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LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Posted on 10/10/2009 9:34:02 AM PDT by bogusname
According to evolutionists, our moon is nearly as old as the Earth and, from the rate of unimpeded meteors hitting the moon's surface over billions of years, there should be many feet of lunar dust on the moon's surface.
(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...
Pravda being Pravda I see.. I’m surprised they didn’t bring aliens into the mix.. oh wait..never mind..
It’s an argument that goes back 50 years, and is still valid.
They made the moon lander’s ladder too short and gave the lander “duck feet” as they expected it to sink into a few feet of dust. The following day’s newspapers had articles like “Where was the dust?”
That said, Pravda is ALWAYS looking for a way to make the USA look bad, so I’m not even going to bother with the article. There are other sources which expound this point.
I feel that same way about anything coming from Russia but it’s actually a good article.
What! No green cheese?
I’ll venture a guess: maybe when the moon gets struck by meteor that some of the dust is ejected at such velocity so as to escape lunar gravity? Hey, it’s a theory!
Yeah, but all the calculations for “billions of years” say it should be over 20 feet deep.
I know just what you’re talking about and I agree. No, this is a long article that debunks quite a bit of the evolutionist doctrine.
Or, there's an "equilibrium point" at which subsequent impacts start fusing as much of the existing dust back into solid crust at the center as they create at the periphery.
Actually not. Calculations that have the moon in a closed environment say this, but one thing that early calculations didn't take into account were solar winds which are stronger than the gravitational forces holding 'moon dust' down. We didn't know much about these at the time as space flight was new.
The cleaning lady comes every Wednesday.
escape velocity = sqrt(2gR), g = GM/R^2 so escape velocity = sqrt(2GM/R) where M is the mass in kg, R the radius in m, G the gravitational constant in SI units, and the velocity comes out in m/s.
I’m guessing 2 or 3 miles per second for the moon. It’s about 8 miles/second for Earth.
Very, very little gets that kind of speed.
“solar winds which are stronger than the gravitational forces holding ‘moon dust’ down”
lol. whatever you say mac.
Not really. For example, the Hawaiian lava dating. Any scientist worth his salt knows to account for 'old carbon' coming up from the deep oceans (water mass age) which can flaw readings if you look at the lava on its own. Pretty much every place that is tested has this variable accounted for. This article makes the same false assumptions as several I've read on the subject, not taking into account the scientists know about the variable they have to put into the calculation based on the location for existing carbon. http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/hottopics/dating.html
What about solar winds or the draft from colliding objects?
The Moon had 83% less gravity than Earth so, the dust might not necessarily all come back to the surface.
OK, I gotchya. I understand where you’re coming from. I believe the Biblical account. Sorry to bother you.
Most of it has ended up in my house......
Wild-eyed claims based on ignorance about the dynamics of lunar dust are entertaining but not helpful, and are probably less than useless.
The moon is only 4,000 years old... ask Noah.. he saw the dinosaurs being rode by cave men right before the construction of stone henge; Stone henge was created by dionsuars and crapped the moon right from the center ring as a test.
The article isn’t just about the moon. It talks about fossil dating and the flood etc. It’s a long article.
'La bonne cuisine est la base du véritable bonheur.' - Auguste Escoffier
(Good food is the foundation of genuine happiness.)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
There is. Apollo 17 astronauts took seismic readings of the lunar soil and determined that the layer of accumulated pulverized impact material, the scientific term for it is regolith, is about 20-40 feet deep on the lunar plains, and up to 120 feet deep in the lunar highlands. The moon has a low gravity and no wind or weather to disturb the debris so it becomes packed over the millions and millions of years. Firm enough to support the lunar lander.
We have to stop confusing legitimate science with hocus pocus ‘science’. i.e., man-made globull warming.
No. The lander ladder for Apollo 11 was exactly as long as it was supposed to be. Buzz Aldrin set down Eagle much softer than anticipated, which didn't compress the landing struts as much as anticipated.
NASA knew how much dust to expect, because between 1966 and 1968 they landed several Surveyor lunar probes to measure surface load bearing qualities, surface condtions, rock sizes, etc.
I knew if I only posted that small excerpt that people would think that the entire 5 page article was about the moon. Most of the article isn’t about the moon at all. Next time I’ll think past the “assumers” and use a better hook. Then perhaps they’ll actually read it. Peace
The moon is only 6,439 years old.
You can’t find any historical or written reference to the moon before that date.
The ladder was never designed to reach all the way to the surface. There was a variable amount of lander strut travel that depended on how hard the lander hit. The struts were not like shock absorbers that bounced back, they were designed to crush and absorbe the shock.
Again, NASA knew almost exactly how much dust to expect because of the previous Surveyor probes sampled the surface at several points of the Moon, including the Sea of Tranquility.
Bombing the moon seems kinda silly......under any circumstance.......
How deep do you sink in the sand at the beach? A few inches, does that mean that there are only a few inches of sand at the beach?
Sure you can; in continental stratigraphic sequences throughout the world some of which contain fossils detailing the history of life, in some cases almost from its inception dating back some 3.8 billion years.
But if you’re one of those that thinks God plays games with us and has placed them there to fool us, well, you’re welcome to that, though I very seriously doubt it as then that kind of thinking could be applied to anything, including the nature of God himself.
To my mind The Bible and science make God’s universe a much more fascinating entity.
“Sure you can; in continental stratigraphic sequences throughout the world some of which contain fossils detailing the history of life,”
What’s that got to do with the MOON???????
There are no love songs, pictures, news stories, cunieform tablets, etc. around that reference the moon before 7000 years ago.
Sorry. You're right. But the presence of the Moon is reflected in the tidal stresses reflected in continental sedimentary sequences as well.
Best.
Because reading the 6 mile high plume will determine whether water is present and give some indication of availability. It is a prerequisite to designing, planning missions for, and subsequently building moon bases and also to a degree determines in advance what missions those bases will be able execute.
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