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Did Jesus Reveal to us the name of the Anti-Christ?

Posted on 07/28/2009 9:36:23 PM PDT by Blogger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bibleprophecy; conspiracytheories; crackpots; eschatology; holybible; jesus; lgfhatesamerica; obama; satan; scriptures; tinfoilhat
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To: Blogger
Does he look like this?


21 posted on 07/28/2009 10:06:46 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Aria

I agree. The big A.C. will have a cult of personality similar to the president’s, only much larger and more fanatical; however, he won’t be a dork, as our president manifestly is.

President Obama is a lot of things, but he’s not the Enemy incarnate, and I doubt he’s even evil at heart. I’m sure he thinks he’s doing right. Sadly, our president is just the latest tool of the Powers that the Enemy is using in his latest attempt to immanentize the eschaton.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 10:08:26 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Texan. Monarchist. Any questions?)
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To: bdeaner

Revelation 13:18


23 posted on 07/28/2009 10:08:32 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: bdeaner
The anti-Christ refers to the body of the anti-Christ composed of those followers of Christ who turn their back on him and no longer walk with him.
There are antiChrists and there is THE AntiChrist. The latter is referred to with the pronoun he. He is spoken of as committing specific actions in Daniel, Revelation, 1 Thessalonians, etc., He is not an allegory for unbelievers. He is a person.
24 posted on 07/28/2009 10:11:40 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: bdeaner

Do you have a chapter and verse where Jesus tells us to scrutizine whether world leaders are the anti-Christ?

No, but we have Christ's words relative to the authority of government, and we have Paul's words as well. Plus, Paul said nothing about the most vile government in his history, that of Nero, and, in fact, claimed his citizenship in that government as his shield and protection.

Besides, so much of end time "prophecy" is totally America-centric, as if Biblical prophecy is about the U.S.

25 posted on 07/28/2009 10:13:37 PM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: jonrick46

Ugh. Pictures aren’t necessary. Though I will say this, why do they have him dressed like a Sikh? I know that prophecy about the one in the blue turban, but Obama’s root religion is Muslim.


26 posted on 07/28/2009 10:15:07 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Compare to Luke 10:18

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 10:16:02 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 189 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Blogger

I heard this from a Biblical scholar before the election. I believed him then, I believe it more now.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 10:16:52 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: norge

Rome was the strongest empire at the time of Jesus and much of prophecy at that time was about Rome, the same was true for Babylon and Egypt. It would make sense that the strongest empire during the end times would be in prophecy, that could either be the US or the EU. Along with Gog and Magog which is probably Iran and Russia.


29 posted on 07/28/2009 10:18:40 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: mnehring

Yeah. It’s an old tradition.


30 posted on 07/28/2009 10:21:57 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 189 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Blogger
Revelations 13:18 is John speaking there, not Jesus. Also, the verse doesn't say to watch anything or for anyone. As I suggested above, it very likely references Gospel of John 6:66 -- the anti-Christ being those who reject Christ by refusing to eat his body (e.g., refusing the Real Presence in the Eucharist).

But Jesus does have something to say on this topic, in Mark 13:
Here he tells us to watch not for the anti-Christ, but for the coming of the Lord, our Messiah. But no one, not even the angels, will know when He is coming -- which obviously means the Second Coming cannot be predicted in advance. "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven..."; "ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockrowing, or in the morning."

What are we to do? Pray, imitate Christ, keep our eye on Him, not knowing when He will come, which therefore could be anytime. Maybe even in the next heartbeat. We never know.
31 posted on 07/28/2009 10:22:07 PM PDT by bdeaner
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To: null and void

Luke 10 alludes to Isaiah 14:12ff, so I don’t think his summation is as much of a stretch as some would make it. Jesus would not have spoken it in Greek even if it were written in Greek. He was speaking to a Hebrew audience and Hebrew was the language that He likely used or possibly Aramaic. When referring to Scripture, He likely used Hebrew (No NIV Translation given the sacredness of Jewish Scriptures).

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Jesus_Hebrew/jesus_hebrew.html


32 posted on 07/28/2009 10:24:26 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Actually, the first 3.5 years commence with the peace treaty between Israel and the Arab world, negotiated by the Anti-Christ.

Why did this flap-eared bonehead, as one of his first overseas speeches as president, go to the Arab lands and declare "America does not consider herself to be a Christian nation, nor has she ever been."

He then went on to praise Muslims (bascially, lifting up Muhammed and exalting Islam...) when Christianity (his alleged faith) teaches that Muhammed was a false prophet and a deceiver?

I wouldn't be at all surprised. He sure ain't right, and alot of folks don't seem to notice. Just waltzes in here, drops a nuke on the Constitution, and nobody really even says "Boo!"

Hmmmm.... food for thought.

;-/

33 posted on 07/28/2009 10:25:37 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: Blogger

The Nations are now entering into an opened scroll ,

Into things they do not know !

Behold the new forget the old ,

Look to the things not yet fullfilled that have been fortold ,

Forget your past and come to me ,

Come under My wings do not flee ,

For soon your DaySpring shall arrive !

Prepare your hearts for me , Come Abide !

Isaiah 46:9-13
9 Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me.
10 I make known the end from the beginning,
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say: My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please.

