Posted on 08/13/2009 8:07:10 PM PDT by boromeo
Once again, the Catholic world has been rocked by yet more allegations of sexual impropriety by Legionnaires of Christ founder, the late Fr. Marcial Maciel. It seems the now-disgraced founder-cum-pervert fathered more children than previously suspected; the latest claimants to his paternity purport to have evidence that the late Pope John Paul II knew of Maciel's sexual dilettantes, and turned a blind eye to them. (If true, it would confirm the prior journalistic scholarship of author Jason Berry.)
The allegations highlight what for all too many Catholics is the elephant-in-the-room when discussing the ills which beset the modern Church: the extent to which the late Pope John Paul II was an enabler of these perversions, from sexual and liturgical abuse to theological dissent and the scandal of Catholic politicians who support the most immoral of social policies with the tacit or express blessings of their Church.
One does not need to deny or disparage the personal sanctity, thoughtful conservatism, or religious orthodoxy of the late Pontiff in order to acknowledge that his Pontificate, by all accounts, was a glorious failure. Yes, he aided in the fall of Eastern European Communism, but the Pope of Rome is not primarily a mover and shaker of state politics, but a Christian pastor whose mission it is to save souls, convert the lost, and govern his church in such a way that it resembles, as best as possible, the city on a hill, the light of the world whose radiance cannot be hid under a bushel-basket.
In terms of raw statistics, the Catholic Church shrank under the late Pope. Catholics comprised 18 percent of the world's population in 1978, the year Karol Wojtyla assumed the Chair of St Peter. At his death Catholics comprised 17 percent.
It'd be foolish, of course, to let such numbers stand alone as leading Catholic indicators, but in terms of the quality of world Catholicism the evidence, while not as quantifiable, is no less apparent or tangible. If one is looking for the fruits of the Wojtylian pontificate, several studies of the modern church paint a representative picture: Goodbye, Good Men: How Liberals Brought Corruption into the Catholic Church, Sacrilege: Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church, Amchurch Comes Out: The U.S. Bishops, Pedophile Scandals and the Homosexual Agenda, The Rite of Sodomy: Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church, Our Fathers: The Secret Life of the Catholic Church in an Age of Scandal, Vows of Silence: The Abuse of Power in the Papacy of John Paul II, and the pioneering work of Dr. Richard Sipe and Roman Catholic Faithful. These sources approach their subject matter from very varied ideological backgrounds, but they all paint a very bleak, but well-documented, picture of the prior pontificate.
Though Catholics and others are loathe to admit it of an otherwise beloved Pope, John Paul II oversaw a church which deteriorated in both its inner and outer life. His callous indifference toward the victims of priestly sexual abuse in refusing to meet personally with a single one of them, and his stubborn refusal to compel the resignation from office of any of the bishops who aided, abetted, and covered-up the abuse, are testamentary to his utter failure: not as a Catholic or a theologian, but as a Pope.
And this is precisely why he should not be canonized. For in the Catholic (and popular) understanding, canonization is not simply a technical decree indicating one's everlasting abode in Paradise; it is, in addition, the Church's solemn endorsement of a Christian's heroic virtue. The question the Catholic Church must ask herself is: Was John Paul II a model of "heroic" papal virtue?
Contrary to leftist media reportage, the late Pope was not an authoritarian despot, bent on enforcing Catholic orthodoxy on an unwilling church. Quite the contrary: theological liberals and dissenters flourished in all of the Church's structures, from lay politics and Catholic universities, to the ranks of priests and bishops. Not a single pro-abortion Catholic politician has been excommunicated from the church; only a handful of openly heretical priests were asked to stop teaching theology, but were otherwise permitted to exercise their priestly ministry unhindered. The Church in Austria openly dissents from orthodox Catholicism with papal impunity. Fr. Richard McBrien, Sr. Joan Chittiser, Roger Cardinal Mahoney of Los Angeles, Hans Kung, Charles Curran, Notre Dame University, dissenters galore: the overwhelming majority of prominent far-leftist, theologically modernist Catholic organizations, speakers, and theologians are Catholics in good standing with their church, and are frequently given an official platform at church-sponsored institutions and events. To give just two more examples, several Catholic parishes and universities flaunt themselves as "gay-friendly" in a directory published by the Conference of Catholic Lesbians. These speakers and institutions are in just as good standing with the Church as so-called "orthodox" Catholic pundits and writers.
After John Paul II, the Catholic Church is virtually indistinguishable from the Anglican Communion. Everyone has their seat at the table, liberal and conservative, high church and low. The "official" teaching of the Church may lean toward religious conservatism, but this is just one option out of many which a loyal Catholic may avail himself of and remain in good standing with his Church.
The late Pope's governance of his church was laissez-faire, he personally adhering to conservative Catholic orthodoxy but not wishing to impose such on Catholic clergy or institutions. Ironically, the Papacy has been rather critical of governments who take such approaches to their economies; should it be the model for a church which regards itself as the one true religion?
