Posted on 09/29/2009 8:48:11 AM PDT by Pyro7480
When Oakland’s Bishop Salvatore Cordileone visited Berkeley’s Jesuit School of Theology at the Graduate Theological Union on September 22, he was greeted by approximately 20 protestors. The protestors were seminarians and faculty from the theological union’s schools. The bishop was there to commemorate the merging of the Jesuit school with Santa Clara University. The protesters were there to oppose Bishop Cordileone for his defense of natural marriage.
According to the QueerToday.com website, protestors included Rev. Dr. Rebecca Parker, president of the Starr King (Unitarian Universalist) School of Ministry; Rev. Roland Stringfellow, the organizer of the GTU’s Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies...and graduate student Eugene McMullan, apparently a Catholic.
...Mr. McMullan is the founder of Catholics for Marriage Equality. There is more than one organization with that name; presumably they mean the one in the bay area. On August 13, the BAR published an article called “Pray for Equality Outside St. Mary‘s.“ The article began: “The recently formed Catholics for Marriage Equality will be holding a prayer vigil outside St. Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco Saturday, August 15, which is the feast of the Assumption....Catholics for Marriage Equality will be praying the rosary while contemplating the Relational Mysteries.”
...The September 13 web bulletin of Berkeley’s Newman Hall - Holy Spirit Parish announces: “Praying the Rosary in solidarity with LGBT Catholics. Join us Sept. 17, 7:30-9:00 p.m. in the lounge as we explore the Relational Mysteries: Fidelity—Ruth's pledge to Naomi (Ruth 1:16-18); Grief—The parting of David and Jonathan (I Sam 20:35-42); Intercession—Esther intercedes for her people (Est 4:9-5:2); Restoration—the raising of Lazarus (John 11:38-44); and Discipleship—the two encounter Christ on the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-35). The group will be co-facilitated by Mike Campos and Eugene McMullan, Ph.D. students at the Graduate Theological Union.”
(Excerpt) Read more at calcatholic.com ...
Read this before you have your lunch, because you're going to be sick!
I once wondered if there should be "Angry Mysteries."
That is such a perversion I’m sorry I read it. Now I can’t the whole disgusting mess out of my mind.
The rosary is Christ centered, not centered on some stupid agenda and contemplation of the rightness of perversion and sin.
Next week: the Delusional Mysteries
Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious and from JPII the Luminous Mysteries... That’s ALL there are!
I'm sure you can think of some better ones. Maybe the Four Last Things?
This is crazy. That is insulting to our Lord. These people have a badly formed faith. Come on Pastors, be a pastor! DO YOUR JOB! There’s only one way to be saved, and that’s through Jesus Christ our precious Lord. Catholics today ignore this central doctrine of the faith. Pray much for sinners.
In her apparition to Sr. Lucia on December 10, 1925, Our Lady specifically referred to the "fifteen" mysteries of the rosary. Given this, and the fact of the rosary's origin as a lay substitution for the monastic practice of reciting the 150 psalms, I think it ill-advised and presumptuous in the extreme for the late pope to have "proposed" additional mysteries of his own invention. We now see where that attitude is taking us.
As regards faith and morals....
People with more-than-healthy egos frequently make reckless decisions..
right. and if there was ever an organization that was “reckless,” it was the church, right? all those snap decisions and all.
LOL. You read my mind on some of these. See post above.
(this is exactly why JPII of sainted memory shouldn't have added to the Mysteries. His intentions were good but he opened the door for a lot of hanky-panky. Not to mention that it threw my "days" off . . . )
If memory serves, I believe the Graduate Theological Union located at Berkeley combined the semenaries of a number of religions in a single site sometime in the nineteen sixties. All the semanaries were polluted by the activity of student activists and some Liberation theologists. It sounds like the same problems exist today.
A crystal-clear description of purpose of the “Relational Mysteries” was given in the online calendar of the New Spirit/MCC Church in Berkeley. The entry was for an event held on Sunday, May 31, 2009, and reads: “GTU doctoral student Eugene McMullan and Reverend Jim Mitulski will lead a two part class on "Praying the Queer Rosary," based on stories from the bible which depict Queer Families or Relationships. The class will include a brief history of the rosary, introduction to Catholic devotions, sharing of stories, and praying together.”
They have robbed us of the word gay, they have confiscated the image of a rainbow to represent their world and now they rewrite the prayers of the Rosary! This institution needs to be cleaned up or shut down.
And why is he missing in action?
This is a fasttrack to possession. They’re not going to have any idea what kinds of spirits they will be summoning with their Satanic meditations.
They’ll need to power-wash that place with holy water when they’re done.
I was thinking maybe the Political Mysteries would be more appropriate at Berkley:
1. The Miracle at ACORN
2. The Presentation in the United Nations
3. The Descent of Obama Upon Notre Dame
4. The Finding of a Right to Abortion in the Constitution
5. The Crowning of Michelle Queen of Heaven and Earth
Um...the decision I’m questioning was not an organizational one. That’s kind of the point.
I think they’re good in and of themselves, and I pray them. It does harm the symmetry and the connection to the Psalter, though.