11 From the east I summon a bird of prey;
from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose.
What I have said, that will I bring about;
what I have planned, that will I do.

12 Listen to me, you stubborn-hearted,
you who are far from righteousness.

13 I am bringing my righteousness near,
it is not far away;
and my salvation will not be delayed.
I will grant salvation to Zion,
my splendor to Israel.

Obadiah 15

“The day of the LORD is near
for all nations.
As you have done, it will be done to you;
your deeds will return upon your own head.

Prophecy told is about to unfold ,
And mix the new with the old ,

A city forgotten old not new ,

Left in ruins , forsaken as I said I would do ,

Am I speaking in riddles or just telling what has already been told ?!

Things spoken in the past about to unfold !

A nation rejected and now soon removed .

A coming time unspooled ~ ~ ~ ~

Through an opening of a scroll !

My all seeing eyes , all seven told !

My Manifold Wisdom , My perfect WILL ,

Every Jot and Tittle from My Quill ,

Releasing , Creating all that shall be !

My Everlasting Majesty ! ! !

So Heed these Last Warnings and Come to your GOD !

For I AM about to reach out My Septor and touch down My ROD !

And all that is broken will be plain to see ,

But what comes together will be saved through its Unity !!!

So see My Bride’s time is coming do !

And Behold My Bride I AM Coming for you !

Jeremiah 4:5

Disaster From the North
5 “Announce in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem and say:
‘Sound the trumpet throughout the land!’
Cry aloud and say:
‘Gather together!
Let us flee to the fortified cities!’

Isaiah 17
An Oracle Against Damascus
1 An oracle concerning Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.

2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.

3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the LORD Almighty.

4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.

5 It will be as when a reaper gathers the standing grain
and harvests the grain with his arm—
as when a man gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.

6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the LORD, the God of Israel.

7 In that day men will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.

8 They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles [a]
and the incense altars their fingers have made.

9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.

10 You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,

11 though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.

12 Oh, the raging of many nations—
they rage like the raging sea!
Oh, the uproar of the peoples—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!

13 Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.

14 In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.

Damascus ! Oh Damascus !

How I once loved you so ,

But now all you bring me is woe ,

For you have lost your love for me ,

and now scorn is all I see ,

So hasten not to cut me down ,

For now I AM about to remove your crown ,

For ages you once worshiped me ,

But now only bitterness and anger I see ,

So watch now oh ! Earth as I send fire down ,

And remove this thorn and take their crown .

Lamentations 4:5

Those who once ate delicacies
are destitute in the streets.
Those nurtured in purple
now lie on ash heaps.

“...For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four,
I will not turn away the punishment thereof...” Amos 1:3

4 But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad.I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, 5 and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD.

“The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap ... And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.” Isaiah 17:1,14

“Damascus is waxed feeble, and turneth herself to flee, and fear hath seized on her: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail. How is the city of praise not left, the city of my joy!” Jeremiah 49:24-25


34 posted on 07/28/2009 10:27:45 PM PDT by Jedediah
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To: B-Chan

I do realize the numbers in the Gospel of John, 6:66, were added later, and are not in the original manuscript. But if John’s Revelation really is a prediction — a vision of what the future holds, as many take Revelation to be — then that future would include the eventual association of the Number of the Beast, 666, with the Gospel of John, Chapter 6, Verse 66. At least this interpretation makes more sense than accusing every new world leader of being the anti-Christ and finding some way to link the claim to Scripture, which seems to be a tradition...


35 posted on 07/28/2009 10:27:47 PM PDT by bdeaner
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To: jonrick46
I always think of Obama when I see Xerxes in the film, "300."


36 posted on 07/28/2009 10:31:09 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Blogger

If THE anti-Christ is a person, I would think Nietzsche a better fit for the bill than Obama.


37 posted on 07/28/2009 10:31:47 PM PDT by bdeaner
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To: bdeaner

With all due respect: trying to “name” the Antichrist is stupid, anyway. Who the hell cares who he is? Christians should quit wasting time looking for the Antichrist and spend more time looking at the Christ. As long as we keep our eyes on Him, the identity and actions of his pathetic fake counterpart are irrelevant.


38 posted on 07/28/2009 10:36:28 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Texan. Monarchist. Any questions?)
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To: bdeaner

Oh, come on! You’re smarter than that. Christ did not take prophecy as allegory. Neither should we. The antichrist is referred to multiple times as a him. There are also antichrists in the world. Still, they do not negate the one.

As to John’s writing, he said so under the inspiration of Christ in a vision from Christ.

More from John:
1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Paul, under the authority of Christ said:
2 Thessalonians 2:2-4

And Jesus referred to the image of the Antichrist here
Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
and
Here
Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That we are to read and understand this is also part of the commands of the Christ, though Mark and Matthew likely wrote the parenthetical note.


39 posted on 07/28/2009 10:36:46 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: B-Chan

Who says we aren’t keeping our eyes on Christ? That said, if God didn’t want us to concern ourselves with him at all, why write it in Scripture? Christ cares who he is and His children should care for what Christ cares for. It is exactly HELL that wants people not to care.


40 posted on 07/28/2009 10:38:27 PM PDT by Blogger
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