

Is this other one full of holes that you can see right through as well?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp

I rest my case.

Cheers.

12 posted on 10/12/2009 6:17:23 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (Creationism: Conservatism's crazy-Uncle-in-the-attic.)
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To: DoctorMichael

There’s no reason insult me friend. I did understand what you meant. If your faith is in the workings of science then that’s your choice and I’ll say nothing against you. In any trial both sides will rest their cases. Only one side wins and resting your case means nothing if you lose. You can walk around claiming a win all of your life but in reality you won’t know the verdict until you hear the judge. It’s not wise to declare a victory until the game is over.


13 posted on 10/12/2009 6:35:14 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

Drive-by liberals like this aren’t worthy of your time.


14 posted on 10/12/2009 4:20:11 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: whattajoke; nmh; metmom; GodGunsGuts
And religion is... stupid? I don't understand your point. Is that an insult? I mean, I don't agree with the notion, but using "religion" as an insult seems pretty weird to me.

You just can NOT be serious!

All we've seen here is liberals getting uptight about "injecting religion into science" ad nauseum, ad infinatum!

I guess when liberals do it, it doesn't count.

15 posted on 10/12/2009 4:42:04 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Thanks. I just woke up(night shifter)and hadn’t even had time for my coffee to take effect and I’m hit with a blast liberal hot air.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 4:53:05 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname; tpanther

It’s really funny what some people post that they actually consider support of evolution.

Many of the evos are on here just to dis Christians because their only contribution ever to the evo debates is mockery and derision.

They don’t, and probably can’t, post a single reasonable refutation of the article cited in the thread.

And then they wonder why people aren’t falling for evolution wholesale.

It’s pretty clear. No intelligence allowed and it shows in those kinds of posts.


17 posted on 10/12/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tpanther

xoxo


18 posted on 10/12/2009 6:13:35 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: metmom

yup...

“xoxo” = boo-hoo.


19 posted on 10/12/2009 6:31:35 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: metmom

That’s true. I don’t even make an attempt to convince them anymore. The first hour of the first day of my first anthro class the teacher said the following, “If you are thinking about going into this field let me warn you that you’re going to need a great deal of faith. You’ll find situations where a jawbone or a piece of skull represents an entire race of people. So if you are going to do this sort of thing you’ll need alot of faith because there is so little evidence.” I thought to myself, “wouldn’t it be smarter just to have faith in God?”
That teacher, by the way, was a shaggy long haired fellow who honestly did appear to be a missing link and was probably in himself the best argument for evolution.


20 posted on 10/12/2009 7:18:51 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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