The canonization of Pope John Paul II is an issue which concerns not only Catholics, but all traditionalist conservatives. For better or for worse (depending on one's religious outlook), the Catholic Church is the largest religious institution on the planet, and historically regarded as a fairly conservative one. The Washington Times recently named Pope Benedict the de facto leader of world conservatism. Just as conservatives do not wish to see their foundational principles redefined by the nomination and election of conservatives-in-name-only, so the canonization of the late Pope would represent (among other things) his church's influential imprimatur on a model of Christian pastorship that has eroded the foundational conservative principles of one of the world's oldest and most venerable conservative institutions.
As noted earlier, the Papacy is the third-rail of orthodox Catholic discourse. The respect Catholics have for the Papal institution renders the living or recent claimants of that seat virtually impervious to criticism, as if such critique automatically rendered one implacably uncharitable or schismatic. When civil society regains its conservative bearings, history will not be kind to what any unbiased observer must regard as the gross pastoral negligence of the 21st century's first Pope; if Catholics want to come out of the present cultural quagmire with their intellectual integrity intact, they must fearlessly shed the light of truth on that Pontiff's pastorship, and be sure to end up on the right side of history's verdict.
Also, Pope John Paul II said that we were living in the "Culture of Death." Look how right he was because now the USA wants to put old people to death as well as unborn babies.
Don't go mortgaging that Pulitzer Prize money just yet.
and Rome still remains silent as the majority of Catholics do here in the States. Look at the travesty and fraud that was perpetrated on the catholic faithful at Notre Dame when that Fraud from the WH was given an honorary degree and lauded and who is clearly anti-life, now we are finding out the Fraud has no respect for end of life either.
Pope John Paul II made many mistakes, but did those mistakes betray a lack of personal holiness?
NO.
This will not stand in the way of his canonization.
>> Look at the travesty and fraud that was perpetrated on the catholic faithful at Notre Dame when that Fraud from the WH was given an honorary degree and lauded and who is clearly anti-life, now we are finding out the Fraud has no respect for end of life either.<<
Rome was not silent. The Vatican condemned it. The Bishops condemned it, the Priest in charge of Notre Dame was fired.
Don’t diss the Pope.
Don’t diss the Pope.
Don’t diss the Pope.
I will be VERY dissappointed if they make him a Saint
I thought that was something entirely on a different level
Is it just a popularity contest?
Is that true? I did not know that. If so, that is awesome. That priest was a weasel.
I don’t know whether JPII should be a saint or not. I know there is a process, and there are many people more conversant with the facts who can come up with a better decision than I could. This article has many flaws.
An indirect allegation that the Pope knew about Fr. Maciel and did nothing. This was the lead off theme of the article. Sorry, need some evidence. Those allegations are just that.
The math is weak. 18% market share in 1978, 17% at his death. I guess mkt share is a requirement to be a saint. Who knew. St. Thomas More lost the King of England and therefore a kingdom. Revoke his sainthood. The world population of the world is 20% higher than 1978. 17% of todays population is tens of millions of souls more than 18% in 1978. The statisticians could claim he was pope during the alltime record for increased entrance to heaven. Stats can be whatever you want them to be.
Lots of other points I could dispute, but this is not a very congently written article. Boring.
Will you be leaving the Catholic Church if John Paul II IS canonized?
We would have seen tons of articles about Father Jenkins getting fired if that were true.
Doubting it right now until I see more corroboration.
The holiness of JPII and his suffering and life-long and faithful dedication to his calling should not be diminished by the failures of his closest advisors. JPII was a traveling evangelist and with Reagan had the courage to collapse the foundation of an evil empire.
Yet the article contains a certain truth of how pedophile priests, dissent, and multiculturalism were all tolerated if not advanced. This was not to confirm these dissident and unorthodox slices of the Church but rather in the belief, albeit naive, that they were correctable by admonitions. In retrospect, this was a mistake.
On the first anniversary of 9/11, Cardinal Roger Mahony had an ecumenical service in his Los Angeles Cathedral that included Buddhist monks; Hindu swamis; and protestant ministers, in a service where the name of Jesus Christ was never uttered. Rather than be subject to automatic removal, he was allowed to remain. All of this is still the residue of a Church reeling from Vatican II reforms. Blaming all this on JPII is just too much.
It pains me to see such criticism of a man I loved dearly, but there is some truth in it.
JPII was a great and holy man.
He was a weak administrator.
LOL, V Gene, LOL
Everything in threes
well, i sure do keep up on current events and maybe i just missed the boat on this one but I know up to the bitter end before that Fraud took the stage @ Notre Dame there wasn’t a peep outta’ Rome and even if they did condemn it, that Fraud was not only still allowed to speak but receive an honorary degree.
You asked if it is just a popularity contest...
The answer is a resounding YES!!! This “church” is all about that. Pathetic.
Yes, the Catholic Church is full of sinners. It has always been so. Christ chose to live with them, teach them, love them, pray for them, and save them— even to his dying breath. He chose Peter, full of flaws, to lead and protect His Church.
Remember he promised the apostles that the wheat and the chaff would grow together until the final judgment.
