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1 posted on 07/03/2009 4:44:15 PM PDT by NYer
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It seems Cardinal Bernardin made a lasting impression on Obama.


2 posted on 07/03/2009 4:45:02 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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I am tired of reading and seeing all the “news” every time 0bama breaks wind. He is more overexposed than Michael Jackson now. At least Michael Jackson had some hits.


3 posted on 07/03/2009 4:48:14 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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No mas!!!


4 posted on 07/03/2009 4:51:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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No mas!!!


5 posted on 07/03/2009 4:51:59 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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Is this like when Hitler tried to ally himself with the Army Generals to soothe their fears over the Brownshirts?


7 posted on 07/03/2009 5:00:36 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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What drivel. He is not to be trusted.


8 posted on 07/03/2009 5:04:39 PM PDT by mom-7
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“Part of why establishing a relationship with the bishops is important to me is because I have very fond memories of Cardinal Bernardin, who was in Chicago when I first arrived to be a community organizer - funded in part by the Campaign for Human Development - and working with Catholic parishes on the south side of Chicago,” the president added. “And so I know the potention that the bishops have to speak out forcefully on issues of social justice. ...There are going to continue to be areas where we have profound agreements and there are going to be some areas where we disagree. That’s healthy.”

Of course Cardinal Bernardin was a favorite. He was wedded to his Seamless Garment idea that discounted abortion as just another social justice issue, and gave Democrats a pass on their support of it. Bernardin was one of those looking for 'common ground', and willing to let unborn children continue to die in order not to make the Democrats uncomfortable.

9 posted on 07/03/2009 7:00:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Divide and conquer:
“…there have been a number of bishops who have been extremely generous and supportive even if they don’t agree with me on every issue. So in that sense the American bishops represent a cross-section of opinion just like other groups do.”

* On a side note, and not meant to offend. I heard a couple callers identify themselves as Christians on the local radio station this week. For the sake of expedience I’ll say, from their sentiment they were planning to attend a Pity Party, as opposed to say a Tea Party. I put it that way to draw a contrast and not to advocate a Tea Party (though I otherwise would). The point being the observation: by its own members the church over the years is being portrayed more and more a place to sulk, less and less the message to “go forth and do the lords work.” Isn’t that how the sermon ends? Isn’t that the message? Again, just an observation.


10 posted on 07/03/2009 9:34:16 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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The American bishops have a profound influence in their communities, in the church, and beyond,” he continued. “What I will say is that although there have been criticisms leveled at me from some of the bishops, there have been a number of bishops who have been extremely generous and supportive even if they don’t agree with me on every issue. So in that sense the American bishops represent a cross-section of opinion just like other groups do.”

Bambi's whole tactic is to make everything seem personal and just a matter of opinion. The Church has doctrine and teachings, and it is the responsibility of the bishops to be the teachers of their flocks and to teach only the truth. It's not a matter of whether they "agree or disagree" with OBAMA, who as usual puts himself first.

But this concept is beyond him. In fact, judging by his rambling, poorly expressed answers (all of which focus on himself), I'd say a lot of things are beyond him.

11 posted on 07/04/2009 2:51:10 AM PDT by livius
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A suggestion.

Maybe you could post the strategies of Gramsci and Alinsky that followed on infiltration and the destruction of the Catholic Church from within (and all churches), as in trading all truth for the ‘social gospel’. Ex. Big families, they couldn’t say birth control or abortion, but it should be a personal choice... you know, like the apple and Eve, regardless of scripture and those ‘horrid’ (according to them), dogmas. In other words, they knew more than the Lord in telling you how you should ‘help’ the people (obviously history has no place here).

Deeds not creeds, and not God’s will be done, your small g god will be done; At the same time they ask that the church not ‘offend’ by preaching the truth (after all we’re all God’s children and he wouldn’t judge but accept anything).

This is why he can find homosexuality in the scriptures (or as they say, nothing against it, which is a lie), re: ‘social gospel’ and leaps over to scripture is ridiculous and outdated as in stoning in the same breath... yet can’t tell you a child is a human being.

He is anti-Christ.

He wrote himself the reasons for joining a church period... it wasn’t to come to Jesus, but they didn’t trust him. Like his forerunners, it was to infiltrate, use and separate while watering down and twisting the gospel.

Also, as when he ‘first said it way back’, his examples say it all.

The church must be purged of socialists. No one focused on his chaos and separation within churches from the beginning of the election, even using the place he called his ‘church’ to do it... a means to an end.

Meanwhile you had the Rockefellers and others pushing millions to churches, seminaries, colleges, church aid agencies as a hook in the jaw to lay down those ‘dogmas’ and accept a one world view.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by AliVeritas ( Pray, Pray, Pray)
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