And there lies the problem. Here in Kentucky in our parish newsletter I have been somewhat dismayed at the constant articles on climate change while so many Catholics have no idea of what the Gospels teaches on matters of faith. Last weekend my husband for the third time,in the past few months found communion on the floor. He addressed our Deacon about it because he is a good man and we trust him but what is truly needed is a good teaching on the fruit of the holy spirit-incarnation and Eucharist. Enough of the global warming tripe! God controls the weather and changing a light bulb is not going to have an effect on anything. But we have heard rumors of communists infiltrating the church for years now and I personally believe them. These heretics have been in the church since the beginning. After everything that Judas saw and heard he still did not want to listen to the truth, he wanted his way.
I do believe God has indeed showed great mercy and constraint!
Sure:
1) The Expulsion from Eden
2) The Flooding of the Wicked World.
3) The Nuking of Sodom and Gomorrah
4) The Ten Plagues of the Exodus
5) The Driving Out of the Moneychangers from the Temple.
All to be concluded with a meditation on the Zotting of Ananias and Sapphira.
;'}
It twists the Rosary...
Relational Mysteries:
Fidelity—Ruth’s pledge to Naomi (Ruth 1:16-18);
Grief—The parting of David and Jonathan (I Sam 20:35-42);
Intercession—Esther intercedes for her people (Est 4:9-5:2);
Restoration—the raising of Lazarus (John 11:38-44);
Discipleship—the two encounter Christ on the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-35).
...
Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.
....
How about the “Get behind me Satan” rebuke?
um...the Pope is the head of the Church on earth. You make a distinction between the head and the body? Notwithstanding, you are free to not say the liminous mysteries, I guess.
liminous > luminous.
they might just as well come out and call them what they are hinting at:
the Sodomous mysteries - the “relations” they refer to are their imagined lustful homoesxualist orgies between biblical figures
only worshippers of satan pray such things
I agree — totally sick.
May the Lord have mercy on them.
I will offer my most earnest prayers on his behalf. He has an Augean Stable of neglect to clean up. I hope he has some good help that he can rely on to back him up.
There is a homosexual Stations of the Cross that is the most blasphemous thing I have ever laid eyes on. And when I was a hippie back in the old days I saw a lot of blasphemous stuff.
Wish I hadn't seen it.
The First Angry Mystery:
The Second Angry Mystery:
The Third Angry Mystery:
The Fourth Angry Mystery:
The Fifth Angry Mystery:
OK, that’s downright inspirational.
protestors included Rev. Dr. Rebecca Parker, president of the Starr King (Unitarian Universalist) School of Ministry
Obviously thise individual, a non-Catholic, does not believe in religious freedom. Since when is it appropriate in a free society to picket practitioners of other religions. Shame on the Uni-Unis.
I have always enjoyed the little booklets (and later, the websites) with the Mysteries as depicted by artists.
We really ought to get together a definitive version with the best paintings we can find (I went with the woodcut from the Passover Haggadah simply because that's just about the only way to get all ten plagues in one picture! I would use the version from Arthur Szyk's Haggadah, in my opinion the most beautiful Haggadah ever produced, but it's not on line.)
This is his illustration for the "Had Gadya" - the cumulative song about the goat, one little goat that the father bought for two zuzim. And yes, the resemblance of Goliath to Goering is quite intentional - Szyk was a Polish Jew who illustrated his Haggadah during the 30s.
Wow. You said it. Just when you think you heard it all - 'Relational' mysteries. Good grief.
I tend to think Pope JPII drew up those mysteries directly to combat other such 'rosaries' that had popped up. Pope John Paul's focus our attention on the Eucharist, not other drivel. I'm not sure if others Catholics had, but I had seen other proposed mysteries, people just making up their own rosary 'devotions', for use in prayer groups, etc. His proposed mysteries seemed a direct comment meant for those who were already taking us astray. (I will look for links, I have meetings later, so it may take a bit.) In my own diocese, especially mid to late 90s just before and as internet use became popular, folks rabidly opposed to the Rosary (Catholics, mind you) had all but stopped the 'old notion' of the rosary for several years, coming up with so-called 'better' devotions meant for 'our time', including variations on the rosary.
Yes, I can see where Pope John Paul's new mysteries and Fatima don't seemingly agree. I also see where our Pope made a strong statement - if we need any new mysteries, let these be the mysteries.
You had it right until you said “Luminous”.
JPII was a wacko. He did nothing right according to tradition & was just a person for the people, not a person who held anything traditional. St. Paul said hold fast to tradition....even w/o St. Paul saying that it is just common sense to not change things of importance that God, Himself, started. How proud & stupid are we for changing the mass?!?!
Pope St Pius V & X had it right. They were against all this modernism. Now it’s not even a church, it’s a “feel good” festival. Well, church should make you feel good if you go.
Church & this world are not about sacrifice anymore. What is the traditional, old school mass all about....it is about asking God forgiveness of our sins, & making sacrifice to Him. The mass is not about your sins being automatically forgiven because our Lord died on the cross....He still gave us free will to do good or evil. We can still go to hell. This is a test for us on earth right now, & everybody is being presumptuous & thinking we are all going to heaven......that we are all saved......this is not true.
I wish it were that simple, believe me.....but it’s not.
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