The Catholic Church will be healthier when all the kooks ordained in the 60s are gone. The young men answering the call today are very traditional. JPII certainly had a few flaws, but he also did many wonderful things. There is a long and complicated process to be declared a saint. If he meets the criteria, he’ll be canonized. The Holy Spirit still guides the Church as Christ promised.
To all those people so eagerly calling him John Paul the Great—the title “The Great” ENCOMPASSES sainthood. It is grossly inappropriate. I have to doubt the judgment of any people running around actually starting high schools and colleges called “John Paul the Great.”
His preaching and his writings will serve the Church well for a long time. But his governance of the Church—not so much.
There’s Maciel. And it was not necessary to know about Maciel’s personal corruption, either. The CONSTITUTIONS of the Legion are the product of a demented megalomaniac, and JPII approved them.
Then there’s Weakland. And JPII KNEW what a scumbag Weakland was. In his tell-all book, Weakland complains about how they used to scold him in Rome, confronting him with heaps of complaints from Milwaukee.
There’s The Scandal. JPII had seen too many priests smeared by the Communists. He seemed to have a complete mental block on the subject.
Most of the bishops in New York, in California, etc., etc.
JPII was WEAK and RIGID at the same time: Weak in exercising his legitimate authority over the bishops, and rigidly unable to hear the truth if it came from the wrong people.
He believed bald-faced lies told to him by Cardinal O’Connor (a fraud) and other Cardinals, because he believed ANYTHING, if a Cardinal said it to his face. (I have this second-hand from a Cardinal.)
So how long have you been a Catholic?
I’m sorry. He “stepped down”
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2003_01_06/2003_05_07_WNDU_NotreDame.htm
I agree with you fully on JPII
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2003_01_06/2003_05_07_WNDU_NotreDame.htm
He was the one that arranged it.
I’m not the biggest fan of JPII.
But sainthood as far as I know only concerns one thing. Is the person in question enjoying eternal life with the Lord? If the answer to that is yes, then he/she is a saint, doesn’t matter what failings they may have had administratively.
I have no trouble believing JPII is in heaven, even though I am critical of his pontificate and I’m not all that crazy about “the Great” either.
JPII's sanctity will be examined and assessed in exactly the same manner as any other candidate whose cause is put forward. His life will be investigated, virtue examined and claims of miracles will be studied. All the naysaying in the world won't change that. If he checks all the boxes, he'll be canonized. If he doesn't, then he won't be canonized.
The argument that he failed to excommunicate or suspend [insert name of heretic of choice] will not be a significant factor in the process. The present Holy Father is following a similar path. There will be no wholesale suspensions, excommunications or interdicts. Both this Pope and the previous one prefer to exhort, preach and lead by example. Remember the Gospel story of the weeds growing among the wheat. The natural impulse is to go and root out the weeds pronto but Jesus says "no". Let them both grow together and at harvest we'll separate the trash from the good stuff.
The renewal of the Church will not be accomplished with the stroke of a pen. This crisis was a long time in the making and it will be an equally prolonged solution. It will occur gradually with the flushing of the homosexuals from the seminaries and the influx of good, holy young men to the priesthood which, it must be said, JPII has played a major part in stimulating.
John Paul II was not a conservative.
the Priest in charge of Notre Dame was fired.
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Someone needs to tell Notre Dame that this is true, as their website, and not a single google link, support your contention that Jenkins was fired.
Methinks you are mistaken.
You know, I think you are correct. I was going off this...
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2003_01_06/2003_05_07_WNDU_NotreDame.htm
And in researching I think I was confused. Or wishful thinking!
However, you can't really blame the Church for Jenkins. As president of ND, he answers to a lay board of trustees. They'd have to fire him. The only way the Church could force the issue would be for the Holy Cross fathers to remove him from the order (since I think the university's bylaws require the president to be a Holy Cross priest).
The deeper problem is that a "Catholic university" shouldn't be answering to a lay board of trustees, some of whose members aren't even Catholics, much less faithful Catholics.
Ignorance is a commodity in abundant supply on your double helix.
No, otherwise only canonized saints would be in heaven. Sainthood means a life of heroic virtue that is set forth for us to imitate. In the case of John Paul II, I am not convinced, and neither is the author of the article.
The article is wrong on one score: it seems to be written from the assumption that the Pope is like an army commander, ordering the Church about. The Church is build on subsidiarity, not a strict hierarchy.
I don't think that follows logically. Of course I know that others besides canonized saints are in heaven...yet only those who have been canonized *are certainly* in heaven, we have the Church's assurance on that.
St. Pius X turned more than a thousand years of Roman tradition on its head and butchered the breviary (in my opinion). Personally, I don't think he had any right to do that. He was canonized nonetheless...because canonization has little to do with liturgical praxis or administration and everything to do with personal (heroic, as you said) holiness.
Yes, but that certainty comes from heroic virtues. I agree that administrative success is not a necessary condition, but for a Pope, it seems to matter quite a bit.
I was Catholic for my entire life until recently. One could say that it’s possible to grow out of it, move past it and find that the real truth lies outside of the Vatican.
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